Trump orders flags to half mast for Dolly Parton

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We find the damndest things to argue about on TA's
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waitwhat? said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/25/trump-flags-lowered-dolly-parton-dies/91460878007/

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President Donald Trump said he's ordered U.S. flags to be lowered across the country in honor of the late iconic country music star Dolly Parton, who died at 80 years old.

Trump, in a Truth Social post shortly after Parton's death was announced, said he directed American flags to be lowered for the next week beginning at 6 p.m. ET on Aug. 25.


Honestly, this is just ridiculous. This trend of constantly putting flags at half mast any time a government official or politician died was bad enough without now doing it when celebrities die.

Just leave the flags at half mast year round at this point.


I would like you to name 100 people who have done more for America than Dolly. The amount of philanthropy she has done is tremendous. Every student in the state of Tennessee gets a book from her foundation every year. She has donated hundreds of millions of dollars specifically targeting literacy and has done so quietly. Just calling her a celebrity is exceedingly short sighted. She isn't some instagram influencer. She is a true American hero and we were lucky to see it with our own eyes.
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reineraggie09 said:

waitwhat? said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/08/25/trump-flags-lowered-dolly-parton-dies/91460878007/

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President Donald Trump said he's ordered U.S. flags to be lowered across the country in honor of the late iconic country music star Dolly Parton, who died at 80 years old.

Trump, in a Truth Social post shortly after Parton's death was announced, said he directed American flags to be lowered for the next week beginning at 6 p.m. ET on Aug. 25.


Honestly, this is just ridiculous. This trend of constantly putting flags at half mast any time a government official or politician died was bad enough without now doing it when celebrities die.

Just leave the flags at half mast year round at this point.


I would like you to name 100 people who have done more for America than Dolly. The amount of philanthropy she has done is tremendous. Every student in the state of Tennessee gets a book from her foundation every year. She has donated hundreds of millions of dollars specifically targeting literacy and has done so quietly. Just calling her a celebrity is exceedingly short sighted. She isn't some instagram influencer. She is a true American hero and we were lucky to see it with our own eyes.


I'd argue she's done more for Americans on a practical level than some presidents.

-She produced countless movies, TV shows, and projects through her Sand Dollar production company (she partially financed Buffy the Vampire Slayer)

-The Imagination Library

-Literally paid to rebuild Eastern TN after devastating wildfire

-Funded thousands of dollars in medical research

-Paid the college tuition of any employee at Dollywood no matter how small a role they had.

-Asked no one build a statue in her honor until she had passed

-Turned down the Presidential Medal of Freedom twice from Trump and again from Biden. Because she had initially declined when Trump offered she thought not would appear political of she accepted it from Biden


I admit I am very much biased in favor of Dolly, she changed my family's life in so many ways big and small. But as far as role models go I can't think of a better one. If anyone deserves flags at have staff it's her.
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My staff and I talked about it today for sure she has done more for America than Biden.
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Just name a ship after her already. It's the right thing to do.
















I love Dolly.
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nai06 said:



-Asked no one build a statue in her honor until she had passed

Unfortunately already happened. In Seviereville, not very far from Pigeon Forge. Looks to date back forty years.

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At his age, I'm not sure Trump can get it to half mast, even for Dolly
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Stumbled on this tweet. Find it fitting.

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I'm amazed at how many people don't understand that the OP has nothing against Dolly, nor does he dispute that she is worthy of respect and honor.

He disagrees with the manner (the flags) and he is correct

All of you citing Dolly's achievements and merits are missing the point
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Respectfully, you and the OP are missing the point by thinking this is happening just because she's a "celebrity."


She's an American treasure. Her death hurt millions that never met her.

The honor is well deserved.

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Secolobo said:

AGHouston11 said:

Bad precedent for future presidents. I can only imagine some of the future honorees.

Whatever...

Biden orders flags to half-staff as US records 1 million COVID deaths

Obama has ordered flags at half-staff more than any president in history


Yes both idiots for doing so.

But when the next like minded idiot is in and does this for say someone like the idiot Bad Bunny just make sure there are not complaints because this is a good thing as being said.

