rgag12 said:
Have always loved Rubio, even when he wasn't en vogue around here.
His biggest hurdle won't be beating a Democrat, it will be winning over the MAGA voter who is skeptical of anything spoken eloquently.
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As many have noted, there appears to be less policy daylight between Vance and Rubio than is commonly thought. Rubio's Acropolis speech embraced nationalism as unapologetically as anything Vance has said, lamenting that "'nationalism' became a dirty word" and declaring that the United States has chosen "the unapologetic pursuit of national power."
The true contrast between the two, should a contest take shape, would be aesthetic. Rubio never deviates from his presentation as the classical statesman, favoring lyricism and the long arc of history.
Vance is a creature of the moment, mixing it up online and most energized when he's picking a fight, as when he told a Lakeland, Florida, rally this month that Democratic Senate candidate Angie Nixon should "get the hell out of here" for calling herself a socialist.
Rubio soars where Vance brawls.
And for a party looking to consolidate its gains among minority and working-class voters, the messenger may ultimately matter just as much as the message.
MAGA is. cult of personality. They'll vote for whoever Trump endorses.ts5641 said:rgag12 said:
Have always loved Rubio, even when he wasn't en vogue around here.
His biggest hurdle won't be beating a Democrat, it will be winning over the MAGA voter who is skeptical of anything spoken eloquently.
That's just not true. Trump hit a spot with a lot of frustrated people with his very direct speech. Don't underestimate MAGA. MAGA are just conservatives who have been awakened to the bull**** corruption of the democrat party.
He's not going to endorse the person that's more likely to win the election. He'll either endorse the person already likely to win the primary or the person that is most likely to bolster himself. Neither of those is an optimal strategy.Im Gipper said:
How is endorsing someone dumb?
Jeeper79 said:Im Gipper said:
How is endorsing someone dumb?
I don't think Trump is going to ride off into the sunset or become a man behind the curtain. He's going to want to stay front and center for as long as possible, and he'll endorse a candidate who he thinks will be deferential to him.
Rex Racer said:Jeeper79 said:Im Gipper said:
How is endorsing someone dumb?
I don't think Trump is going to ride off into the sunset or become a man behind the curtain. He's going to want to stay front and center for as long as possible, and he'll endorse a candidate who he thinks will be deferential to him.
So he's like Obama.
Jeeper79 said:Rex Racer said:Jeeper79 said:Im Gipper said:
How is endorsing someone dumb?
I don't think Trump is going to ride off into the sunset or become a man behind the curtain. He's going to want to stay front and center for as long as possible, and he'll endorse a candidate who he thinks will be deferential to him.
So he's like Obama.
Yes and no. Obama stumps for post-primary candidates, but generally doesn't pick candidates in competitive races, including Biden in the last election. Trump consistently picks candidates based mostly on who will back him up.
Like I said, the man behind the curtain.Gigem314 said:Jeeper79 said:Rex Racer said:Jeeper79 said:Im Gipper said:
How is endorsing someone dumb?
I don't think Trump is going to ride off into the sunset or become a man behind the curtain. He's going to want to stay front and center for as long as possible, and he'll endorse a candidate who he thinks will be deferential to him.
So he's like Obama.
Yes and no. Obama stumps for post-primary candidates, but generally doesn't pick candidates in competitive races, including Biden in the last election. Trump consistently picks candidates based mostly on who will back him up.
Obama just pushes his choices behind the scenes and has the next Democrat cabinet over to his home on a regular basis a few blocks from the White House.
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Like I said, the man behind the curtain.
. Never said they were or weren't. Just discussing the impact on elections. If you have a low approval rating, staying in the shadows seems prudent.Gigem314 said:Quote:
Like I said, the man behind the curtain.
Mean tweets aren't nearly as sinister as the man behind the curtain.
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ts5641 said:rgag12 said:
Have always loved Rubio, even when he wasn't en vogue around here.
His biggest hurdle won't be beating a Democrat, it will be winning over the MAGA voter who is skeptical of anything spoken eloquently.
