*******Official 2023 Dallas Cowboys Season Thread*******

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FTAG 2000 said:

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Based on Jerry's post game comments and demeanor yesterday, I'd put the chances of McCarthy being fired at 60% or so. I think he's out.

I'm hoping Jerry recognizes that he absolutely needs to swing for the fences on this next hire and not try to promote Quinn or some other silly move that just spins the mediocrity wheels of the organization.

Jerry needs a Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells type brazen hire. To me, that guy is Harbaugh. Make the move for him. Brings instant toughness, brings instant respect in the locker room, has had NFL success, and has left every organization he's been with better than it was before. That's basically Bill Parcells from 15 years ago.



Jerry doesn't really care. He wants a coach that will kiss the ring.

And as long as cowboys fans continue to fill up his palace in Arlington what incentive does he have?

He spends more time working on development projects up in frisco and prosper than he does the team.


I've been hard on Jerry but I don't agree he doesn't care. I also didn't agree that Jimbo didn't care either. These guys care, they are just too stubborn to ever see past themselves.

I think Jerry more than anyone wants to prove he can win a title without Jimmy and get that monkey off his back.

I do agree with you though that the Jones family spends way too much time with side projects and making things look fancy over real substance.

My real frustration here is that I do not believe Stephen Jones is any better. By most accounts, he's got almost as much say and power in that organization as his dad has and nothing seems to change. It's the same old way of doing business and fielding a team. They badly need a fresh face in there to tell em how it is and how it should be done rather than hire a guy who THEY tell how it should be to. Because they don't know shi* about shi* it seems.
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Dak needs to go. Trade him!

He was the reason for the loss last year against SF. He and the D together lost this game against GB.

He's a choker.
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FTAG 2000 said:

Orlando Ayala Cant Read said:

Based on Jerry's post game comments and demeanor yesterday, I'd put the chances of McCarthy being fired at 60% or so. I think he's out.

I'm hoping Jerry recognizes that he absolutely needs to swing for the fences on this next hire and not try to promote Quinn or some other silly move that just spins the mediocrity wheels of the organization.

Jerry needs a Jimmy Johnson or Bill Parcells type brazen hire. To me, that guy is Harbaugh. Make the move for him. Brings instant toughness, brings instant respect in the locker room, has had NFL success, and has left every organization he's been with better than it was before. That's basically Bill Parcells from 15 years ago.



Jerry doesn't really care. He wants a coach that will kiss the ring.

And as long as cowboys fans continue to fill up his palace in Arlington what incentive does he have?

He spends more time working on development projects up in frisco and prosper than he does the team.


Caring is not the problem. Caring and laughably believing someone will succeed in his family dictatorship is the problem. Lots of CEOs and company owners care, but can't get out of their own way. He's that textbook narcissist CEO who does more damage than good.
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If it wasn't a blow-out and a close loss he'd probably be back but after that embarrassment on national TV no way.
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Woods Ag said:

I don't even want to turn on a sports talk show. I'm sure the Cowboys are the getting laughed at on every platform/show this morning.


They've been getting laughed at for going on 30 years. Today is just another day.
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So, Caleb Williams has come out saying he will not play for Chicago. Would the Bears give you the #1 pick for Parsons and our #1 this year?
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Macarthur said:

So, Caleb Williams has come out saying he will not play for Chicago. Would the Bears give you the #1 pick for Parsons and our #1 this year?
I'm not opposed to taking a QB, I am opposed to taking Caleb Williams. He wasn't that great this year and doesn't seem like a leader/team player at all
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Fair enough. I haven't studied this group of QBs. You like maye?
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Caleb Williams is too good a prospect to pass up. I don't think there's anyway Chicago budges off of #1.
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FightinFarrier18 said:

Macarthur said:

So, Caleb Williams has come out saying he will not play for Chicago. Would the Bears give you the #1 pick for Parsons and our #1 this year?
I'm not opposed to taking a WB, I am opposed to taking Caleb Williams. He wasn't that great this year and doesn't seem like a leader/team player at all
I think Daniels would be available still without having to trade. That might be a solid option
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Tksymm7 said:

Caleb Williams is too good a prospect to pass up. I don't think there's anyway Chicago budges off of #1.
his folks have come out and said he won't play for Chicago.
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I think the lure (and money) of being drafted 1 overall is something he won't pass up.
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Oh, I agree he will be first but will that be Chicago?
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Fair.
Woods Ag
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It definitely turns me off of Caleb Williams that he's dictating who and where he will and won't play.

