You know it is bad (and good for America) when immigration lawyers (who make a lot of money from this racket) start complaining.

Trump's strategy seems to be to not cancel anything and leave everything available but make it impossible to do anything rendering it useless.

It is time that foreigners stopped thinking that the US was their country and stop behaving like citizens. This has gone on for far too long.

CURRENT F-1 students: the biggest risk under the new DHS rule isn't a form or a fee.

It's booking a flight home.

"Duration of status" is being replaced with a fixed I-94 date (effective ~Sept 15, 2026). If you're already here and maintaining status, you're generally protected…

— Emily Neumann (@immigrationgirl) July 16, 2026

It should be guided by whatever program the student is studying and a reasonable time to finish that program. There should be a streamlined process renew the visa if starting a new program, like graduating with a bachelor's and starting in a grad program.

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Students from India, China and South Korea are expected to be hardest hit by the rule change.

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First time this statement has not said minorities and women hardest hit.

I welcome the rule change. You shouldn't be able to study forever and stay here. Get your schooling done and GTFO. Depending on who you are, you shouldn't be here in the first place, frankly.

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I welcome it as well but the total number of foreign students needs to be slashed much more and we shouldn't be allowing Chinese kids to come here at all. Period.

American kids should not have to compete against foreigners for limited spots in the best universities and colleges.

Texas and Texas A&M are state universities of Texas. Competition among fellow Texans is tough. Even harder with out of state kids added in. Foreigners? F that.

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I don't know how seats are allocated now, but there should be no more than x% foreign students in a university. In a state Univ, is should be fewer as US citizens and residents pay for it.

Maybe the number is 10% capped.

It is not my job or responsibility to educate foreigners. Regardless of how "talented" they are.

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They're lucky to even be allowed to come here so I don't give a rat ass what they don't like. They can ***** all they want.

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Usually it is Americans beaching. The ones who make money from this like lawyers, real estate builders, universities, corps...

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This is good news.

Student visa reform is an issue I worked on when I was working for a member of Congress years ago, but he wasn't able to get a reform bill moving on it. It's about time some forward progress happened. It is remarkable how many people on student visas maintain just enough hours at a cheap community college to keep their status going. If American citizens get threatened with out-of state tuition rates or other penalties if they don't get a degree within a specific period of time, there is no reason we can't place reasonable demands on student visa holders to complete their academic programs within a specific period of time.

I like this. Students can reapply, but at least they have to show the they're actually working on what they're here for.

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I welcome the rule change. You shouldn't be able to study forever and stay here. Get your schooling done and GTFO. Depending on who you are, you shouldn't be here in the first place, frankly.

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I welcome it as well but the total number of foreign students needs to be slashed much more and we shouldn't be allowing Chinese kids to come here at all. Period.

American kids should not have to compete against foreigners for limited spots in the best universities and colleges.

Texas and Texas A&M are state universities of Texas. Competition among fellow Texans is tough. Even harder with out of state kids added in. Foreigners? F that.

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One million percent agree which is why Trump caving to Xi and letting in half a million Chinese students pisses me off. Stupid Trump on that.

I don't understand immigration rules very well but I follow Emily and this is what she just posted.
She says if students leave the country in the middle of their program, they may not be able to come back.

Grad students now need to come in to learn a field and stick with it. No coming in for Biology and switch to Computer Science just cuz.

Now I don't think that is fair, but then what is fair? Americans have not been treated fair in decades.
It looks like Trump is keeping this process vague to scare off people from coming here.

And yes, I voted for this.

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Students from India, China and South Korea are expected to be hardest hit by the rule change.

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I welcome it as well but the total number of foreign students needs to be slashed much more and we shouldn't be allowing Chinese kids to come here at all. Period.

American kids should not have to compete against foreigners for limited spots in the best universities and colleges.

Texas and Texas A&M are state universities of Texas. Competition among fellow Texans is tough. Even harder with out of state kids added in. Foreigners? F that.

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One million percent agree which is why Trump caving to Xi and letting in half a million Chinese students pisses me off. Stupid Trump on that.

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Saying and doing are different things.
I don't see 1M Chinese kids here. I see many more Indian kids here.

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I welcome it as well but the total number of foreign students needs to be slashed much more and we shouldn't be allowing Chinese kids to come here at all. Period.

American kids should not have to compete against foreigners for limited spots in the best universities and colleges.

Texas and Texas A&M are state universities of Texas. Competition among fellow Texans is tough. Even harder with out of state kids added in. Foreigners? F that.

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One million percent agree which is why Trump caving to Xi and letting in half a million Chinese students pisses me off. Stupid Trump on that.

