Is this a thing? I'm graduating in May and just got my first offer, but I've applied to a few more places and I'm still not sure about going to DFW.
I am usually fine with a day or two, but if the candidate is clearly keeping us as a backup then we will just move on to our second choice.mAgnoliAg said:
Is this a thing? I'm graduating in May and just got my first offer, but I've applied to a few more places and I'm still not sure about going to DFW.
This is terrible advice.williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
Like I said, not the most ethical thing to do, or the best advice. But if a company expects a soon to be college grad, who obviously is in demand, to accept a job offer ASAP (that doesn't start for months) knowing that this in-demand person is likely fielding other offers, then they better make an offer that can't be passed up, or live with the risk of that person not working out. If it's an entry level job, they probably wont feel much pain, and likely have candidates ready to fill in.powerbelly51 said:This is terrible advice.williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
You will 100% burn bridges if you accept an offer and then decline down the road.
I'm always amazed how companies expect 100% loyalty and devotion from the people they offer jobs to while in the same breath would not hesitate to let someone go with no reason or advance notice at all. This double standard is BS.powerbelly51 said:This is terrible advice.williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
You will 100% burn bridges if you accept an offer and then decline down the road.
williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
Congrats and good luck!
I used to work for a company that hired a bunch of new grads knowing they had no work for them only to fire them 2 months later. I later moved on, but that "burned a bridge" for me and I will never work for them again (and yes, they have asked).I Am A Critic said:I'm always amazed how companies expect 100% loyalty and devotion from the people they offer jobs to while in the same breath would not hesitate to let someone go with no reason or advance notice at all. This double standard is BS.powerbelly51 said:This is terrible advice.williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
You will 100% burn bridges if you accept an offer and then decline down the road.
First, how in the heck would guy at company A even know about or talk to friend at B about a random applicant? The odds are so slim, it ain't funny. Doubt they'd ever know on either side to say anything. Unless the candidate was a famous person or something, it's not like they are bringing up all their targets in convos with each other. Hell, most of us don't want to sit around talking about work when we do it all day anyway. Doubt it ever would come up. Doubt there'd ever be any type of connection unless it is a specific industry. But take sales. You might have an offer to sale software, but later get one to sell industrial equipment. Doubt like hell these two companies ever talk to each other. Especially when one is in Dallas and the other is where the OP wants, near the coast.Ag13 said:williamwolf114 said:
How long of an extension were you thinking?
Does the role already have an anticipated start date?
Not the most ethical thing to do, BUT if they want to know ASAP and the start date is pretty far away, you could always accept and still entertain the others. If one of the others work out and is more enticing that the job you accepted, be honest with them. Since it is a "right out of college" job, they'll likely be more understanding, flexible, and expect it (to an extent).
Congrats and good luck!
Wow please don't follow this advice for the sake of your professional reputation and the reputation of A&M graduates. It's beyond not ethical. It could hurt you professionally especially if the job you do accept is in the same industry as the company you screw over. It's a small world out there to be honest. Chances are someone at company A is friends with someone at company B. Plus - the company you reject can give feedback to the career center who can then give feedback to your new employer and the career center will bar you from ever using their services.
Just ask for an extension. As long as it's reasonable I doubt an offer will be yanked over it. You won't be the first person to ever ask for an extension.
Alternatively if a more desirable company that you've already interviewed for is dragging their feet - it's cool to email or call the recruiter and explain what's going on. "You guys are my number one but need to know if I'll know by X date. Otherwise I'll need to ask company B for an extension." Could actually help you if they know you will accept the job when offered.
uneedastraw said:
Capitol ag, you are wrong.
I work for a regional sized company with about 10k employees. I manage a department of 10 employees and about 25 contractors. 1 of my 2 team leaders got fired for an HR issue outside of my comtrol around the time we were going through layoffs. I was not allowed to replace for 4 months. Finally I posted the job and offered a guy about 2 months later. He countered and we accepted for a start date at the beginning of the year which was about a month away.
He did exactly what you suggest and got offered another Job with higher pay a few days before our start date as he had about 4 more weeks to continue looking. So he ended up backing out a few days before our start date.
You can spin it however you want but it's a terrible thing to do to an employer. It was 3 months later before I found a replacement to the replacement leaving the job open for 10 months. Larger companies are still made up of individual employees. I was working 70 hours a week to maintain the department and was worn out. He prolonged my misery by another 4 months with his game playing. I understand he had to do what was best for him but I also will never consider him for another position in the future.
You do what's best for you but don't be fooled into thinking you won't burn a bridge.
It all depends on the industry.Quote:
But if it does, why is that such a big deal? How likely are you to reapply at that company? What are the chances the hiring manager would be the same? What about all the other available companies?
You've worked for more than one company in the same industry yet it's not okay for someone else to do the same?! The double standard continues.powerbelly51 said:
I have seen the same person's resume at two different software companies. It is a long shot, but not nearly and impossibility.
Yep, two companies in the same PE portfolio.I Am A Critic said:You've worked for more than one company in the same industry yet it's not okay for someone else to do the same?! The double standard continues.powerbelly51 said:
I have seen the same person's resume at two different software companies. It is a long shot, but not nearly and impossibility.
Not sure how I am "wrong". It's totally a matter of opinion here. In your particular case, it hurt you. You had to work longer hours, deal with scrutiny etc. Now a few questions: You say he left for a greater salary. Did he not come to you to counter this salary? I could see him at least trying to do that to at least give you an option. More money almost always wins out. So you can't fault him there. The fact is there were probably other factors involved as well to his work/life balance. He might have gotten better benefits like (and not to really focus on the details b/c who knows) working more from home or more vacation or more flexibility to his schedule, a better commute, doing a job he liked more. Whatever. Again, the detail aren't important b/c we all have things that would interest us in different ways. I would suggest to the guy to at least give you the option and be honest. "Hey, things changed. Got an offer that will help me and my family more. But, since I did agree to you originally, is there any chance you can match this? Otherwise I would have to take it instead."That, to me, is a fair way to handle this.uneedastraw said:
Capitol ag, you are wrong.
I work for a regional sized company with about 10k employees. I manage a department of 10 employees and about 25 contractors. 1 of my 2 team leaders got fired for an HR issue outside of my comtrol around the time we were going through layoffs. I was not allowed to replace for 4 months. Finally I posted the job and offered a guy about 2 months later. He countered and we accepted for a start date at the beginning of the year which was about a month away.
He did exactly what you suggest and got offered another Job with higher pay a few days before our start date as he had about 4 more weeks to continue looking. So he ended up backing out a few days before our start date.
You can spin it however you want but it's a terrible thing to do to an employer. It was 3 months later before I found a replacement to the replacement leaving the job open for 10 months. Larger companies are still made up of individual employees. I was working 70 hours a week to maintain the department and was worn out. He prolonged my misery by another 4 months with his game playing. I understand he had to do what was best for him but I also will never consider him for another position in the future.
You do what's best for you but don't be fooled into thinking you won't burn a bridge.