Biden let in 12+ million illegals

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*most Haitians using TPS came before Biden(*) was potatus, and also from mainly not Haiti but places like Brazil etc.
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It was waaaaay more than 12 million.
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CrackerJackAg said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump has done pretty much all he can, but you'll never be able to roll back the 10+ million illegals who came in. This is why you can never give an inch on securing the border and keeping illegals out. You will never be able to undo it.

Finish the wall Trump


Your insane if you think the wall makes a bit of difference

Majority under Biden came in under asylum claims. They were letting them in through checkpoints.

You are horribly misinformed or willfully ignorant if you think it makes no difference. Get out from behind a computer and talk with real CBP agents who have worked the border. They'll tell you otherwise
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B-1 83 said:

CrackerJackAg said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump has done pretty much all he can, but you'll never be able to roll back the 10+ million illegals who came in. This is why you can never give an inch on securing the border and keeping illegals out. You will never be able to undo it.

Finish the wall Trump


Your insane if you think the wall makes a bit of difference

Majority under Biden came in under asylum claims. They were letting them in through checkpoints.

You are horribly misinformed or willfully ignorant if you think it makes no difference. Get out from behind a computer and talk with real CBP agents who have worked the border. They'll tell you otherwise

Correct, walls have worked since the dawn of time. The poster you quoted is not a fan of history.
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TexAgs91 said:

YouBet said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump has done pretty much all he can, but you'll never be able to roll back the 10+ million illegals who came in. This is why you can never give an inch on securing the border and keeping illegals out. You will never be able to undo it.

Finish the wall Trump


Frankly seems unnecessary. Border crossings went to effectively zero with the wall we already have very quickly after he got back into office.

Maintain what we have, supplement with tech, and continue enforcing the laws we have and we are good.


We're you around during Biden's term*?

Yes. I'm not sure what you are disputing here. The data is there. Border crossings went to nothing very quickly once Trump got back in office because we started enforcing it again.

We did not enforce what we had during Biden.

All I'm saying is the walls we have already work if we also enforce them. A wall by itself doesn't help as much when you have an administration actively funneling illegals into the country through all of our checkpoints plus not enforcing the existing walls.
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CDUB98 said:

Walls work. It is the height of stupidity to believe a physical barrier does not impede progress.

Just because they are not 100% effective, doesn't mean they don't work. It vastly slows down the flow.

To say walls don't work would be the equivalent of saying a dam doesn't hold back the flow of water.

the same clowns repeating that "walls dont work" were the same windowlicking mouthbreathers that were saying that we needed a "new bill" proposed by Biden in an effort to throw the problem back on Republicans that was complete trash and would codify a minimum number of illegals per year before we could start enforcing the border rules.

They were proven 100% wrong (again, like most of their ret@rded ideas) the first few months of Trump's second turn. Do not listen to their nonsense.
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Let's not overlook the fact that Ronald Reagan bears blame for the amnesty granted by the Simpson Mazoli Act. He was a great president but that was a huge mistake.

So, I concur with the statement expressed above to never give an inch on enforcing immigration laws and sovereignty over the border. All of the sad stories and personal tragedy that result from parents being depressed and anchor baby children being separated from parents or also being deported is the fault of their parents, not the government or native born citizens.

Being granted legal residency in the US should be treated by the recipient as a huge privilege and should always be a net economic benefit to the US. Being born in the US should be understood as a golden ticket in the birth lottery. That should be taught and reinforced in public school at every grade level.
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YouBet said:

Yes. I'm not sure what you are disputing here. The data is there. Border crossings went to nothing very quickly once Trump got back in office because we started enforcing it again.

We did not enforce what we had during Biden.



A wall acts as a deterrent whether there's a commie in office enforcing our borders or not. Note: I didn't say it's THE solution. I said a deterrent.


YouBet said:

All I'm saying is the walls we have already work if we also enforce them. A wall by itself doesn't help as much when you have an administration actively funneling illegals into the country through all of our checkpoints plus not enforcing the existing walls.


