Brian Flores suing the NFL and NY Giants

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2:57p, 2/1/22


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"Sorry I ****ed this up. I double checked and misread the text. I think they are naming Brian Daboll. I'm sorry about that. BB."

Bill Belichick informing Plaintiff Brian Flores, three days before his interview with the New York Giants that Brian Daboll had already been selected for the job.

Page 7 of the complaint has the screenshots of the text messages between Belichick and Flores.
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rbcs_2
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3:04p, 2/1/22
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I hope they have some more evidence than that. Guess Flores won't be getting an HC job any time soon.
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In reply to rbcs_2 • 3:06p, 2/1/22
rbcs_2 said:
I hope they have some more evidence than that. Guess Flores won't be getting an HC job any time soon.
Agreed - to me this sounds like Flores being pissed about not getting the Denver job (when Fangio was hired) and then the Giants job.

He must not want to work at any of the other openings to be putting this out there...
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3:07p, 2/1/22
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Pretty odd timing for legal action. He's interviewed twice with Houston and has a meeting with New Orleans this week.
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jr15aggie
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3:11p, 2/1/22
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Unless I'm misunderstanding the situation... the NFL creates a rule which forces teams to interview coaches of color. The Giants find their new coach, but still have to interview a coach of color per the rule.

All is well until Flores finds out he's the token interview and is suing the NFL & Giants for racism!? The rule/regulation that was put into place to give black coaches more opportunities is now giving rise to new discriminatory lawsuits. Lol, what a world we live in.
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3:12p, 2/1/22
AG
Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up here in Houston. The Texans seem to not be bothered by their employees and their legal issues.
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3:13p, 2/1/22
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Say whatever you want about the validity of this lawsuit, the text exchange is pretty funny. Nice going, Bill.

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In reply to AgEng06 • 3:17p, 2/1/22
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AgEng06 said:
Say whatever you want about the validity of this lawsuit, the text exchange is pretty funny. Nice going, Bill.

I have a hard time believing Bill Belichick would spend the effort to type in Giants?!?!?! in a text message.
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3:26p, 2/1/22
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This is exactly what happens when you force teams to check a box in the hiring process. I'd bet every team has done this since the Rooney rule has been in place.
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In reply to lunchbox • 3:27p, 2/1/22
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lunchbox said:

Agreed - to me this sounds like Flores being pissed about not getting the Denver job (when Fangio was hired) and then the Giants job.
Both are referenced in the Complaint, so yeah, probably...
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In reply to tylercsbn9 • 3:29p, 2/1/22
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tylercsbn9 said:
This is exactly what happens when you force teams to check a box in the hiring process. I'd bet every team has done this since the Rooney rule has been in place.
That's part of the problem.
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3:39p, 2/1/22
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I've never seen a lawsuit that reads anything like this one. Not that I'm a lawyer, but it doesn't really even seem real. The language used is odd.
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In reply to boy09 • 3:40p, 2/1/22
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boy09 said:
tylercsbn9 said:
This is exactly what happens when you force teams to check a box in the hiring process. I'd bet every team has done this since the Rooney rule has been in place.
That's part of the problem.


Any sane person knew this would be the inevitable outcome of that rule.
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4:05p, 2/1/22
"Coach Belichick do you have any New Year's Resolutions?"

"Grumble grumble. Have my grandkids show me how to work this Motorolas flip phone. Grumble grumble."
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In reply to AgEng06 • 4:06p, 2/1/22
AgEng06 said:
Say whatever you want about the validity of this lawsuit, the text exchange is pretty funny. Nice going, Bill.

Lol that is hilarious.
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4:47p, 2/1/22
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The rule is racist, and thus, begets racism.

We've come full-circle.
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In reply to E • 4:49p, 2/1/22
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E said:
Wouldn't be surprised to see him end up here in Houston. The Texans seem to not be bothered by their employees and their legal issues.


He can finally live out his given destiny in Miami and coach, THE Deshaun Watson.
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4:50p, 2/1/22
AG
That's what happens when you have something like the Rooney rule.

Also we have a sitting president that has openly inferred he's only going to consider an AA woman for a soon to be open job and the media isn't in a tizzy about that. All the talking heads can spare me their BS.

