Why are we talking about Tony Romo?
Kellso said:People are so accustomed to the Tony Romo excuses that they say things that are not true.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:MookieBlaylock said:Mateo84 said:Texagtrojan said:Kellso said:
Dak Prescott is better than Tony Romo.
I would take Dak over Romo any day of the week.
Romo was the better qb. Dak is a better leader
Let's see how Dak's career turns out. Still lots of time left. If the Cowboys can win a Super Bowl with Dak, his legacy will be well beyond Romo's
Romo is so overrated it is comical
Like I said Charmed Life
Romo was an undrafted free agent that ended up being a franchise quarterback. He broke several franchise records while, for the most part, playing on a bunch of sorry teams. He never had a very good defense and played on a bunch of dysfunctional teams with sorry management.
I think Dak is better, but I don't think that Tony was overrated.
The 2009 Cowboys had the #2 defense in the NFL with an All Pro Defensive End and tackle.
The last three games of the 2009 season the Cowboys defense did this:
-Held Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints to 17 points in a 20-17 victory
-Beat Washington 17-0
Beat (11-5) Philadelphia 24-0
Until 2021 Dak has never had a defense remotely as good as 2009.
Gotta beat the team across from you unfortunately. I think the cowboys have had a lot of bad luck with playoff matchups. Hopefully that changes this year. Seriously… their reward for going 13-3 was a matchup against the super bowl winning giants in 2007 and Aaron Rodgers in 2016? Oof.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:Kellso said:People are so accustomed to the Tony Romo excuses that they say things that are not true.Hubert J. Farnsworth said:MookieBlaylock said:Mateo84 said:Texagtrojan said:Kellso said:
Dak Prescott is better than Tony Romo.
I would take Dak over Romo any day of the week.
Romo was the better qb. Dak is a better leader
Let's see how Dak's career turns out. Still lots of time left. If the Cowboys can win a Super Bowl with Dak, his legacy will be well beyond Romo's
Romo is so overrated it is comical
Like I said Charmed Life
Romo was an undrafted free agent that ended up being a franchise quarterback. He broke several franchise records while, for the most part, playing on a bunch of sorry teams. He never had a very good defense and played on a bunch of dysfunctional teams with sorry management.
I think Dak is better, but I don't think that Tony was overrated.
The 2009 Cowboys had the #2 defense in the NFL with an All Pro Defensive End and tackle.
The last three games of the 2009 season the Cowboys defense did this:
-Held Super Bowl Champion New Orleans Saints to 17 points in a 20-17 victory
-Beat Washington 17-0
Beat (11-5) Philadelphia 24-0
Until 2021 Dak has never had a defense remotely as good as 2009.
I was going off memory. Forgot about that year. That playoff loss to Favre and the Vikings sucked.
This kills me. Perfectly executed gif.fc2112 said:TexasAggie_97 said:
Dark has a right calf strain. Good thing we have a bi week.
You just said it.hph6203 said:
Dak's win percentage is 62.1%.
Romo's was 61.4%.
Dak is 1-2 in the playoffs.
Romo was 2-4.
If you are what your record says you are and all.
They're basically the same. Romo was more explosive, but had more turnovers. Dak has been more boring/less accurate, but just as productive.
Some people can't get over a fumbled field goal hold or a trip to Cabo to see Romo was a pretty damn good quarterback and Dak really hasn't done much more with a generally more talented team. Dak has never played with a run game outside the top 10, Romo played with 2 in the top 10 his entire career and was 2nd team all-pro one of those years.
There's really not that much difference between the two.
nopeKellso said:You just said it.hph6203 said:
Dak's win percentage is 62.1%.
Romo's was 61.4%.
Dak is 1-2 in the playoffs.
Romo was 2-4.
If you are what your record says you are and all.
They're basically the same. Romo was more explosive, but had more turnovers. Dak has been more boring/less accurate, but just as productive.
Some people can't get over a fumbled field goal hold or a trip to Cabo to see Romo was a pretty damn good quarterback and Dak really hasn't done much more with a generally more talented team. Dak has never played with a run game outside the top 10, Romo played with 2 in the top 10 his entire career and was 2nd team all-pro one of those years.