I just don't think it should be something done like it's currently and has in the recent past.. It's at this point lost all of its true significance.
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CanyonAg77 said:

I'm amazed at how many people don't understand that the OP has nothing against Dolly, nor does he dispute that she is worthy of respect and honor.

He disagrees with the manner (the flags) and he is correct

All of you citing Dolly's achievements and merits are missing the point

dude the white house was draped in a the gay flag under the last administration this is a huge nothing burger...let it go
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Im Gipper said:

Respectfully, you and the OP are missing the point by thinking this is happening just because she's a "celebrity."


She's an American treasure. Her death hurt millions that never met her.

The honor is well deserved.


You are missing the point. Half staff is not for a celebrity, or even "an American Treasure". It's not because millions of people are upset over a death, It's also not for COVID victims, school shooting victims, or any other cause de jour reasons a President thinks will garner him votes.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml

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The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, or the death of a first responder working in any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving in the line of duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia, members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia, and first responders working in the District of Columbia. When the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, or the Mayor of the District of Columbia, issues a proclamation under the preceding sentence that the National flag be flown at half-staff in that State, territory, or possession or in the District of Columbia because of the death of a member of the Armed Forces, the National flag flown at any Federal installation or facility in the area covered by that proclamation shall be flown at half-staff consistent with that proclamation. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection
(1) the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
(2) the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5;
(3) the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico; and
(4) the term "first responder" means a "public safety officer" as defined in section 1204 of title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (34 U.S.C. 10284).

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Democracy is ruined!
Im Gipper
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I understand you and the OP's "point" just fine.

Here's his words:

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was bad enough without now doing it when celebrities die.



She's more than a celebrity. Sorry you don't get it. From the blue star count, far more understand that than agree with the OP.


This has nothing to do with getting votes. Where are you even getting that nonsense?


Oh, and be sure to let Trump know the head of the executive branch can't tell his employees how to fly a flag. Maybe someone can go get an injunction.

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Sigh,

I never said anything negative about Dolly, or the reason people think she should be honored. If you think that is my point of contention, you are being willfully ignorant, combative, or both.

There are reasons that honors are given with the flag. There are regulations about who can be honored.

Both have been ignored and used for political ends by both parties.

This has lead to the honor being diluted to the point of meaninglessness.

If you want it to be a participation trophy, well, you be you. I'd like for it to remain a seldom used honor.



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CanyonAg77 said:

Im Gipper said:

Respectfully, you and the OP are missing the point by thinking this is happening just because she's a "celebrity."


She's an American treasure. Her death hurt millions that never met her.

The honor is well deserved.


You are missing the point. Half staff is not for a celebrity, or even "an American Treasure". It's not because millions of people are upset over a death, It's also not for COVID victims, school shooting victims, or any other cause de jour reasons a President thinks will garner him votes.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml

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The flag, when flown at half-staff, should be first hoisted to the peak for an instant and then lowered to the half-staff position. The flag should be again raised to the peak before it is lowered for the day. On Memorial Day the flag should be displayed at half-staff until noon only, then raised to the top of the staff. By order of the President, the flag shall be flown at half-staff upon the death of principal figures of the United States Government and the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, as a mark of respect to their memory. In the event of the death of other officials or foreign dignitaries, the flag is to be displayed at half-staff according to Presidential instructions or orders, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law. In the event of the death of a present or former official of the government of any State, territory, or possession of the United States, the death of a member of the Armed Forces from any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving on active duty, or the death of a first responder working in any State, territory, or possession who dies while serving in the line of duty, the Governor of that State, territory, or possession may proclaim that the National flag shall be flown at half-staff, and the same authority is provided to the Mayor of the District of Columbia with respect to present or former officials of the District of Columbia, members of the Armed Forces from the District of Columbia, and first responders working in the District of Columbia. When the Governor of a State, territory, or possession, or the Mayor of the District of Columbia, issues a proclamation under the preceding sentence that the National flag be flown at half-staff in that State, territory, or possession or in the District of Columbia because of the death of a member of the Armed Forces, the National flag flown at any Federal installation or facility in the area covered by that proclamation shall be flown at half-staff consistent with that proclamation. The flag shall be flown at half-staff 30 days from the death of the President or a former President; 10 days from the day of death of the Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives; from the day of death until interment of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a Secretary of an executive or military department, a former Vice President, or the Governor of a State, territory, or possession; and on the day of death and the following day for a Member of Congress. The flag shall be flown at half-staff on Peace Officers Memorial Day, unless that day is also Armed Forces Day. As used in this subsection
(1) the term "half-staff" means the position of the flag when it is one-half the distance between the top and bottom of the staff;
(2) the term "executive or military department" means any agency listed under sections 101 and 102 of title 5;
(3) the term "Member of Congress" means a Senator, a Representative, a Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from Puerto Rico; and
(4) the term "first responder" means a "public safety officer" as defined in section 1204 of title I of the Omnibus Crime Control and Safe Streets Act of 1968 (34 U.S.C. 10284).



