Shooting at an Elementary School in Bend, Oregon

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SuhrThang
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All the kooks in that town should start GoFundme for him… that would be the least they could do.
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SuhrThang said:

All the kooks in that town should start GoFundme for him… that would be the least they could do.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/coming-together-for-the-summer-family

Here's the one the "kooks" started for the 5 year old victim's family.
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We've spent plenty of time in St. Charles for a variety of maladies and can't say enough good about the doctors/surgeons there. Also, the Ronal McDonald house across the parking lot was fantastic when we needed it.
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American Hardwood said:

I think Open Carry just gets rid of concerns people had with semi-visible guns under presumed concealed carry requirements.

That was never a concern in Texas. When Texas had a failing to conceal statute, accidentally showing a bulge, outline, or part of the frame/grip wasn't a crime because the statute required intent. It was just dummies online discussing hypotheticals that didn't understand the law or how it was applied.
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Do SSRIs cause people to commit murder?

Or are severely depressed people more likely to commit murder and take antidepressants.


Depressed people are far more likely to hurt themselves and aren't particularly prone to murdering anybody. The SSRI's that are often cited as a contributor to these mass killings are effective at treating depression, but it's unfair because these murderers are being misdiagnosed with depression as the primary mental health issue and so they're being treated with the wrong medication. Psychiatrists & psychologists often treat patients with mental illness that can't be effectively treated with existing meds (personality disorders, psychopaths, sociopaths, etc.), but have concurrent depression because they're mentally ill and so they're prescribed the SSRI's in hopes of improving their day to day functioning.


TLDR - mentally ill murderers are not committing these crimes because of the SSRI's, but rather because of the underlying mental illness that's contributing to their depression that the SSRI's are attempting to treat
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marcel ledbetter said:

We've spent plenty of time in St. Charles for a variety of maladies and can't say enough good about the doctors/surgeons there. Also, the Ronal McDonald house across the parking lot was fantastic when we needed it.


My dude is a good dude. Sometimes I can't with his debriefs on summits, but he's a solid surgeon. And he has a dude in pre-K. Lots on his mind.
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Kaylub Giamanco was driving home from lunch when he heard gunshots and saw a gunman entering the Oregon elementary school his two young daughters attend.

The 36-year-old carpenter ran into the school and fatally shot the gunman, an act that officials said was heroic and saved lives but he feels guilty that he couldn't save more children, Giamanco's brother, Kyle Giamanco, told NBC News.

The gunman fired a shotgun through the glass panes of double doors to gain access to the school, Bend Police Chief Mike Krantz said Friday. He then entered a classroom immediately to the left and fired as many as 15 shots, Krantz said.

A teacher threw her cellphone at the gunman, and she then tackled him and tried to wrestle the gun away, which also helped save lives, Krantz said.

"She almost certainly helped prevent more bloodshed," he said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/man-confronted-oregon-elementary-school-gunman-identified-brother-rcna603913

As usual, liberals call for more gun control laws after mass shootings, but criminals will always find ways to obtain weapons illegally. Restricting gun ownership for law-abiding citizens won't reduce gun violence.
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agent-maroon said:

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Do SSRIs cause people to commit murder?

Or are severely depressed people more likely to commit murder and take antidepressants.


Depressed people are far more likely to hurt themselves and aren't particularly prone to murdering anybody. The SSRI's that are often cited as a contributor to these mass killings are effective at treating depression, but it's unfair because these murderers are being misdiagnosed with depression as the primary mental health issue and so they're being treated with the wrong medication. Psychiatrists & psychologists often treat patients with mental illness that can't be effectively treated with existing meds (personality disorders, psychopaths, sociopaths, etc.), but have concurrent depression because they're mentally ill and so they're prescribed the SSRI's in hopes of improving their day to day functioning.


TLDR - mentally ill murderers are not committing these crimes because of the SSRI's, but rather because of the underlying mental illness that's contributing to their depression that the SSRI's are attempting to treat


Yeah, that's what I said.

It's a spurious relationship.
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Teacher and Giamanco both heros and should be honored as such.
American Hardwood
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That's why I said presumed. Despite the rules, a lot of hysterical people out there freak out at the mere sight of a gun bulge. Open carry is easily digestible by these panicky goobs in a way that failure to conceal is not.
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Amazing, that special needs teacher had more balls than that coward sheriff in Florida! Not surprising though. Special needs teachers are angels on earth. God bless that man for heading into danger with a pistol and that teacher.
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Soros DA announces indictment of the hero for bringing a gun on campus in 3…2…
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I've seen comments people posted that why did hero gunman have to shoot if he was already down.
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Rapier108 said:

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Twisted teen gunman John J. Griffin II has been pictured for the first time glaring menacingly at the camera since he unleashed a deadly mass shooting at an Oregon elementary school.

