Top 7-10% rules great for neighbor state universities.

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A&M is a top institution in the 2nd largest state, schools like arky, ou, bama, auburn, ole miss, etc… don't have the same alumni base or gravitas. I would assume all of those sec schools with the exception of vandy/Georgia/florida are all mediocre B- schools who care more about football than academics. So of course they would give more money to average talent than A&M would. The only people I knew who received A&M money were valedictorians or salutatorians. Not everybody is special, me included
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not hedge said:

A&M is a top institution in the 2nd largest state, schools like arky, ou, bama, auburn, ole miss, etc… don't have the same alumni base or gravitas. I would assume all of those sec schools with the exception of vandy/Georgia/florida are all mediocre B- schools who care more about football than academics. So of course they would give more talent than A&M would. The only people I knew who received A&M money were valedictorians or salutatorians. Not everybody is special, me included


Do you ever NOT troll threads?

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not hedge
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How is this a troll? Those schools aren't known for academics at all. Do you really think a school like ole miss carries more weight than A&M?
Another Doug
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My kid got offered 45,000 to go to A&M, does that mean she is specialer than you?
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She probably had better grades, so yea
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not hedge said:

How is this a troll? Those schools aren't known for academics at all. Do you really think a school like ole miss carries more weight than A&M?


I'm talking about your very presence on this thread. Come in here acting like a ***** and downing everyone. Not every board is the GB. Not everything needs a smart ass response.
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She didn't , good grades are just for the try hard top 10% losers who have to pay the sticker price and can't even pick their major.
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The entire premise of this thread is "my white upper middle class above average and well rounded but not stellar kid didn't get money to go to A&M, but less desirable schools like arky, ou, bama etc… did give them money, therefore A&M is going down the ****ter" there's even two posts making it about race

"I'll probably get killed for saying this out loud, but the reality is that both UT and A&M are on their way to being filled with with Asian kids, Indian kids and small town kids. They don't want upper middle class white suburban kids. Their policies are targeted at exactly that."

I am basically what their kids were in HS, well rounded great grades, a lot of ECs but I wasn't valedictorian and my parents made too much for me to get scholarship money. The only difference is I'm not white.

I think it's asinine to think your kid deserves money from A&M vs somebody else because out of state schools were trying to attract said child by giving scholarship money. And again all of this boils down to race and socioeconomics for many of the posters on here.
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So what SAT scores?
Another Doug
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not hedge said:

So what SAT scores?
Surely this prestigious institution that is in the top 1/3 in SEC Academics as well as a university that did not see fit to give a great mind like yourself any scholarship money must have very rigorous standards and would not arbitrarily just give a **** ton of money because they scored good on one test.

Why that might mean *gasp* the admission system has flaws and people might want to discuss it on a forum that is free of ****tard trolls.
not hedge
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So you don't have a daughter then, and you're just effing with mean
Another Doug
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not hedge said:

So you don't have a daughter then, and you're just effing with mean
Is that what passes as an insult on the general board these days. No wonder A&M didn't offer money, you are exuding some real Blinn Team energy. I don't care if you want to be a smart ass on a thread, at least be funny. Only thing you have done on this thread is prove without a doubt that the A&M admissions process obviosuly makes some mistakes.
not hedge
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How am i being a smartass, you're the one who brought up having a daughter and saying she got more money than me
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It's time for another flagship school. Strip a third of the PUF from tu, flip them off when they cry, and give it to tceh.

TAMU may be growing at the rate of Texas in general but it is still too much, too fast. Place is a zoo now. It's honestly kinda gross. I am glad I left when I did. The school I fell in love with just 20 years ago is not the one I just graduated from in May. Not 100% bad of course but also not 100% good either. More bad than good By a very large margin.
Texas has effectively been doing this with the other UT schools, essentially copying the UC System. UT Dallas is an outstanding Comp Sci school for instance. UTSA has made huge strides. UT Arlington is solid.

If you account for $ per student by who is eligible for the PUF the distribution between A&M and Texas is basically even. Virtually everything in the UT System qualifies for PUF and they get a ton of cash from it, A&M only has CS, Prairie View, and Tarleton really and they don't spend much on PV or Tarleton as they are tiny with minimal changes over the decades.
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Bump, eye-opening read and sad for those wanting to be Ags. I live in UT and daughter is starting High School this year and is dead set on being an Ag. She is a good student, but not stellar. Seeing how she would need at least $4k+ in scholarships/year from A&M to get in state tuition and how little is given trying to prepare her it wont be the end of the world if she doesn't go to A&M. I realize the ease of transferring in and seems like out of state tuition waivers are much easier to obtain at the smaller system schools like Tarelton and West Texas A&M, but would lose that when transferring to B/CS.

By the way, how desperate is West Texas A&M to have this???
https://www.wtamu.edu/admissions/beat-any-offer.html

Leander - Ag
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This is true. And the neighboring schools let everyone in. They are benefiting from Texas population growth, kids want to go to a known "brand" like OU even through the academics are weak.
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Leander - Ag said:

This is true. And the neighboring schools let everyone in. They are benefiting from Texas population growth, kids want to go to a known "brand" like OU even through the academics are weak.
Fairly similar situation at UGA. The lottery funded Hope and Zell Miller scholarships have made UGA really attractive to Georgia students. Less importantly, so has the football team's recent on-field success. Unlike in Texas, UGA and GA Tech (still a nerd school heavily focused on STEM fields) do not have automatic admits, other than valedictorian and salutatorian. Were it a true meritocracy, both schools would be full of North Atlanta suburban kids and a scattering of other kids from around the state. As it is, UGA in particular seems to try to "spread it around".

I know of a ton of kids whose parents paid way over $20,000/year to send their kids to private schools in Atlanta, only to have their kids rejected from the state's flagship university because their class rank wasn't as high as it would be had they attended a public school or a school in another part of the state. Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, FSU, and South Carolina (and to a lesser degree the Mississippi schools) sop up the ones who don't want to attend another state university and re-apply to UGA after the kids who had no business being accepted fail out. The HOPE scholarship, in addition to the growth of the Georgia population, has been a boon to these schools.
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GoAgs92
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It's fairly obvious the top 10% thing doesn't work.

If it did A&M wouldn't make it so easy to transfer in, those transfers are filling the rolls for the auto admits who left.
 
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