*******The Official Houston Texans 2023: The reign of Meco thread************

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LB12Diamond said:

Whoever drafted him out of college. Meco's relationship with the Texans started at that point and here we are today.
Caserly. That was the Mario Williams draft, if I remember correctly.
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Texan_Aggie said:

LB12Diamond said:

Whoever drafted him out of college. Meco's relationship with the Texans started at that point and here we are today.
Caserly. That was the Mario Williams draft, if I remember correctly.
Correct. Demeco was the overwhelming choice for Defensive ROY with 36 votes. Mark Anderson was 2nd with 5 votes and Mario cranked out a big 1 vote.
Demeco had 126 tackles, 3.5 sacks and an INT in his rookie year.

I'm going to assume that if Will Anderson wins D-ROY, it will be the first time that a former D-ROY has coached a D-ROY in his rookie season as a coach

That '06 draft was supposed to be the greatest of all time and most of the first round turned out meh-to-good.Of the top 11 picks, there was only 1 All-Pro season combined, that by Mario one year. Based on Pro Bowls, the best player in the first round that year was Nick Mangold , the center for the Jets.

DeMeco was the first pick of the 2nd round. The Texans took Charles Spencer, and his fantastic 2 games in the third pick, as well as Eric Winston, then the very solid Owen Daniels after that. A name that made me laugh at #170 - Wali Lundy.
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BoB now running the Ohio St. offense. May he continue to downgrade.
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Fortunately we got CJ before BoB could get a chance to screw him up.
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The Porkchop Express said:

Texan_Aggie said:

LB12Diamond said:

Whoever drafted him out of college. Meco's relationship with the Texans started at that point and here we are today.
Caserly. That was the Mario Williams draft, if I remember correctly.
Correct. Demeco was the overwhelming choice for Defensive ROY with 36 votes. Mark Anderson was 2nd with 5 votes and Mario cranked out a big 1 vote.
Demeco had 126 tackles, 3.5 sacks and an INT in his rookie year.

I'm going to assume that if Will Anderson wins D-ROY, it will be the first time that a former D-ROY has coached a D-ROY in his rookie season as a coach

That '06 draft was supposed to be the greatest of all time and most of the first round turned out meh-to-good.Of the top 11 picks, there was only 1 All-Pro season combined, that by Mario one year. Based on Pro Bowls, the best player in the first round that year was Nick Mangold , the center for the Jets.

DeMeco was the first pick of the 2nd round. The Texans took Charles Spencer, and his fantastic 2 games in the third pick, as well as Eric Winston, then the very solid Owen Daniels after that. A name that made me laugh at #170 - Wali Lundy.
I believe Mario, DeMeco and Daniels all made the pro-bowl. Nice parting gift by Caserly. Then we entered the Rick Smith years...
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Going back to the Mario draft… I actually think Reggie Bush was ahead of his time. Back in 06, not a lot of teams used running backs in the passing game like they do today. If he came out in the 2024 draft he would basically be McCaffrey2.0 and be an all pro most years
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Mathguy64 said:

Fortunately we got CJ before BoB could get a chance to screw him up.


And after lol
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Spencer's injury was pretty nasty. Thought he was gonna be good.
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tjack16 said:

Going back to the Mario draft… I actually think Reggie Bush was ahead of his time. Back in 06, not a lot of teams used running backs in the passing game like they do today. If he came out in the 2024 draft he would basically be McCaffrey2.0 and be an all pro most years
I remember those fervent days of wondering who weere going to take #1, Vince or Reggie? The night before the draft I was covering a baseballl game or something and Sam Khan yelled out, "Holy **** they're taking Mario Williams?"
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Tx_Aggie15 said:






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tjack16 said:

Going back to the Mario draft… I actually think Reggie Bush was ahead of his time. Back in 06, not a lot of teams used running backs in the passing game like they do today. If he came out in the 2024 draft he would basically be McCaffrey2.0 and be an all pro most years
Valid point. One of my favorite backs and offenses was Bill Walsh with the 49ers and the way he used Roger Craig. Craig could line up behind FB Tom Rathman one play and go for 6 yards then for 15 on a swing pass the next play. His receiving yards were always pretty close to his rushing yards.

As far as Reggie Bush, before that draft Merril Hoge ran a piece on ESPN about how Bush could be a top WR in the draft if that's how a team wanted to use him. Hoge ran film showing Bush's route running and great hands on those plays in college where USC lined him up out wide.
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Ahh Reggie Bush

The MVP for the sips only NC in my lifetime.
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tjack16 said:

Going back to the Mario draft… I actually think Reggie Bush was ahead of his time. Back in 06, not a lot of teams used running backs in the passing game like they do today. If he came out in the 2024 draft he would basically be McCaffrey2.0 and be an all pro most years
Totally agree. He finally got to the Saints who had an ahead-of-their-time offensive scheme, but unfortunately murder wasn't yet penalized:

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Reading an article on the Ringer this morning about coaching hires and these quotes from Mike Tomlin made me simultaneously thankful for Demeco and angry and Jimbo:

"I love to hear coaches resist the responsibility of coaching," Tomlin said. "They'll talk negatively about a dude that can't learn and blah, blah. Man, if everybody could learn, we'd need less coaches, right? If the group didn't need management, then we wouldn't make as much."