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I don't see 1M Chinese kids here. I see many more Indian kids here.

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Talk to Trump. He's on record defending it and saying we need them here.

Narrator: we don't.

Extend my whiner list to include Indian kids. Don't want them clogging up our universities either.

I don't know what the numbers are now (would have to look it up) but prior to Covid there were over half a million chinese commies going to school here. That is just insane.

2 questions and they are related to each other...

If the education system in the US is so sub-par (at all levels) then why are foreign countries sending their youth to the US for degrees?

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How do these countries expect to improve and promote their own university systems if they continue to outsource US education to their students?

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Students from India, China and South Korea are expected to be hardest hit by the rule change.

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I welcome the rule change. You shouldn't be able to study forever and stay here. Get your schooling done and GTFO. Depending on who you are, you shouldn't be here in the first place, frankly.

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I welcome it as well but the total number of foreign students needs to be slashed much more and we shouldn't be allowing Chinese kids to come here at all. Period.

American kids should not have to compete against foreigners for limited spots in the best universities and colleges.

Texas and Texas A&M are state universities of Texas. Competition among fellow Texans is tough. Even harder with out of state kids added in. Foreigners? F that.

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One million percent agree which is why Trump caving to Xi and letting in half a million Chinese students pisses me off. Stupid Trump on that.

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I don't see 1M Chinese kids here. I see many more Indian kids here.

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Talk to Trump. He's on record defending it and saying we need them here.

Narrator: we don't.

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I heard him say it (on video). But that doesn't mean that he opened the gates. If you see that he did, please post information on that because I have not.

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2 questions and they are related to each other...

If the education system in the US is so sub-par (at all levels) then why are foreign countries sending their youth to the US for degrees?

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How do these countries expect to improve and promote their own university systems if they continue to outsource US education to their students?

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Hard truth: No one cares about US education and US degrees. They just use it to get into the country and get into US jobs and a US lifestyle.

Also, these countries don't care about improving their own education systems. They just don't want kids to complain and make trouble, so they push them out to the US to go bother someone else.

It is as simple as that.

PS: By no one I mean 95%, there are always some exceptions. Spies also go back (mainly Chinese).

In trump's defense he always believes he is "art of the deal" mode, so i am sure there are conditions that have to be met by Xi that likely Xi will never meet. Hopefully.

The scam moves to O1 visa now that H1B is being targeted.

Why is this clown posting about the scam that he will carry out in the future?? Won't Immigration find him, since they are checking social media?

The best and brightest, yall.

Give it a week before one of the usual commie judges blocks it for "reasons."

Maybe Jugal should address all the idiot women here on H1B's, from India and China, who's real intent is birthing tourism. Get rid of them and there may be a few more spots available.

Otherwise, cry harder Jugal.

How did he "STUDY FOR FREE in the US" and why doesn't he go back to his home country and make it better? Why does he hate the motherland and his people?

Very good Trump.

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How did he "STUDY FOR FREE in the US" and why doesn't he go back to his home country and make it better? Why does he hate the motherland and his people?

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I had to pay tuition for my American kid for 4 years and this guy studies "for free".

My kid is lucky that I am able to pay but what about many others? They are under debt for life while foreigners get free education and can take career risks since they have no debt.

He doesn't hate his motherland, he will send money back as "remittances" and then open a business and offshore jobs.

We got to get a clue about how this works.

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Earlier, visas were "duration of status" which meant that the foreign students could remain for as long as they maintained valid F1 visa status and study program continued.

Now, the administration made it time bound for up to 4 years, not "as long as you are studying". Students must apply for extension to keep studying or for OPT (practical training).

This will reduce the gaming of the system by keeping academic program alive in order to stay in the country.

Prepare yourselves for more "we will lose out on amazing international talent... what about innovation... US economy will flounder.... universities will go bankrupt...." moaning.

US Student Visa Holders Face New Restrictions Under DHS Rule
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-16/trump-to-limit-student-visas-to-four-years-in-latest-crackdown
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The Trump administration is scrapping a decades-old policy that allows international students and exchange visitors to remain in the US for as long as their studies last, replacing it with a four-year limit that will require many of them to seek federal permission to stay.

According to the new rule being published Friday, students and scholars coming to the US on F and J visas after the rule takes effect will be required to reapply to stay after that period, regardless of whether they've finished their degree, plan to enroll in graduate school or seek work experience related to their studies.

The change could throw the visa approval process into chaos at its busiest time of year, threatening to dampen fall enrollment and discouraging many international students from applying in the future.
Under the rule, students already in the US and holding F or J visas a population that totaled about 1.5 million in 2025 will have four years from the effective date of the rule to reapply, regardless of when they arrived or the duration of their program.

