Texans picked up one-time Aggie target Kendall Sheffield from waivers.

Somebody needs to work on their math or logic skills. Colts and Texans have the exact same opponents and play atHouston week 1 then at Indy the final week. It's fairly likely they will split those games. The 3 different opponents are Minn, NE and Pitt for Indy vs Bears, Miami and Clev for the Texans. Advantage Texans. So How does Houston have the 5th hardest while Indy has third easiest?

Well, like I stated previously, the Colts play (in some views) the worst team in the league twice and the Texans play a fringe playoff team (that upgraded at QB) twice. The national pundits aren't expecting the Texans to be good this year, and in fact, many are predicting them to be bottom 5 again.

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Well, like I stated previously, the Colts play (in some views) the worst team in the league twice and the Texans play a fringe playoff team (that upgraded at QB) twice. The national pundits aren't expecting the Texans to be good this year, and in fact, many are predicting them to be bottom 5 again.

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Excluding the Chiefs (playing the AFC West plus a division winning schedule), I just think there isn't a lot of difference between a mid-level tough schedule and a top 5 tough schedule.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/06/04/the-24-deshaun-watson-trials-present-a-key-evidence-question-can-evidence-of-other-allegations-be-introduced/

I'm so glad he isn't our problem anymore. After the contract they gave him I don't see the Browns keeping him off the field and away from the media unless the NFL suspends him.

Well this just keeps getting deeper.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html

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Watson has said publicly that he hired about 40 different therapists across his five seasons in Houston, but The Times's reporting found that he booked appointments with at least 66 different women in just the 17 months from fall 2019 through spring 2021. A few of these additional women, speaking publicly for the first time, described experiences that undercut Watson's insistence that he was only seeking professional massage therapy.

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Also seems the Texans provided him with an NDA for his masseuses to sign. Not sure how aware they were of what was going on, but seems they at the very least knew he was seeking massages outside of the organization.

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Well this just keeps getting deeper.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html

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Watson has said publicly that he hired about 40 different therapists across his five seasons in Houston, but The Times's reporting found that he booked appointments with at least 66 different women in just the 17 months from fall 2019 through spring 2021. A few of these additional women, speaking publicly for the first time, described experiences that undercut Watson's insistence that he was only seeking professional massage therapy.

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Also seems the Texans provided him with an NDA for his masseuses to sign. Not sure how aware they were of what was going on, but seems they at the very least knew he was seeking massages outside of the organization.

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The nda stuff could be big or it could be absolutely nothing. My bet is they give all of the players a nda for trainers, therapists, etc. The question is did they give him 1 nda and he just made copies or did the Texans continually give him new ndas.

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bluefire579 said:

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Well this just keeps getting deeper.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html

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Watson has said publicly that he hired about 40 different therapists across his five seasons in Houston, but The Times's reporting found that he booked appointments with at least 66 different women in just the 17 months from fall 2019 through spring 2021. A few of these additional women, speaking publicly for the first time, described experiences that undercut Watson's insistence that he was only seeking professional massage therapy.

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Also seems the Texans provided him with an NDA for his masseuses to sign. Not sure how aware they were of what was going on, but seems they at the very least knew he was seeking massages outside of the organization.

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The nda stuff could be big or it could be absolutely nothing. My bet is they give all of the players a nda for trainers, therapists, etc. The question is did they give him 1 nda and he just made copies or did the Texans continually give him new ndas.

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Do they?

I doubt they do, the team provides massage therapists, trainers, etc, if you go outside the team you should be on your own.

We all know he went outside the team for a reason, and it wasn't because he was using the TB12 method.

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Well this just keeps getting deeper.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/sports/football/deshaun-watson.html

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Watson has said publicly that he hired about 40 different therapists across his five seasons in Houston, but The Times's reporting found that he booked appointments with at least 66 different women in just the 17 months from fall 2019 through spring 2021. A few of these additional women, speaking publicly for the first time, described experiences that undercut Watson's insistence that he was only seeking professional massage therapy.

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Also seems the Texans provided him with an NDA for his masseuses to sign. Not sure how aware they were of what was going on, but seems they at the very least knew he was seeking massages outside of the organization.

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The nda stuff could be big or it could be absolutely nothing. My bet is they give all of the players a nda for trainers, therapists, etc. The question is did they give him 1 nda and he just made copies or did the Texans continually give him new ndas.

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Do they?

I doubt they do, the team provides massage therapists, trainers, etc, if you go outside the team you should be on your own.

We all know he went outside the team for a reason, and it wasn't because he was using the TB12 method.

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Yes it is super common. They don't want outside people utilizing the players name or more importantly using the team or nfl names to promote their businesses.