I am sitting out college football QB projecting this year after I swore up and down that CJ Stroud was a bust and completely ate crow on that.

Drake Maye, Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels and further down the list Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy.

The first 3, as of today, are expected to go 1, 2, 3. Maybe JJ McCarthy is the dude. He definitely seems to have some poise, but I don't have an opinion. Just get us 1 of those, whichever we feel like can translate to the NFL.
Macarthur
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John Elway went down that road. I don't necessarily think that means Williams is a bad guy.
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Yeah, but today I have to accept they were right and I was duped again.
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So did Eli.. what do I know. If I was a super stud and Brandon Staley, Ron Rivera, the Jets or any other perennial loser coaching a historically bad ownership franchise maybe I would do the same. You aren't ruining my career because you're inept.

I didn't watch him at all. Not 1 game, but every podcast I listen to raves that he's the most talented person they've ever seen.
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I'd consider a look at Penix because he's older and seems like he can make NFL throws
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
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All I do is Nguyen said:

I'd consider a look at Penix because he's older and seems like he can make NFL throws


Penix would be an interesting look along with a new backfield.
Tksymm7
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Josh Allen makes playing in that weather look normal lol.
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The Bills knew what they were doing when they drafted a guy from Wyoming
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Glad to know it isn't just Dallas that gets absolutely SCREWED by the refs during reviews.

How on earth do NFL referees say that Buffalo did NOT recover that fumble in bounds after the review... when earlier in the season they said SF definitely DID recover that ball against us when the SF player had barely touched the ball as he was sliding out of bounds.

Sheesh!
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jr15aggie said:

Glad to know it isn't just Dallas that gets absolutely SCREWED by the refs during reviews.

How on earth do NFL referees say that Buffalo did NOT recover that fumble in bounds after the review... when earlier in the season they said SF definitely DID recover that ball against us when the SF player had barely touched the ball as he was sliding out of bounds.

Sheesh!
Couldn't prove that it didn't hit the PIT helmet, so you can't overturn.
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So, I took a Texags break after yesterday's game. Knew there'd be nothing but trolls and I'd probably say something stupid too. But after 24 hours I think we need to blow this thing up, starting with the coaching staff and trading Micah. Why? We can't afford to pay everyone and Micah is our biggest trade piece and very overrated IMO. He's soft. Hit him in the mouth and he disappears EVERY time. Also, this draft class is deep at QB. Use that draft capital (Chicago???) and take an elite QB and start over with a new regime.
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I think you have to blow it up and not even because it might be the most prudent move, because it's probably not. I just don't think you can do nothing after a game like yesterday. I think you lose fans if you just roll that team back out there as is.
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I went to my first game 60 years ago. Gave it up about 20 years ago. Don't take this the wrong way because it's really just a general comment but investing emotion into the Jones fiasco has no upside. They're proven incompetent buffoons when it comes to running a football team. The business part they've got down but that does nothing for a fan.
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Just read Cowlishaw's article on DMN, and even he has absolutely no idea what to do and sounds like all of us. He did mention that he thought Belichick would take the job and it would go better than people think, because he would have absolutely no GM power. Also said there's zero chance Harbaugh would come here because he would want absolute and complete control over the franchise and wouldn't get that here.
jja79
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Until the Jones family sells this team will never win.
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CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Bring in belichick
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jja79 said:

Until the Jones family sells this team will never win.


Unless they hire a true GM and let them run the show.

Not holding my breath.
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Grapesoda2525 said:

Bring in belichick


Way rather have Harbaugh.

Has built multiple organizations and is younger.

The Jones family is dumber than I thought if they call Belichick in over Harbaugh. But honestly, knowing the Jones family I wouldn't be shocked at all to find out they just honed in on one guy and made their decision to not even consider anyone else.
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LB12Diamond said:

jja79 said:

Until the Jones family sells this team will never win.


Unless they hire a true GM and let them run the show.

Not holding my breath.
sigh. Will McClay is the GM. Jerry does less than 2% of real GM work year round.
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Is that true. Heard the Jones are heavily involved in personnel decisions. Have family in Frisco that's friends with Stephen. Used to have the suite right next to the Jones.
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