"I love reading draft evals and somebody's talking about anything other than pedigree, talking about how poor somebody's hand usage is. Well, that's coaching. I don't run away from coaching. I run to coaching. It all is in line with not seeking comfort, because when you're a coach that's talking about, 'Somebody can't learn,' you're seeking comfort because your teaching is struggling."

That's the good stuff. When a coach blames players for execution, it's a red flag.
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Everyone knew it was an excuse right when he started doing it. And the broken record never stopped until he was fired.
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Johnsy3 said:

Reading an article on the Ringer this morning about coaching hires and these quotes from Mike Tomlin made me simultaneously thankful for Demeco and angry and Jimbo:

"I love to hear coaches resist the responsibility of coaching," Tomlin said. "They'll talk negatively about a dude that can't learn and blah, blah. Man, if everybody could learn, we'd need less coaches, right? If the group didn't need management, then we wouldn't make as much."

"I love reading draft evals and somebody's talking about anything other than pedigree, talking about how poor somebody's hand usage is. Well, that's coaching. I don't run away from coaching. I run to coaching. It all is in line with not seeking comfort, because when you're a coach that's talking about, 'Somebody can't learn,' you're seeking comfort because your teaching is struggling."

That's the good stuff. When a coach blames players for execution, it's a red flag.
My 2nd year covering HS football in the 1990s in the state semifinals, one team was going for it on 4th and 2 at midfield.

The whole game was on the line. The coach of the other team knew what they were running, but also knew that his MIKE linebacker would not listen to his directions because that guy was only obsessed with rushing the QB.

So he yanked that guy out and put in his own son, who was the team's backup quarterback, probably 5 foot 8 about 165 pounds at MIKE. His son watched film with him 2 hours a day and knew every single thing that the team was going to try and do. His son creeps up on the line and when they hike it, goes right through the gap left by a pulling guard and tackles the tailback for a NINE YARD LOSS basically right when he gets the pitch. Ball game.

Great coaching/teaching is like a video game cheat code when the coach can get their ear and the player will listen.

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One less weapon for Lamar.

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I think I might be more scared of Baltimore now that I realize Andrews hasn't played much this year. His last touchdown catch was in October.
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Wow no Marlon Humphrey nor Mark Andrews. No Humphrey is huuuuuuge. That's the guy that could've shut down Nico on an island.
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The Porkchop Express said:

I think I might be more scared of Baltimore now that I realize Andrews hasn't played much this year. His last touchdown catch was in October.
Likely isn't a slouch
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gougler08 said:

The Porkchop Express said:

I think I might be more scared of Baltimore now that I realize Andrews hasn't played much this year. His last touchdown catch was in October.
Likely isn't a slouch

True. But...

Likely < Likely + Andrews
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Ag_07 said:

gougler08 said:

The Porkchop Express said:

I think I might be more scared of Baltimore now that I realize Andrews hasn't played much this year. His last touchdown catch was in October.
Likely isn't a slouch

True. But...

Likely < Likely + Andrews
Oh 100% agree, it's just they haven't fallen off as much as they would have in previous years. Helps they finally have a decent WR as well
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How are we feeling about tomorrow boys? What are the keys to victory?
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I'd be more worried with CJ having a clean pocket than our receivers not getting open.

Madubuike, Queen, Clowney and Roquan are going to give us fits. Also, Baltimore has allowed the least amount of offensive TDs in the league by far and allow the least amount of points as well.

Texans defense will need to be focused and contain Lamar while the offense will need to sustain drives.

Should be a fun matchup.
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Tx_Aggie15 said:

How are we feeling about tomorrow boys? What are the keys to victory?

Honestly I don't know what to think.

On paper it's a really tough matchup, BAL is a legit SB contender and has been all year, and the Texans and double digit road dogs.

BUT I saw what they did to Cleveland last week and they looked like they could beat anyone in the league, it's been almost 3 weeks since the Ravens starters have played a game, and Lamar has not faired well in playoff games.

I also saw that overall teams that have a playoff BYE are under .500 in division round games.

There are reasons to like both sides in this one. Gonna be fun either way
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Baltimore hasn't played a meaningful game in three weeks. I take the Texans to cover; winning is also not out of the question. Stroud is just that good.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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I firmly believe that tomorrow is going to be a special day for the Texans and the City of Houston. This team is playing their best ball at the right time.
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the franchise is looking for its first playoff road win
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W said:

the franchise is looking for its first playoff road win



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Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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As long as Jacoby Jones isn't playing, I feel ok about our chances
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High of 27 tomorrow but no snow
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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W said:

the franchise is looking for its first playoff road win
My first thought was "but what about...," and then I remembered our victories against the Patriots and Chargers in 1979 and 1980 don't count.

FU Bud Adams and progeny.
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I think the wrinkle to beat this team is to work in some designed runs for CJ. He hadn't done it all year but he has the design for it. They know he likes to get the ball out quickly so they are likely to sell out on some blitzes where they leave the middle wide open. I've been waiting to see them add that dimension all year and this seems like the time to do it.
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W said:

the franchise is looking for its first playoff road win


So is Patrick Mahommes
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