Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Many of these were erected for sons brothers and fathers who died defending their states and communities back then. I think we sometimes forget these were real people.

Yes, follow Trumps lead and only tell the positive of US history. Remove all signage of slavery and riots.

+2 Yes, President Trump's March 2025 executive order, "Restoring Truth and Sanity to American History," directed the Department of the Interior to review and remove exhibits and signs at national parks that "inappropriately disparage Americans". This policy led to the removal of several slavery-related exhibits.

Teslag said:

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Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Many of these were erected for sons brothers and fathers who died defending their states and communities back then. I think we sometimes forget these were real people.

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Show me some examples of those statues being taken down. The ones people care about are for the leaders. The OP was about a Robert E Lee statue. Red herring noted.

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Teslag said:

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Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Many of these were erected for sons brothers and fathers who died defending their states and communities back then. I think we sometimes forget these were real people.

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Show me some examples of those statues being taken down. The ones people care about are for the leaders. The OP was about a Robert E Lee statue. Red herring noted.

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https://www.mit.edu/~jcb/Red_Herring/dances/music-notes.PDF

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Are you a high school girl? No one will take you seriously when you say things like "miss me with statues".

It's funny how the very people they shot at and were shooting at them were more willing to reconcile than the modern day leftist. Very telling.
They were all American soldiers.

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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How do you feel about people like William Wallace?

And many of those removed statues were not of specific people, but memorials to all Confederate soldiers.

Rocky Rider said:

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The lefty's will tear down a statue of Columbus but don't mess with their gubment holiday celebrating his discoveries.

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Oh, they take the day off. They just call it Indigenous Peoples Day.

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Teslag said:

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Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Many of these were erected for sons brothers and fathers who died defending their states and communities back then. I think we sometimes forget these were real people.

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Show me some examples of those statues being taken down. The ones people care about are for the leaders. The OP was about a Robert E Lee statue. Red herring noted.

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Do you feel same about memorials for Indian leaders who lost?

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Teslag said:

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Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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Many of these were erected for sons brothers and fathers who died defending their states and communities back then. I think we sometimes forget these were real people.

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Show me some examples of those statues being taken down. The ones people care about are for the leaders. The OP was about a Robert E Lee statue. Red herring noted.

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We have a long history of honoring the "losers" in our internecine conflicts in America. Note how many states, cities, and weapons of war are named after American Indians, for instance.

Less Evil Hank Scorpio said:

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Statues for rebels who lost wars don't make sense to me. No one learns history from a statue. Columbus is a nothing burger either way but miss me with statues for confederate losers.

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How do you feel about New England's plans to secede during the War of 1812?

" Contrary to standard accounts, the birthplace of American secessionist sentiment was not Charleston, South Carolina in 1860, but the heart of the New England Yankee culture -- Salem, Massachusetts -- more than half a century before the first shot was fired at Fort Sumter. From 1800 to 1815, there were three serious attempts at secession orchestrated by New England Federalists, who believed that the policies of the Jefferson and Madison administrations, especially the 1803 Louisiana Purchase, the national embargo of 1807, and the War of 1812, were so disproportionately harmful to New England that they justified secession."

They were racist as well:
" ETHNIC HOMOGENEITY
The Federalists also believed strongly that homogeneity of race, and "ethnic purity," were essential ingredients of a successful republic. These New Englanders thought of themselves as "choice offspring of the choicest people, unpolluted by foreign blood."9

New England Federalists were almost universally of English descent. Most of them agreed with William Smith Shaw that "the grand cause of all our present difficulties may be traced . . . to so many hordes of Foreigners immigrating to America."10 "Our progenitors were choice scions from the best English stock," added Federalist William Cunningham. Their "natural wants" did not "force them here for subsistence, like the wild Irish and sour Germans in Pennsylvania."11 And, in a widely cited if not celebrated remark, William Stoughton stated that "God sifted a whole Nation that he might send choice Grain over into this wilderness."
https://ditext.com/dilorenzo/yankee.html

annie88 said:

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This bull**** obsession with Christopher Columbus is so ridiculous. Funny how Africa still doesn't recognize their part in the slave trade and still have slavery today but yeah let's all get pissed off about 1492.

Statues should've never been taken down.

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I will only be happy when the Civil War statues taken down across the East Coast are returned.

What's shocking is they ever put one up for him to begin with.

LMCane said:

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annie88 said:

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This bull**** obsession with Christopher Columbus is so ridiculous. Funny how Africa still doesn't recognize their part in the slave trade and still have slavery today but yeah let's all get pissed off about 1492.

Statues should've never been taken down.

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I will only be happy when the Civil War statues taken down across the East Coast are returned.

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The crazy thing was the one in Boston honoring the black soldiers that was defaced by libs.

The people who seek to remove statues forget something important.

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Of this I am certain, that if we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future.

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Use of the past to validate our present identity requires both a selective memory and, often, a sense of indulgence.

Vestal_Flame said:

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The people who seek to remove statues forget something important.

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Of this I am certain, that if we open a quarrel between the past and the present, we shall find that we have lost the future.

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Use of the past to validate our present identity requires both a selective memory and, often, a sense of indulgence.

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So, anyway …


The past, present and future walked into a bar.

It was tense.

annie88 said:

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What's shocking is they ever put one up for him to begin with.

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It not that shocking. It is the commies in Austin, after all.

Pinochet said:

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annie88 said:

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What's shocking is they ever put one up for him to begin with.

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It not that shocking. It is the commies in Austin, after all.

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Let me reiterate. Shocking that we have people so stupid in our country to put a statue up to someone like that.