There's really not that much difference between the two.
I don't give a F about explosive.
Those turnovers KILLED the Cowboys during the Romo years, and its precisely why the team did not have more success.
Dak Prescott 2016 season made him the real life version of Willie Beamon. Its almost the exact same story of the main plot of Any Given Sunday.
I don't give a F about Cabo. Most of the Cowboys players are on vacation this week, and good for them.hph6203 said:
Clearly not, since they have the same win pct and Romo's turnover rate isn't that much higher than 2 TO yesterday Dak. Romo had a turnover on 3.1% of passing attempts, Dak has one on 2.4% of passing attempts (including fumbles, since Dak has worse butter fingers).
Meaning Romo, in a 500 attempt season would have 3 more turnovers. He also had a TD on 5.7% of attempts to Dak's 4.9%. Or 28.5 TDs in a 500 attempt season versus 24.5 for Dak. Or 4 TDs more over a season. In other words at worst Romo is 1 TD better than Dak over the course of a season. That's assuming the opposing offense scores a TD on every additional turnover, which they don't.
You just don't like Romo, because he went to Cabo whether you want to admit it or not.
You also forgot to mention Terry Glenn in the list of Romo weapons. Show some respect for the dead!
I would have loved to see Tony Romo not turn the ball over when the Dallas Cowboys needed him the most.DannyDuberstein said:
I would have loved to have seen Romo with a coordinator/coach not named Jason Garrett
Not even Close??????hph6203 said:
The Patriots went 16-0 in the regular season in 2007, scored 36 points a game, and scored 3 fewer points than that Cowboys team did.
And in case you can't figure it out from that, the Patriots were the most talented offense. The Colts also had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Anthony Martinez (who had a very good year that year) and Peyton Manning.
Romo was, statistically, the most clutch quarterback in the NFL during his playing years. The numbers back it up. He had more 4th quarter comebacks in his career per start than any other quarterback in the top 20 in comebacks. He had the highest quarterback rating in the NFL in the 4th quarter in history when he retired.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/you-think-tony-romo-wasnt-clutch-in-big-moments-during-his-career-think-again/amp/
My point is not that Romo is better than Dak. It's that there, so far, is not much that separates them. They are both good quarterbacks. You insist that Romo was bad. He wasn't. The team around him often was. He spent alot of his career playing with a bottom 12 running game. The one year he had a top tier running attack he was 2nd team all pro. And deserved it. Dak has never played with one outside the top 10, so of course his teams look better.
The team this year is far and away the most talented they've had on offense since the Super Bowls. It's not even close.
Nah, you're wrongKellso said:Not even Close??????hph6203 said:
The Patriots went 16-0 in the regular season in 2007, scored 36 points a game, and scored 3 fewer points than that Cowboys team did.
And in case you can't figure it out from that, the Patriots were the most talented offense. The Colts also had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Anthony Martinez (who had a very good year that year) and Peyton Manning.
Romo was, statistically, the most clutch quarterback in the NFL during his playing years. The numbers back it up. He had more 4th quarter comebacks in his career per start than any other quarterback in the top 20 in comebacks. He had the highest quarterback rating in the NFL in the 4th quarter in history when he retired.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/you-think-tony-romo-wasnt-clutch-in-big-moments-during-his-career-think-again/amp/
My point is not that Romo is better than Dak. It's that there, so far, is not much that separates them. They are both good quarterbacks. You insist that Romo was bad. He wasn't. The team around him often was. He spent alot of his career playing with a bottom 12 running game. The one year he had a top tier running attack he was 2nd team all pro. And deserved it. Dak has never played with one outside the top 10, so of course his teams look better.
The team this year is far and away the most talented they've had on offense since the Super Bowls. It's not even close.
The 2007 Cowboys had thee Pro Bowl Lineman in Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis and Flozell Adams. Davis and Adams were both 2nd team All Pro.
Terrell Owens and Jason Witten were both 1st team all Pro. I like the current crop of receivers, but none of them are as good as TO.
Blake Jarwin and Shultz are solid, but not as good as Witten.
Marion Barber made the Pro Bowl that year as a tailback.
DeMarcus Ware is superior to any current defensive player on the Cowboys.