That's just not true. Trump hit a spot with a lot of frustrated people with his very direct speech. Don't underestimate MAGA. MAGA are just conservatives who have been awakened to the bull**** corruption of the democrat party.
FIDO95 said:🚨 HOLY CRAP MARCO IS UNLEASHED ON THE FAKE NEWS!
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) October 8, 2026
"WAIT a minute. I'm NOT playing this game with you! [...] GET THAT OUT OF YOUR HEAD!"
"NO. That's NOT the way the process is gonna work!"
"You guys are NOT going to be our only source of information in the world. I'm sorry to… pic.twitter.com/ylDDlUwgiM
Rubio wasn't done at the Acropolis. He had some other things to set straight at the airport.
SA68AG said:
Rubio is a better pick than Vance.
Vance is divisive. Rubio has the ability to unite people.
Rubio would easily win the presidency. Vance could easily lose.
SA68AG said:
Rubio is a better pick than Vance.
Vance is divisive. Rubio has the ability to unite people.
Rubio would easily win the presidency. Vance could easily lose.
SA68AG said:
Rubio is a better pick than Vance.
Vance is divisive. Rubio has the ability to unite people.
Rubio would easily win the presidency. Vance could easily lose.
I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Let's revisit this after the mid terms.4 said:Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Jeeper79 said:Let's revisit this after the mid terms.4 said:Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
I'm a Republican. Just not MAGA.texagbeliever said:Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
No way you think your team is going to win next time! Shocking stuff!
Yes and no. The mid terms are a referendum on Trump, same as the next election if the Republican nominee is too close to him.4 said:Jeeper79 said:Let's revisit this after the mid terms.4 said:Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
A nationwide election for the presidency is not the same thing as statewide or local elections.
There's a reason all Democrats tack to the center after they've won their primary...
Jeeper79 said:Yes and no. The mid terms are a referendum on Trump, same as the next election if the Republican nominee is too close to him.4 said:Jeeper79 said:Let's revisit this after the mid terms.4 said:Jeeper79 said:I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
A nationwide election for the presidency is not the same thing as statewide or local elections.
There's a reason all Democrats tack to the center after they've won their primary...
Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
Let's revisit this after the mid terms.
A nationwide election for the presidency is not the same thing as statewide or local elections.
There's a reason all Democrats tack to the center after they've won their primary...
Yes and no. The mid terms are a referendum on Trump, same as the next election if the Republican nominee is too close to him.
Dallas82 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
Let's revisit this after the mid terms.
A nationwide election for the presidency is not the same thing as statewide or local elections.
There's a reason all Democrats tack to the center after they've won their primary...
Yes and no. The mid terms are a referendum on Trump, same as the next election if the Republican nominee is too close to him.
The next election will be a referendum on any Republican who enabled Trump. If you looked the other way every time he did something stupid, unethical, or flat out illegal, your next election will be about that.
Paxton has been caught in private saying that association with Trump was hurting him. You think the same won't be true for the next presidential candidate?samurai_science said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:Jeeper79 said:4 said:
Rubio is so freaking articulate and direct. He really looks and acts like a leader and a uniter.
He wins against ANY dem in a landslide.
And he's extremely likable. Not sure I can say the same for JD, although I have no problem with him
I think Republicans lose the next cycle, regardless. Too much Dem motivation against the current administration.
Not unless they run a true, actual, real life centrist.
If they run any of the people they're talking about right now, they will lose to Mickey mouse.
Let's revisit this after the mid terms.
A nationwide election for the presidency is not the same thing as statewide or local elections.
There's a reason all Democrats tack to the center after they've won their primary...
Yes and no. The mid terms are a referendum on Trump, same as the next election if the Republican nominee is too close to him.
Midterms often go against the president. Its not that deep.
JD Vance defines socialism “in the American context.”
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“I think in reality, what it means in the American context, is that you want to replace American workers with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in girls’ sports.” pic.twitter.com/lgh1u7LTvh