Yes, Mayorkas routed them through checkpoints. There were also millions more flooding through open borders where there was no wall.
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It allowed 5,000 illegals per day.

Thats 1.825 Mm per year. And of course, that wouldn't count "asylum seekers," people they flew in, legal immigrants, or any other category they would put them in.

And honestly, why would they stick to that framework? They were already ignoring the law and gaslighting us.
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TexAgs91 said:

YouBet said:

Yes. I'm not sure what you are disputing here. The data is there. Border crossings went to nothing very quickly once Trump got back in office because we started enforcing it again.

We did not enforce what we had during Biden.



A wall acts as a deterrent whether there's a commie in office enforcing our borders or not. Note: I didn't say it's THE solution. I said a deterrent.


YouBet said:

All I'm saying is the walls we have already work if we also enforce them. A wall by itself doesn't help as much when you have an administration actively funneling illegals into the country through all of our checkpoints plus not enforcing the existing walls.


Yes, Mayorkas routed them through checkpoints. There were also millions more flooding through open borders where there was no wall.


Ok? So we agree then. I'm still not sure what you were disputing.
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Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.
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TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.

No one is getting in right now. Why spend the money when everything we already have is working? No one is streaming through in Big Bend. If they want to try, then good luck.
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Big Bend isn't any more harsh than most of the border from there west and they flooded in.
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jja79 said:

Big Bend isn't any more harsh than most of the border from there west and they flooded in.

That's news to alot of us then.
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TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.


A single opening - the width of a 36 inch door - could allow in 100,000 people per day; 1 million in 10 days. In 1 year, that is 35 million.

The Dems will work with the illegals and the Mexican government to destroy and compromise whatever physical barriers are put in place. The Dems took Texas to court when Abbott deployed those buoys in the river! The Dems cut razor wire put up by Abbott to prevent the invasion.


Walls DO work.... only when the government wants them to work!
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nortex97 said:


*most Haitians using TPS came before Biden(*) was potatus, and also from mainly not Haiti but places like Brazil etc.

That is awesome. I've never seen that before. I guess it didn't get much traction in Australia where I was living at the time (2018). Thank God for the Internet.

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The easiest thing is the thing that should have been done immediately…..shut off every service and every freebie that illegals receive. If this hasn't been done 100% already, why is that?
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Ulysses90 said:

Let's not overlook the fact that Ronald Reagan bears blame for the amnesty granted by the Simpson Mazoli Act. He was a great president but that was a huge mistake.

If I recall correctly he did that in exchange for some promise from the Dems that they promptly reneged on, proving yet again that Democrats are and have always been liars that cannot be trusted.
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Logos Stick said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.


A single opening - the width of a 36 inch door - could allow in 100,000 people per day; 1 million in 10 days. In 1 year, that is 35 million.

The Dems will work with the illegals and the Mexican government to destroy and compromise whatever physical barriers are put in place. The Dems took Texas to court when Abbott deployed those buoys in the river! The Dems cut razor wire put up by Abbott to prevent the invasion.


Walls DO work.... only when the government wants them to work!

Come on... You don't think 100,000 people coming through a 36 inch door in the wall per day would be noticed? You don't think it would be so glaringly bad that even marxists would have to stop it?
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TexAgs91 said:

Logos Stick said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.


A single opening - the width of a 36 inch door - could allow in 100,000 people per day; 1 million in 10 days. In 1 year, that is 35 million.

The Dems will work with the illegals and the Mexican government to destroy and compromise whatever physical barriers are put in place. The Dems took Texas to court when Abbott deployed those buoys in the river! The Dems cut razor wire put up by Abbott to prevent the invasion.


Walls DO work.... only when the government wants them to work!

Come on... You don't think 100,000 people coming through a 36 inch door in the wall per day would be noticed? You don't think it would be so glaringly bad that even marxists would have to stop it?


You do realize that they were stopped before and simply said "asylum".

eta: its like I'm taking crazy pills. People believe that the Dems will not allow illegals to flood the country if we build a wall, despite what happened during Biden's tenure.
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TheCurl84 said:

The easiest thing is the thing that should have been done immediately…..shut off every service and every freebie that illegals receive. If this hasn't been done 100% already, why is that?


