Trump Removing H4 Work Permit (H1B Spouses)

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9:08a, 8/29/26
This is news from 8/28 (Fri). Trump is on a roll. This is huge!

Background.
H1B means the foreign person getting the visa could work in the US. It used to usually be the husband. What about the wives? They'd sit at home, socialize, volunteer maybe. But idiot Obama wanted to kiss ass and opened it up with an H4 EAD visa in 2015 allowing H1B spouses to work. This opened the floodgates of millions of Indian wives (mainly from Hyderabad) taking up jobs as their networks are strong and everyone would hire their friend's wives, effectively shutting out Americans from the job pool.

Trump is now working reversing it. It isn't final yet, but the wheels are moving and H1B/H4s are running scared. Congress did not put this in so they are not needed to remove it. Why it took so long is anyone's guess.

When this is implemented, H1B spouses have to stop working. That might cause them to leave the country with their H1B spouses or go back to being "stay at home". They may go to school but that is a different process. House prices will crash in H1B rich areas.

Enjoy. 100s of 1000s of jobs are opening up for Americans in the next year.



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9:21a, 8/29/26
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9:22a, 8/29/26
What fing took so long ?
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In reply to samurai_science • 9:26a, 8/29/26
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samurai_science said:
What fing took so long ?

Makes you wonder what other BS executive orders Obama and Biden (really Obama) are still active that need to be revoked. You would think they would just revoke all of them and them reinstate the very few that were positive.
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9:32a, 8/29/26
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In before some random federal judge
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9:36a, 8/29/26
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In reply to samurai_science • 9:44a, 8/29/26
samurai_science said:
What fing took so long ?

I'd ask Trump 1.0 back in 2016.

Honestly, though, I think it's to "rile up his base" so that they get out and vote for whatever candidate has an R by their name in a few months.

Still, this is something that should have never existed in the first place, Trump should have done in 2016, but Good Trump for at least doing it now.

I'm sure the next potus will put it back in, but at least for a couple of years it can at least make a needed change.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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9:45a, 8/29/26
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Yeah, what took so long?
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In reply to infinity ag • 9:55a, 8/29/26
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Yeah I put that on the main visa crackdown thread yesterday. It's great news (assuming it's published monday).
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H-4 EAD is derivative: the spouse must hold valid H-4 status tied to a current H-1B principal who either has an approved I-140 or has received an AC21 extension past the six-year limit, so a revoked, withdrawn, or invalid H-1B typically ends both H-4 status and work authorization.

uscis.gov

USCIS can revoke an H-1B petition for fraud, material misrepresentation, or because it no longer meets specialty-occupation or employer-employee standards, and revocation can be treated as if the petition should never have been approved; that finding generally collapses the dependent H-4 EAD as well.


Executive branch has a lot of power over this stuff, in reality but we also need real legislative changes which is why we must win the mid terms and get a new senate majority leader who will nuke the filibuster (technically schumer would anyway but not for anything good).
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In reply to No Spin Ag • 10:01a, 8/29/26
No Spin Ag said:
samurai_science said:
What fing took so long ?

I'd ask Trump 1.0 back in 2016.

Honestly, though, I think it's to "rile up his base" so that they get out and vote for whatever candidate has an R by their name in a few months.

Still, this is something that should have never existed in the first place, Trump should have done in 2016, but Good Trump for at least doing it now.

I'm sure the next potus will put it back in, but at least for a couple of years it can at least make a needed change.


The environment is so vitiated against these visas that the next Dem POTUS will not want to take the risk. The few Congressmen who are talking about "we need to open up more" are getting shouted out and the now prefer to shut up. Many have lost already like Raja Krishnamurty of Illinois.

To be honest, I think even most Dems want these visas gone. But they cannot openly say so. So they create some benign ruckus when Trump removes them and then go back to their homes letting Trump have his way.

Social media is very powerful in rallying the troops and no politician wants to risk pissing people off on social media.
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10:07a, 8/29/26
Didn't the SC prevent Trump's EO ending DACA that was started by Barry's EO?

I guess 30% chance of more SC tom-foolery on this. But, it needs more visibility.
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In reply to infinity ag • 10:08a, 8/29/26
infinity ag said:
No Spin Ag said:
samurai_science said:
What fing took so long ?