The biggest bombshell in this should be the alleged pay to tank by the dolphins and the Brady thing in 19. Dolphins owner is ****ed if true
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5:10p, 2/1/22
END THE ROONEY RULE
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In reply to AgEng06 • 5:19p, 2/1/22
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AgEng06 said:
Say whatever you want about the validity of this lawsuit, the text exchange is pretty funny. Nice going, Bill.

What if Belichick knew exactly who he was texting and was trying to give a big F.U. to the NFL?
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5:53p, 2/1/22
He knew who he was texting. He misread a text from someone with nyg and thought they meant Flores, no Daboll
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6:08p, 2/1/22
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NFL teams suck at picking coaches
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In reply to amercer • 6:49p, 2/1/22
amercer said:
NFL teams suck at picking coaches


Every year more than half the teams come in below average.
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6:58p, 2/1/22
So the black guy is mad he didn't get the job so he's suing or he's mad he got interviewed only because he's black? Either way Flores is an idiot and the Rooney rule in general is racist. Lol.

Edit to add… this might be considered racist to some people but this is pretty good evidence for a lot of rich owners why not to hire a black coach. They seem entitled simply because they are black.
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7:06p, 2/1/22
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just fire Goodell and be done with it. come on Jerry! round the troops up.
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In reply to AustinCountyAg • 7:37p, 2/1/22
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AustinCountyAg said:
So the black guy is mad he didn't get the job so he's suing or he's mad he got interviewed only because he's black? Either way Flores is an idiot and the Rooney rule in general is racist. Lol.

Edit to add… this might be considered racist to some people but this is pretty good evidence for a lot of rich owners why not to hire a black coach. They seem entitled simply because they are black.


No joke. Why don't we see any Hispanic or Asian coaches getting pissed off for not even getting an interview? I know there are probably less of those races in the NFL but there have to be some that would be qualified to at least get an interview.
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9:44p, 2/1/22
AG
Wouldn't touch this jackass with a 10 foot pole. And the Rooney Rule isn't the law, moron. No law against them hiring a more qualified candidate and still giving you a token interview.
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In reply to E • 10:09p, 2/1/22
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Sounds like naming the finalists for the Texans are just a formality and Josh McCown is going to get the job in Houston, which makes less sense to me than the fact the Giants couldn't have their token interview with Flores a long time ago. Both had plenty of time to have an interview done by now.
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10:12p, 2/1/22
Sad to hear this. The firing surprised me because he really did make things better the second half of the season. the problem is he also lost seven games in a row. The Dolphin's problem, and it has been for over twenty years is they have no offensive line and the QBs have been mediocre. I don't thing Tua is first string material. So people creep up to the line knowing they also can't run the ball and Tua is left scrambling for hislife. And their defense is legendary, but in the most horrific way. The whole organization is cursed if you ask me because they had the best QB in football for a long, long time, but at that time they had no running game. Their pass protection was superb but if you couldn't run the ball or play defense you're a one-dimensional team. I'm sixty years old and I honestly don't believe they'll shore things up before I pass away, and I'm serious. Too many holes to plug in this ship. I'll continue to root though, I am loyal to my team.
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 10:30p, 2/1/22
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DannyDuberstein said:
And the Rooney Rule isn't the law, moron. No law against them hiring a more qualified candidate and still giving you a token interview.
It's a civil suit, smart guy.
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10:38p, 2/1/22
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and all of this is where today's political climate comes into play.

an owner does not want (or is terrified) to hire a coach that is going to use his "platform" to spout politics.

and unfortunately minority coaches bring the threat of that...especially ones with a chip on their shoulder
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In reply to boy09 • 12:01a, 2/2/22
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boy09 said:
DannyDuberstein said:
And the Rooney Rule isn't the law, moron. No law against them hiring a more qualified candidate and still giving you a token interview.
It's a civil suit, smart guy.


One with zero merit, smart guy
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 8:49a, 2/2/22
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That's for the court to determine. Obviously he thinks he's got a case considering he pretty much just torpedoed his chances of ever being hired as a HC ever again.
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In reply to boy09 • 8:52a, 2/2/22
What's the case?

The Giants interviewed Leslie Fraizer also in-person. So it's hard for him to even argue he was a token interview when they had in-person's with 2 different black head coaches prior to hiring Daboll.
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9:00a, 2/2/22
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On ESPN now with his lawyers. It's a money grab. His coaching career's over.
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