Democrats in the House and Senate
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Slicer97 said:

Ulysses90 said:

Let's not overlook the fact that Ronald Reagan bears blame for the amnesty granted by the Simpson Mazoli Act. He was a great president but that was a huge mistake.

If I recall correctly he did that in exchange for some promise from the Dems that they promptly reneged on, proving yet again that Democrats are and have always been liars that cannot be trusted.


Reagan violated his own doctrine of "Trust but Verify" when it came to the Simpson Mazoli Act.
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YouBet said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.

No one is getting in right now. Why spend the money when everything we already have is working? No one is streaming through in Big Bend. If they want to try, then good luck.


Obstacles maximize the effectiveness of security force manpower. A decent wall with a half dozen CBP agents monitoring cameras can replace 100 agents patrolling on foot or in vehicles. Obstacles are an "economy of force" measure.
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The Autopen administration admitted to 11-12 million illegal aliens entering during his advisors administration, so you know the real number was double.

Imagine the public knowing the real number - there would have been a slaughter at the ballot box so big that the mail in fraud would have been completely immaterial.
You can't fix stupid.
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jja79 said:

Big Bend isn't any more harsh than most of the border from there west and they flooded in.


Clueless.
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Nope. By today's standards, Reagan was fairly liberal on immigration. In 1981, well before Simpson-Mazzoli passed in 1986, he explicitly supported legalizing illegal immigrants already in the country. Amnesty wasn't something Democrats got him to do - it was already his position.

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/statement-united-states-immigration-and-refugee-policy
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Ulysses90 said:

YouBet said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.

No one is getting in right now. Why spend the money when everything we already have is working? No one is streaming through in Big Bend. If they want to try, then good luck.


Obstacles maximize the effectiveness of security force manpower. A decent wall with a half dozen CBP agents monitoring cameras can replace 100 agents patrolling on foot or in vehicles. Obstacles are an "economy of force" measure.

In my best John "Shrek" McPhee - Sheriff of Baghdad voice - "It's like the Army wrote a manual about it, you know what I mean?"

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/5-102/
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Ulysses90 said:

YouBet said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump needs to finish the wall for the reasons I listed above.

No one is getting in right now. Why spend the money when everything we already have is working? No one is streaming through in Big Bend. If they want to try, then good luck.


Obstacles maximize the effectiveness of security force manpower. A decent wall with a half dozen CBP agents monitoring cameras can replace 100 agents patrolling on foot or in vehicles. Obstacles are an "economy of force" measure.

Agreed.
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When I grew up north of Big Bend I thought seeing Border Patrol helicopters, trucks and vans was normal because it was.
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ETFan said:

jja79 said:

Big Bend isn't any more harsh than most of the border from there west and they flooded in.


Clueless.


How long have you lived in the Big Bend area or along the border from there west?
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doubledog
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The Biden and his goonies saw it as +12million democratic voters.
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CrackerJackAg said:

TexAgs91 said:

Trump has done pretty much all he can, but you'll never be able to roll back the 10+ million illegals who came in. This is why you can never give an inch on securing the border and keeping illegals out. You will never be able to undo it.

Finish the wall Trump


Your insane if you think the wall makes a bit of difference

Majority under Biden came in under asylum claims. They were letting them in through checkpoints.

Do you even know what is the definition of insanity? FFS.

Asylum claims. Is that what my eyes saw while those ****ers were wading around and climbing over walls?

Asylum claims. **** me.
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This is what Paxton needs to hit hard. Going with a dem means this starts back again. Texans don't want it. Keep hammering this message! It was THE winning issue for Trump.
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jja79 said:

ETFan said:

jja79 said:

Big Bend isn't any more harsh than most of the border from there west and they flooded in.


Clueless.


How long have you lived in the Big Bend area or along the border from there west?


Having hiked across the entirety of Big Bend on foot for days on end, Id say I know how inhospitable that area is, versus others?
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