I'd ask Trump 1.0 back in 2016.

Honestly, though, I think it's to "rile up his base" so that they get out and vote for whatever candidate has an R by their name in a few months.

Still, this is something that should have never existed in the first place, Trump should have done in 2016, but Good Trump for at least doing it now.

I'm sure the next potus will put it back in, but at least for a couple of years it can at least make a needed change.


The environment is so vitiated against these visas that the next Dem POTUS will not want to take the risk. The few Congressmen who are talking about "we need to open up more" are getting shouted out and the now prefer to shut up. Many have lost already like Raja Krishnamurty of Illinois.

To be honest, I think even most Dems want these visas gone. But they cannot openly say so. So they create some benign ruckus when Trump removes them and then go back to their homes letting Trump have his way.

Social media is very powerful in rallying the troops and no politician wants to risk pissing people off on social media.

Good points.

Now that you mention it, I can see this as one of those issues that might even be forgotten about because it affects so relatively few people.

Plus, even if the economy is better by that election, and I do believe it will be, the talk and push will be to take care of our people first and foremost by both sides, the right more so, of course.

Great response. Thanks for helping me see that view.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to infinity ag • 9:14a, 8/30/26
Another very good Trump!
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In reply to K2Ag97 • 9:30a, 8/30/26
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K2Ag97 said:
Didn't the SC prevent Trump's EO ending DACA that was started by Barry's EO?

I guess 30% chance of more SC tom-foolery on this. But, it needs more visibility.


Ironically, John Roberts was the deciding vote that gave executive orders this much power in the first place. The ultimate result is that winning at all costs is now the norm because parties no longer have to work together to pass actual legislation.
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10:34a, 8/30/26
Funnily, I don't even remember Obama's 2015 EO about this. Maybe because I wasn't aware of all these visas and because jobs were aplenty so I didnt care. Most were like this.

My question is, why didn't a judge strike it down? Compare with some judge jumping on anything Trump does via EO.
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In reply to FIDO*98* • 2:31p, 8/30/26
FIDO*98* said:
K2Ag97 said:
Didn't the SC prevent Trump's EO ending DACA that was started by Barry's EO?

I guess 30% chance of more SC tom-foolery on this. But, it needs more visibility.


Ironically, John Roberts was the deciding vote that gave executive orders this much power in the first place. The ultimate result is that winning at all costs is now the norm because parties no longer have to work together to pass actual legislation.

When they do its gems such as the Patriot Act
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3:11p, 8/30/26
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How many other laws are being ignored by our lawmakers?
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3:15p, 8/30/26
Saw an article a couple of days ago that said Dallas ISD employs over 800 H1b visa holders. That means that someone in the administration pinky-swore that there were no American citizens available and capable of filling any of those jobs.
Huh? Does anyone know an unemployed teacher in North America? What in the actual hell?
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In reply to AGROAg88 • 3:23p, 8/30/26
AGROAg88 said:
Saw an article a couple of days ago that said Dallas ISD employs over 800 H1b visa holders. That means that someone in the administration pinky-swore that there were no American citizens available and capable of filling any of those jobs.
Huh? Does anyone know an unemployed teacher in North America? What in the actual hell?


There was a revelation on twitter that there is NO requirement that a check be done to find out if an American citizen was available.

It that is true, our pols tricked us.

Added Later.

I asked AI (Gemini). No such requirement.




Also:
Fact Sheet #62O: Must an H-1B employer recruit U.S. workers before seeking H-1B workers?
https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/62o-h1b-recruitment

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The H-1B employer is not required to recruit U.S. workers, unless it is H-1B dependent (see WH Fact Sheet #62C) or a previous willful violator of H-1B requirements (see WH Fact Sheet #62S).
Such employers must take good faith steps to recruit U.S. workers for any job for which they seek H-1B workers.


"good faith" ha ha. Not while dealing with low trust people and societies.
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11:29a, 8/31/26
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This was proposed during the first Trump admin too, and the rule never went into effect.
FWIW, not all H4Bs can work. Only those who's spouses have started the process for a Green Card
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1:27p, 8/31/26
Hopefully this time it will
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