Anyone needing more time including most doctoral candidates and physicians in lengthy residencies will have to file a formal extension request with US Citizenship and Immigration Services, provide biometrics and pay a fee, instead of relying on their schools to manage their status.

Visa holders who overstay the four-year restriction could be exposed to three- and 10-year bans on returning to the US.

Students from India, China and South Korea are expected to be hardest hit by the rule change. It comes as the Trump administration has repeatedly targeted international students in its pressure campaign to reshape higher education, seeking to narrow a pipeline that funnels global talent and billions of dollars in tuition revenue to US universities.

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It's a small step in the right direction but not nearly enough.

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The scam moves to O1 visa now that H1B is being targeted.

Why is this clown posting about the scam that he will carry out in the future?? Won't Immigration find him, since they are checking social media?

The best and brightest, yall.

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O-1 isn't a scam, and neither is trying to move to it from H-1B. You actually have to be very highly qualified for O-1. He might meet it, but it is not easy. Winning a recognized, major international award like a Nobel or Fields medal would be one way to automatically qualify.

The 8 criteria he references are actually not easy, and the typical H-1B is not going to qualify. They include winning less prestigious, but still major, awards for research or contribution to a field, membership in organizations that require substantial achievement within a field and review by experts (National Academy of Sciences, fellowship, not just membership, in certain professional organizations, etc), authorship in major trade or academic journals (subject to review of the journal, so pay for publish will not cut it), letters of recommendation from esteemed colleagues in your field (they will be heavily scrutinized, so not just random people), evidence of employment in a critical field, or evidence of commanding a outstanding salary.

The O-1 visa isn't used a lot outside of film and athletics because it's actually very difficult to get. Despite having to only meet 3 criteria, those hurdles are pretty substantial. You basically need to be important enough to have a Wikipedia page about you to realistically have a shot. It's the visa for the best and brightest.

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How did he "STUDY FOR FREE in the US" and why doesn't he go back to his home country and make it better? Why does he hate the motherland and his people?

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Could've had scholarships or fellowships to ivy leagues. They have a lot of support, even for international students.

ETA Looked him up. He got a master's in computer science at the University of Illinois. It wasn't "free" so much as he found a lot of university jobs he could do to substantially help his parents pay for it. There are articles on him if you look.

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The scam moves to O1 visa now that H1B is being targeted.

Why is this clown posting about the scam that he will carry out in the future?? Won't Immigration find him, since they are checking social media?

The best and brightest, yall.

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O-1 isn't a scam, and neither is trying to move to it from H-1B. You actually have to be very highly qualified for O-1. He might meet it, but it is not easy. Winning a recognized, major international award like a Nobel or Fields medal would be one way to automatically qualify.

The 8 criteria he references are actually not easy, and the typical H-1B is not going to qualify. They include winning less prestigious, but still major, awards for research or contribution to a field, membership in organizations that require substantial achievement within a field and review by experts (National Academy of Sciences, fellowship, not just membership, in certain professional organizations, etc), authorship in major trade or academic journals (subject to review of the journal, so pay for publish will not cut it), letters of recommendation from esteemed colleagues in your field (they will be heavily scrutinized, so not just random people), evidence of employment in a critical field, or evidence of commanding a outstanding salary.

The O-1 visa isn't used a lot outside of film and athletics because it's actually very difficult to get. Despite having to only meet 3 criteria, those hurdles are pretty substantial. You basically need to be important enough to have a Wikipedia page about you to realistically have a shot. It's the visa for the best and brightest.

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In theory you are right.
But that has been gamed as well, and there are consultancies to help people create a track record to become geniuses. I have seen a few myself on Linkedin.

By now, we can take it that every type of visa has been taken advantage of and gamed.

I am curious to know how many O1s are given out every year.

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Fantastic. I don't give a rats ass what they don't like either.

Foreign Youtubers are in depressed meltdown mode.
Which means that Trump did the right thing. I don't understand most of what he is talking about but his tone is depressed, so that is good.

I am curious to see what loopholes they manage to exploit.

It's always the American cheats and grifters who complain loudly that they can't make easy money anymore.

Like this professor who is pissed his low salary slaves won't be around much longer. Ha ha.

Everyday there's a new self-own with this admin....now a new attack on science in the US...this time capping student visas to 4 years. Most PhDs in Biology, for example, take 5-7 years. Cue the "we don't need international students taking our slots" crowd 😑 https://t.co/d9Rn8vyQny

— Jason Shepherd (@JasonSynaptic) July 17, 2026