Griffin, 16, is seen in the eerie photo posted on Facebook by his mother, Shauntai May Nickerson, on Sept. 10 just over a month before he killed three students, ages 5, 8, and 11, and a teacher at Silver Rail Elementary School on Thursday.

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There, the young gunman stormed toward the special education classroom, where he was once a student.

He was fatally shot by hero dad, Kaylub Giamanco, who saw Griffin enter the building with a gun while driving home for his lunch break.

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The mother and son also appeared in a 2020 article about students in the Bend-La Pine School District's NEST program a specialized program for students experiencing intensive behavioral and social skills challenges returning to the classroom after the COVID-19 pandemic.

Nickerson told KTVZ21 at the time that her 10-year-old son, whom she referred to by the first name "Griffin," was struggling with learning from home.

"I think it will be great for Griffin, because I am not certified teaching a special needs student," Nickerson told the outlet. "And I think it will be great for my son to get the help that he needs from the skilled teachers that he needs to get it from."


https://nypost.com/2026/10/16/us-news/first-photos-of-oregon-school-shooter-john-griffin-revealed/



Where's the father?!
YellAgs
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MsDoubleD81 said:

I've seen comments people posted that why did hero gunman have to shoot if he was already down.
threat not fully neutralized. Heroes.
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-saylor-grahams-recovery

Just here for my peeps. I'm always skeptical of GoFundMe, but this will be an exception.

Also, learned today the teacher that tackled the dude was also shot. Man, what a lady. Just grateful for her and the hero dad.
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The prevalence of SSRI's is alarming though. Had my annual a few weeks ago and mentioned that the ringing in my ears was recently, dramatically worse on one side. First recommendation was to see an ENT. Good advice. Second, almost immediate recommendation, start SSRI. I am hunting for a new GP.
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RangerRick9211 said:

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Slwdsm said:

I live about 100 miles from Bend... saw this story after picking up my kid from preschool today.

First time one of these stories has hit close to home since my kid has started school... I'm going to have to figure out what hoops I need to jump through for a CCL here...

Can't put my self in the shoes of anyone here...

How does a 16yo get so ****ed in the head that they target an elementary school.


Live in Portland, but spend a ton of time in Bend seeing friends, skiing and bike racing. Goal is to move there eventually.

Per buddy who has a Kinder in town. 5, 8 and 11 + a teacher. Possible a special-ed class room, but not sure. Hero saw the guy shoot at a car then walk inside. He followed.

Poor babies.


Confirmed it was the special-ed classroom. 7 year old was in a wheel chair.

Someone started a donation page for the 5 year old's family: https://www.gofundme.com/f/coming-together-for-the-summer-family

Bud feeding me info is my touring partner. He's a general surgeon at St. Charles but didn't see any of the victims. Bend is a big small town. Transplants all move there for hobbies and it's pretty tight knit.

Hit my wife pretty hard even though we don't live there. Bend is our safe happy place. Our escape from Portland's nonsense.

We're at SunRiver for Thanksgiving week for Bach opening. Looking forward to getting back to Central OR.

Last update, then I'm out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv98zw1k8kp3o

Special K teacher wrestled the shooter in the classroom until hero dad showed up. Even more eff'ing impressive.

Keep the shooter in obscurity. I hate the fascination with the first to find the photo here. Homegirl took on an armed dude with a shotgun.


Oh, I said last update. My apologies.

Wife is a NP at OHSU and on shift. They just received the 7 year old wheel chair kid here at her hospital in Portland. He was shot in the face, but survived. Transferred here for treatment. Eff this.


https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-saylor-grahams-recovery

Saylor is at OHSU. She was shot in the face, alive, and my wife attended to her today. Please father God, enable her providers to care and recover her.
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reineraggie09 said:

The prevalence of SSRI's is alarming though. Had my annual a few weeks ago and mentioned that the ringing in my ears was recently, dramatically worse on one side. First recommendation was to see an ENT. Good advice. Second, almost immediate recommendation, start SSRI. I am hunting for a new GP.


This is where you rely on Article 3 Subsection Threeve of the Geneva Conventions, aka "The Smack a Stupid ***** in the Face Clause". Look it up.
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Still nothing about the kid that did the shooting.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
 
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