Except this isn't the law currently. Congress passed a law in 1998 that basically says the President can do it at any time for however long for whatever reason. Don't like it? Tell Congress to get off their ass and repeal it to revert to that law you quoted.
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JamesPShelley said:

Just name a ship after her already. It's the right thing to do.


I love Dolly.


I say we name the next Atlantic Tropical Storm after her.
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Dolly was a national treasure. She earned this level of respect.
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dmart90 said:

Dolly was a national treasure. She earned this level of respect.


So did Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, John Madden, and Arnold Palmer.
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94chem said:

dmart90 said:

Dolly was a national treasure. She earned this level of respect.


So did Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, John Madden, and Arnold Palmer.


I'd put her well about all of those
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When a Democrat politician or just a run of the mill big mouth democrat croaks, we can leave the flags at full staff to make up for the lowering of the flags for the Dolly Parton's of the country.
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One of the few times I flat out disagree with something Trump and or Abbott have done. Very tricky and slippery slope here.
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BMX Bandit said:

i find you being bothered by this ridiculous

she was an amazing American figure, universally loved. the honor is appropriate.

She is but where does it end? The next time a beloved black entertainer dies and if the flags aren't lowered, oh lordy the racism cries will be from the mountain tops.
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BBQ said:

Of all things in this FU world to get "dusted up" about, this is about as low on the scale as one could get IMHO. You must live in a utopian universe for this to make the cut.



It's a topic for discussion. Nobody thinks this is the end of humanity. It's just a slippery slope to do this with entertainers. It will quickly get out of hand. The lowering of the flag will be eventually rendered meaningless.
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ts5641 said:

BMX Bandit said:

i find you being bothered by this ridiculous

she was an amazing American figure, universally loved. the honor is appropriate.

She is but where does it end? The next time a beloved black entertainer dies and if the flags aren't lowered, oh lordy the racism cries will be from the mountain tops.


the idea that because this happened for her it must now be accepted for anyone is beyond absurd.

there may be unfounded cries of racism?? Oh no!! Whatever shall we do?? How will we survive!

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ts5641 said:

BMX Bandit said:

i find you being bothered by this ridiculous

she was an amazing American figure, universally loved. the honor is appropriate.

She is but where does it end? The next time a beloved black entertainer dies and if the flags aren't lowered, oh lordy the racism cries will be from the mountain tops.


I liked Charlie Pride better than Dolly.
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nai06 said:

94chem said:

dmart90 said:

Dolly was a national treasure. She earned this level of respect.


So did Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, John Madden, and Arnold Palmer.


I'd put her well about all of those


Yeah, nobody ever went out to put the "Hank Aaron's" over the faucets before a hard freeze.
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It already is…. Thats is my point

It just seemed to me the OP was getting "worked up" about water under the bridge.

Like you said, topic for discussion and that is what I think Im doing?
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Well then. Buy you a flag and flag pole and fly it at half staff, provided you are on land, if you're on a boat you gotta call it half mast or the flag police will arrest you for not doing it right.
Then you can fly it commemorating his passing each year. It would be your flag on your property and you can fly it however and whenever you want.
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George Floyd had half staff treatment. The republic is lost.

Charlie Kirk had half staff treatment. The republic is lost.

Jesse Jackson had half staff treatment. The republic is lost.

Yay! First world problems.
 
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