educational SAAS product
Not sure what ICP stands for ..
Not sure what ICP stands for ..
exactly thisHoyt Ag said:
I'm in management for a large utility company. BS and MS in unrelated fields. Just worked hard and had a strong network. It is extremely stressful work and sometimes long hours, but the pay is good and I get a lot of time off. My best advice is to work harder(and smarter), learn faster and bring more value to the company than anyone around you. I knew the assets of any company I worked for better than anyone and was the most consistent in getting information on how things worked and what they cost to do so. That is why I became successful.
Funny story and I suspect this would be where the OP fits in on the spectrum of work effort versus comp.OregonAggie said:
Econ degree and MBA 10 years after the bachelors. Work in pharma.
I was in sales for 15 years then transitioned to Field Reimbursement. I think one of the quickest ways to get to $200K+ is through sales. I know quite a few IT sales folks and damn they do well.
I see a lot of young Indian men chasing a bag and not learning the skills they need and not staying in jobs long enough to show dedication and make lasting professional connections.TXAGGIES said:
Two last thing I'll add is "Ask For It". Let it be known what role you want in the future. You might get feedback on what to work on or next steps. These days when I mentor I consistently get how someone wants to be promoted but when I press to what role I get "I don't know, what's available "
Number 2, don't chase the dollar chase the role you will enjoy. Money will come eventually. Chasing $$$ could get you in a role you fail in b/c it isn't enjoyable.
I've been a subject matter expert in a nasty area of IT that nobody wants to do.AgLA06 said:
That's because companies and economy have made it almost impossible to work up through a planned progression of increased responsibility.
There's almost an entire generation of individuals who have seen more mini recessions / business crashes than they have seen expansions. Every time I had traction the economy or companies looking to run lean has killed it. I'm class of 2006. Here's the major crashes that killed the industries in which I worked. Housing 2008, O&G 2014/15, Covid 2019, recession now 2024.
So in almost 20 professional working years I've spent 4 times worried about my industry collapsing and being laid off as many times or more than I've had the opportunity to be promoted. In most cases that meant changning industries or career progression to do so.
Now I'm Director level, but it's time to move on from this role as it's been over 5 years and ownership's goals have changed with the craziness of the last 5 years. That's fine, but it means the financial incentives for taking this role are no longer going to happen. I'm running into a lot of exactly what you've said. "What specific roles do you want". The reality is my experience now isn't specific to a role. It's broad experience in increased responsibility in project management and business unit management with an operations focus. So it's been a struggle to get traction on the job search as many next step roles are looking for specific supply chain or manufacturing or IT/technology or finance experience.
I'm glad being niche has worked out for you. I took that approach with my bachelors and first career progression out of school for the exact reasons you mentioned. End result was I painted myself into a corner with nowhere to go for years waiting for someone to retire or growth to open more spots up the ladder. That led to an MBA to get me back out from being wedged in the corner and on a new climb.HollywoodBQ said:
've been a subject matter expert in a nasty area of IT that nobody wants to do.
You need to find something that is really difficult to do and then become an expert at how to do it.
But, the problem is that you might have to move to certain locations or companies where that skill is in demand.
Recently, I've been hiring to support a few particular companies and the choices for work location are Seattle, Kansas City, Denver or New Jersey.
Point here is that you could have the most potential but if you're not willing to leave Texas, you're not going to be able to collect that bag.
For sure.AgLA06 said:I'm glad being niche has worked out for you. I took that approach with my bachelors and first career progression out of school for the exact reasons you mentioned. End result was I painted myself into a corner with nowhere to go for years waiting for someone to retire or growth to open more spots up the ladder. That led to an MBA to get me back out from being wedged in the corner and on a new climb.HollywoodBQ said:
've been a subject matter expert in a nasty area of IT that nobody wants to do.
You need to find something that is really difficult to do and then become an expert at how to do it.
But, the problem is that you might have to move to certain locations or companies where that skill is in demand.
Recently, I've been hiring to support a few particular companies and the choices for work location are Seattle, Kansas City, Denver or New Jersey.
Point here is that you could have the most potential but if you're not willing to leave Texas, you're not going to be able to collect that bag.
We can all give and get advice that has worked for others. The reality I've come to understanding is timing and being in the right place at that perfect timing (some call it luck) is just as important as working hard, being better than others, and doing all the right things. The reality is if I had been born 5 years earlier or gone more general right out of school my progression would have most likely looked a lot different today. Such is life.
HollywoodBQ said:I see a lot of young Indian men chasing a bag and not learning the skills they need and not staying in jobs long enough to show dedication and make lasting professional connections.TXAGGIES said:
Two last thing I'll add is "Ask For It". Let it be known what role you want in the future. You might get feedback on what to work on or next steps. These days when I mentor I consistently get how someone wants to be promoted but when I press to what role I get "I don't know, what's available "
Number 2, don't chase the dollar chase the role you will enjoy. Money will come eventually. Chasing $$$ could get you in a role you fail in b/c it isn't enjoyable.
3rd Platoon said:
Become a subject-matter expert and go into business for yourself as a consultant. That's what I did, and it also opened doors for my free-time to do additional things for income. Besides my business, I also teach classes at two local colleges. I had to have a Master's degree to teach History (which I have), but I don't use my BA for my consulting business.
The corporate world chewed me up and spat me out when the economy turned in 2008. I had a steady climb as I reinvented myself afterward. Life is SO MUCH better when you're your own boss.
I am extremely interested in this. Any places I should look?DRE06 said:
Entry level jobs as an oil and gas pipeline scheduler (coordinating movements of oil through pipelines from point A to point B). Any bachelor degree can get you a job. You'll start really low. Offensively low. Almost as a test to see if you are willing to work hard for cheap just to get to where you are going.
Learn the pipeline business and after 2-3 years in a scheduling role move over to a commercial/business development role negotiating pipeline or storage deals with oil and gas producers to move their oil and gas on your assets of responsibility.
Change companies twice and you'll be $200+ within 6-8 years. With some personal skills and luck you can easily be $350+ within 10 years.
You just have to be willing to start at the bottom. And you need to do it before you are too old for a company to give you a chance at that entry level job.
Downside is you are stuck in Houston or Oklahoma until you retire.
RangerRick9211 said:
You just have to find the right client, make middle management and never, ever climb the ladder.
my wife is a teacher and looking to get out. you got any roles for her? shes 34 and good at everything she does professionallyaw08 said:
educational SAAS product
Not sure what ICP stands for ..
What was your education path? My HS son is very interested in Baylor's insurance/risk managment major. Dad just isnt too interested in the cost of tuition.Seamaster said:
I'd 2nd (or 3rd) commercial insurance underwriting/broking.
Have been underwriting specialist lines commercial insurance and now lead national UW team for a global insurance company and earn…very good money. For an Aggie non lawyer.