The Great Tony Romo could only lead that squad to 17 points in their post season game. You can cite all the stats you want, but Romo's penchant for not protecting the ball is why the Cowboys did not accomplish more.
These interceptions listed on this video are horrendous. and this is why Dak Prescott is superior to Tony Romo. Dak doesn't make stupid decisions in crunch time.
Got ya.PatAg said:Nah, you're wrongKellso said:Not even Close??????hph6203 said:
The Patriots went 16-0 in the regular season in 2007, scored 36 points a game, and scored 3 fewer points than that Cowboys team did.
And in case you can't figure it out from that, the Patriots were the most talented offense. The Colts also had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, Joseph Addai, Anthony Martinez (who had a very good year that year) and Peyton Manning.
Romo was, statistically, the most clutch quarterback in the NFL during his playing years. The numbers back it up. He had more 4th quarter comebacks in his career per start than any other quarterback in the top 20 in comebacks. He had the highest quarterback rating in the NFL in the 4th quarter in history when he retired.
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/you-think-tony-romo-wasnt-clutch-in-big-moments-during-his-career-think-again/amp/
My point is not that Romo is better than Dak. It's that there, so far, is not much that separates them. They are both good quarterbacks. You insist that Romo was bad. He wasn't. The team around him often was. He spent alot of his career playing with a bottom 12 running game. The one year he had a top tier running attack he was 2nd team all pro. And deserved it. Dak has never played with one outside the top 10, so of course his teams look better.
The team this year is far and away the most talented they've had on offense since the Super Bowls. It's not even close.
The 2007 Cowboys had thee Pro Bowl Lineman in Andre Gurode, Leonard Davis and Flozell Adams. Davis and Adams were both 2nd team All Pro.
Terrell Owens and Jason Witten were both 1st team all Pro. I like the current crop of receivers, but none of them are as good as TO.
Blake Jarwin and Shultz are solid, but not as good as Witten.
Marion Barber made the Pro Bowl that year as a tailback.
DeMarcus Ware is superior to any current defensive player on the Cowboys.
The Great Tony Romo could only lead that squad to 17 points in their post season game. You can cite all the stats you want, but Romo's penchant for not protecting the ball is why the Cowboys did not accomplish more.
These interceptions listed on this video are horrendous. and this is why Dak Prescott is superior to Tony Romo. Dak doesn't make stupid decisions in crunch time.
Leonard Davis was a 3X Pro Bowl player from 2007-2009 and 2nd Team ALL Pro in 2007hph6203 said:
Leonard Davis.
NahKellso said:Leonard Davis was a 3X Pro Bowl player from 2007-2009 and 2nd Team ALL Pro in 2007hph6203 said:
Leonard Davis.
I trust the evaluations of the NFL Media over some random chump on Texags.
This is a classic example of that Tony Romo hyperbole, and excuse making that drives me crazy.
Its not Tony Romo's fault that he couldn't protect the ball....its the surrounding cast.
To reiterate that it was other people's fault, and not Romo's...... I have to make BS hyperbolic statements like Dak is playing with talent that Romo never did.....AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Tony Romo played with plenty of talent when he was the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. His penchant for turnovers is what doomed him in Dallas.
Yes.PatAg said:NahKellso said:Leonard Davis was a 3X Pro Bowl player from 2007-2009 and 2nd Team ALL Pro in 2007hph6203 said:
Leonard Davis.
I trust the evaluations of the NFL Media over some random chump on Texags.
This is a classic example of that Tony Romo hyperbole, and excuse making that drives me crazy.
Its not Tony Romo's fault that he couldn't protect the ball....its the surrounding cast.
To reiterate that it was other people's fault, and not Romo's...... I have to make BS hyperbolic statements like Dak is playing with talent that Romo never did.....AND ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Tony Romo played with plenty of talent when he was the quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. His penchant for turnovers is what doomed him in Dallas.
I could make a long list of games where Tony Romo's carelessness with the ball is the direct reason the Cowboys lost the game.DannyDuberstein said:
When he says Dak doesn't turn it over, I guess he means except for the redzone INT in the playoff game they lost by 3 points
Anyone remember this one? Yikes. Should have been a pick 6