At least one reason the Texans don't look nearly as bad as the Browns right now is that Houston voluntarily kept him off the field last year. They ate his entire salary for 2021, the NFL didn't keep him off the field, the Texans did. The NFL didn't suspend him or put him on the exempt list. It's my one glimmer of hope that the organization itself didn't try to protect him from what he got himself into. I work with a number of people in the Cleveland area and they either forgot or didn't realize at all that the organization did that vs the NFL. They thought this was basically settled in the eyes of the NFL because he didn't play last season and they let the trade take place (regardless of the suspension protections in the contract). They can't believe there's a chance he doesn't take the field this year, and it's a very real possibility.

No idea if the organization was complicit in any of his activities or if that was just one of their security personnel. The article is behind a pay wall so I couldn't read it, perhaps there's a lot more than what I've been able to read.

As the days go by I don't think Watson is playing football this year. Either he's getting suspended for the season or gets put on the exempt list while this plays out. Regardless of whether the grand jury brought charges this is a big black eye for the NFL right now. Training camps start next month, at some point in the next 4-6 weeks the NFL is going to have to make a decision about Watson's 2022 season.

Based on what I've read and heard I don't think the Texans were complicit but there's an argument there that they were negligent.

Did no one stop and think...Hmm I wonder why Deshaun is getting massages from 60 different women that he arranges on Instagram and not the handful of massage therapists we have available here.

That's what I was getting at. We're the Texans constantly giving him NDAs but asking what they were for. Or did they give him an NDA which he used multiple times.

The title of the article implies more about the Texans than what is actually reported in the article itself. Will be interesting to find out how much the Texans actually knew and how involved they actually were.

I haven't heard anything of the sort but it's just my gut feeling that Buzbee's end game is going after the NFL and/or the Texans.

Just my 0.02

Was someone in the organization supposed to freak out about a star NFL QB getting with 66 girls? I doubt he mentioned the part about sexually assaulting them.

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I haven't heard anything of the sort but it's just my gut feeling that Buzbee's end game is going after the NFL and/or the Texans.

Just my 0.02

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Is this Tony's revenge for the Texans not wasting a pick on Johnny?

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I haven't heard anything of the sort but it's just my gut feeling that Buzbee's end game is going after the NFL and/or the Texans.

Just my 0.02

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As a general rule, plaintiff's attorneys target the most culpable party unless they don't have money/insurance. If that's the case, they will then look for others to sue. Deshaun is clearly the most culpable and now has hundreds of millions of dollars. He will remain the target defendant.

Having said that, Buzbee may try and go after the Texans too for the publicity and additional checkbook. But the idea that his end game is a very tenuous suit against the Texans (or an even more tenuous suit against the NFL) rather than his currently solid suit against Watson makes little sense. Tony's goal is to pursue the claim worth the most money. That's DeShaun.

The Texans aren't completely clean especially with the NDA but Buzbee knows adding the Texans not only gets the Texans attention but shows how the Texans didn't now what their star player was actually doing. However, an NDA doesn't give Watson the right to play out his greatest fantasies either. That's going to be the debate.

Buzbee gets made fun of a lot and rightfully so but I think he gets the settlements in this case.

Hadn't seen this from Buzbee until now

"Based on what we have learned from the Houston Police Department, we will soon be joining the Houston Texans organization and others as defendants in the ongoing lawsuits against Deshaun Watson. Our team has thoroughly vetted each case. We are considering many others. These women are the true heroes in this sordid story. What has become clear is that the Houston Texans organization and their contracting "massage therapy company" facilitated Deshaun Watson's conduct. In many of these cases, the Texans provided the opportunity for this conduct to occur. We believe the Texans organization was well aware of Watson's issues, but failed to act. They knew or certainly should have known. The Houston Texans organization provided rooms for Watson at the high-end Houstonian hotel for his "massages"; the Texans also provided massage tables and other support for Watson's proclivitiesostensibly to protect their "asset." We intend to make sure all involved in Watson's conduct are held accountable, in addition to and including Watson himself."

It'll look somewhat seedy, but the Texans can claim that 1 guy helped Watson arrange his trysts and the NDA was to ensure they stayed quiet since he is in a relationship. They'll say that's all they knew and never in a million years thought anything non-consensual was going on and would have absolutely put a stop to it if they did know. That won't get them out of the lawsuit, but Buzbee is going to have a very tough time proving they knew Watson was doing anything more than have consensual relations behind his girlfriend's back.

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Hadn't seen this from Buzbee until now

We believe the Texans organization was well aware of Watson's issues, but failed to act. They knew or certainly should have known. The Houston Texans organization provided rooms for Watson at the high-end Houstonian hotel for his "massages";

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I got a massage there once, really makes you think.

My first article on Stadium Rant, please give it a read when you get a chance.
http://texansinsider.com/2022/06/11/texans-legend-likes-direction-of-team-under-new-coach/

2 more...They just keep racking up for Deshaun.

Think the Browns regret this yet?

No. The trade wasn't about 2022.

It about 2023 and beyond