Gruden is done

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GCP12
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He called Goodell the F-word in an email. He's done.
Love Gun
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Well, Goodell IS a ****wad.
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mike_ags_fan12
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What an Idiot.
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bilbobag
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The league leaking emails until the Raiders had no choice but to fire Gruden. The league had no leg to stand on so it had to come from the Raiders.

Don't mess with Goodell
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Gruden made $10 MM per season coaching the Raiders for 3+ years.

he'll be okay
Muy
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"Incredible fall"

Yeah, this is horrific. Not sure how we'll live through this.
DenverAg91
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Crickets on how his contract was for 10yr/ $100 million.

Jimbo's contract was a bargain and we have gotten a much larger ROI.

Yes, it's apples to oranges but that's an insane contract for a guy that hadn't coached in over a decade for Gruden.
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98Ag99Grad
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Been casually following this. What brought about this email purge in the first place?
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98Ag99Grad said:

Been casually following this. What brought about this email purge in the first place?

He was emailing Bruce Allen, who was president of the Redskins at the time. After all that stuff came out about the atmosphere at Washington, the NFL did an investigation.

Gruden, an employee of ESPN at the time, emailed Allen from his personal account. Allen's emails revealed Gruden's emails and Goodell wanted a scalp.
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Who gives a **** what he said in emails or otherwise. If he could coach/win and his players loved him/trusted him, then that's all that matters. I'm so sick and tired of this cancel culture bull*****
Bunk Moreland
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Gotta feel awful for Frank Caliendo. He really had a resurgence going this year
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10 year old emails was an insanely deep search. That's pure witch hunt territory
Casual Cynic
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The PC police found him.
Bunk Moreland
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NFL and Goodell did him in.
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98Ag99Grad said:

Been casually following this. What brought about this email purge in the first place?

The emails are from the fbi investigation of the wft but as to why they are being made public my guess is goodell read the ones about himself and took it personally.

Edit: I really need to hit refresh before commenting the same thing as 10 people.
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Urban will be next
Love Gun
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Chrundle the Great said:

98Ag99Grad said:

Been casually following this. What brought about this email purge in the first place?

The emails are from the fbi investigation of the wft but as to why they are being made public my guess is goodell read the ones about himself and took it personally.




Roger Goodell is the worst thing to ever happen to the NFL.
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The FBI search seems to be related to the team trainer and drugs. Seems unlikely that they would be going back 10 years. I think these emails are from the NFL looking into the romper room situation in Washington that led to Snyder stepping back. But they decided to burn Gruden too.
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LOL, he also called Biden a.....

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In other words, he called a spade a spade
Keef_barber
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Wear blackface in a year book ok for governor of Virginia! Emails when you are not even in the NFL fire him!!!!!!!!!!
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In other words, he called a garden tool a garden tool
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LostTexasBoy said:

Who gives a **** what he said in emails or otherwise. If he could coach/win and his players loved him/trusted him, then that's all that matters. I'm so sick and tired of this cancel culture bull*****
He's damn near halfway through a ten-year contract and has never finished better than .500. His team also features the only openly gay male athlete in the four major professional sports whose teammate have all rallied behind (by all accounts). So yeah, it matters - for Gruden anyway.

If this happened Belichick or Carroll, then I'd say there would be more slack.
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Wisconsin_Ag said:

Urban will be next
Jags ownership have to be blowing up their network guys to see what options they might have.
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Just read that as part of the investigation that led to this, the NFL went through over 650,000 emails. Just wow. What a waste of freaking time. I guess the NFL was like, how can we make even more people hate our game? Smdh
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LostTexasBoy said:

Just read that as part of the investigation that led to this, the NFL went through over 650,000 emails. Just wow. What a waste of freaking time. I guess the NFL was like, how can we make even more people hate our game? Smdh


Only purpose was to get leverage over guys the league office doesn't like. It's the only explanation. Going on some crusade based on 10 year old supposedly private communication between a couple of friends accomplishes nothing else
The Porkchop Express
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If we could parlay this into an internal investigation of all ESPN staffers' emails over the past 15 years, they wouldn't have a single person left to report the news.
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Wonder if any of these performers have used any of those words in Gruden's emails? Like in song lyrics or something?
WestGalvestonAggie
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Roger Goodell sucks. Not excusing Gruden, he was wrong, but Goodell looks really bad here too.
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helloimustbegoing said:

If we could parlay this into an internal investigation of all ESPN staffers' emails over the past 15 years, they wouldn't have a single person left to report the news.

https://twitter.com/MichaelRyanRuiz/status/1447739429615976450?t=kLVZfQPBMoM2GkPcDtgfuA&s=19
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W said:

Gruden made $10 MM per season coaching the Raiders for 3+ years.

he'll be okay
No he didn't and that's exactly why he was fired.

Since the Raiders were moving from Oakland to Las Vegas, Gruden didn't want to lose millions to California's ridiculously high income tax so he requested a back loaded contract. For the first 5 years, Gruden was making ~$5M per year and the last years Gruden would make ~$15M per year.

For reference, league average is around $7M per year. The highest paid coach is Belicheck at $12M per year. At $5M per year, Gruden was getting paid on the same as NFL legends Joe Judge and Vic Fangio.

From the Raiders perspective, it was a great deal. Get Gruden for 5 years on a cheap bargain and if he makes them a Superbowl contender, pay him at the top of the league.

So were the Raiders close to competing for a Superbowl?

When Gruden started in 2018, the Chiefs were dominating the AFC West. Gruden traded the top talent (Khalil Mack & Amari Coper) for future picks. The Raiders are predictably bottom dwellers at 4-12. The next two season are an improvement but still only average at 7-9 & 8-8.

By 2021, the tides had changed. The Chiefs were struggling and the AFC West was up for grabs. The Raiders start strong upsetting a talented Ravens team. They then eek out wins against bad Steelers and Dolphins.

Next they lose a crucial game and the division lead to the Chargers in a game that was never really in question. This weekend, the Raiders got embarrassed by an average Chicago team.

It was clear that the Raiders wouldn't be in the playoffs this season. The Gruden experiment was over. He is an average coach who wouldn't live up to his hype, but the Raiders were stuck with him an his hefty contract for 6 more seasons.

So how do you get out of a bad contract situation? Dig up some old emails and call him a racist.

It's not about sending a message. It's about the money.
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