Any predictions on deals?

Best case scenario…no deal…

Why?

Because you can't trust the CCP.

I think there will be "deals" made. They just won't mean much.

Trump capitulated last time around on China, but then Iran happened so he has more leverage this time.

Going to be interesting.

I think there will be a LOT of good deals

Trump has been extremely convivial discussing Xi the past few days

I think that means they have agreement on a lot of economic issues

LMCane said:

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I think there will be a LOT of good deals

Trump has been extremely convivial discussing Xi the past few days

I think that means they have agreement on a lot of economic issues

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LM, if we cancel the $14B arms sale to Taiwan in exchange for support on Iran, do you think that will be a good deal?

K2-HMFIC said:

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LMCane said:

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I think there will be a LOT of good deals

Trump has been extremely convivial discussing Xi the past few days

I think that means they have agreement on a lot of economic issues

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LM, if we cancel the $14B arms sale to Taiwan in exchange for support on Iran, do you think that will be a good deal?

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Wouldn't surprise me if he did. He already capitulated on banning all of the Chinese spies that infiltrate our university systems and he's made public comments about wanting Chinese EVs here. If he does the latter, it will collapse the US EV industry outside of Tesla.

Tailgate88 said:

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He took an awful lot of VIPs and CEOs with him. There is a reason for that.

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Go on......

Tailgate88 said:

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He took an awful lot of VIPs and CEOs with him. There is a reason for that.

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Blood sacrifice?

NOW - Trump arrives in Beijing with Elon Musk and Jensen Huang in tow. pic.twitter.com/Vfk0Mdfo5D

— Disclose.tv (@disclosetv) May 13, 2026

We get 100B in jet orders, china deescalates iran conflict with the help of the GCC, UAE officially aligns with US while the other GCC countries drift toward china, china agrees to buzz off the panama canal

China gets access to advanced AI chips. And in return, intervenes to resolve the Iran crisis.

Bill O’Reilly just revealed he spoke directly with Chinese officials — and what he says is coming next could have massive implications for the Trump administration.

According to O’Reilly, China is signaling it may help pressure Iran…but there’s a catch.

O’REILLY: “I did talk… pic.twitter.com/s7Dqv4ILuP

— Overton (@overton_news) May 13, 2026

Not sure why Bill would say that trade is good for us. Of course, by that date, we should have mitigated chip dependency on Taiwan, if we are diligent.

Taiwans strategic priority is then negated to their own detriment.

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Sid Farkas said:

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China gets access to advanced AI chips. And in return, intervenes to resolve the Iran crisis.

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Yuck. That's a bad trade. Although I think China will ultimately get there on their own with AI chips. Or close enough. Their manufacturing quality has improved pretty dramatically in recent years from everything I've read primarily because of Trump's initial runs at trying to freeze them out of supply chains. Necessity being the mother of invention, if you will.

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agree 100%. I just figured that the last-minute addition of Huang to the entourage means a chip deal is in the making.

Sid Farkas said:

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YouBet said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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China gets access to advanced AI chips. And in return, intervenes to resolve the Iran crisis.

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Yuck. That's a bad trade. Although I think China will ultimately get there on their own with AI chips. Or close enough. Their manufacturing quality has improved pretty dramatically in recent years from everything I've read primarily because of Trump's initial runs at trying to freeze them out of supply chains. Necessity being the mother of invention, if you will.

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agree 100%. I just figured that the last-minute addition of Huang to the entourage means a chip deal is in the making.

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For sure.

YouBet said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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YouBet said:

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Sid Farkas said:

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China gets access to advanced AI chips. And in return, intervenes to resolve the Iran crisis.

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Yuck. That's a bad trade. Although I think China will ultimately get there on their own with AI chips. Or close enough. Their manufacturing quality has improved pretty dramatically in recent years from everything I've read primarily because of Trump's initial runs at trying to freeze them out of supply chains. Necessity being the mother of invention, if you will.

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agree 100%. I just figured that the last-minute addition of Huang to the entourage means a chip deal is in the making.

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For sure.

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I think we're trading chips and the TWN arms deal for Iran support.

Having taken massive moves around access to crude from Venezuela and Iran, it seems we should be in a better position to make deals with China right now than we have been in a long time.. China still controls so much of industry, supply chain, logistics, etc. that us and the rest of the world are dependent upon, so they still have solid bargaining power too.

I seems we shouldn't concede anything with Taiwan unless or until we are independent from their chip manufacturing, so I hope Bill O'Reilly is wrong there, but Elon Musk is certainly trying to change things on the chip manuf side.

I'm fine with lifting the AI chip embargo. They're smuggling them in through Singapore anyway.

Ozzy Osbourne said:

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I'm fine with lifting the AI chip embargo. They're smuggling them in through Singapore anyway.

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Are you good with ceding the Taiwan arms deal as well?

I don't know enough about that one. I don't like being arms dealer to the world, either.

Also, I don't see why we necessarily have to make any concessions to China for help with Iran. They are the ones that will have to ration oil if this conflict lingers.

K2-HMFIC said:

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LMCane said:

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I think there will be a LOT of good deals

Trump has been extremely convivial discussing Xi the past few days

I think that means they have agreement on a lot of economic issues

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LM, if we cancel the $14B arms sale to Taiwan in exchange for support on Iran, do you think that will be a good deal?

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no

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will25u said:

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Bill O’Reilly just revealed he spoke directly with Chinese officials — and what he says is coming next could have massive implications for the Trump administration.

According to O’Reilly, China is signaling it may help pressure Iran…but there’s a catch.

O’REILLY: “I did talk… pic.twitter.com/s7Dqv4ILuP

— Overton (@overton_news) May 13, 2026

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And there we go…


Is the admin is going to trade Taiwan for Iran?

Because if so, the responses on this board trying to justify it will be wild.

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Would be horrifically stupid to do that now, but I've always maintained what I said earlier....once we mitigate need for Taiwan's chip manufacturing then they are no longer strategically relevant to us. At that point, it's just a philosophical debate.

Which is why if I'm Taiwanese I'm doing everything I can to leave that country and move here.

Ozzy Osbourne said:

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I don't know enough about that one. I don't like being arms dealer to the world, either.

Also, I don't see why we necessarily have to make any concessions to China for help with Iran. They are the ones that will have to ration oil if this conflict lingers.

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Regarding your arms dealer comment…it does make up 8% of GDP.

YouBet said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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will25u said:

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Bill O’Reilly just revealed he spoke directly with Chinese officials — and what he says is coming next could have massive implications for the Trump administration.

According to O’Reilly, China is signaling it may help pressure Iran…but there’s a catch.

O’REILLY: “I did talk… pic.twitter.com/s7Dqv4ILuP

— Overton (@overton_news) May 13, 2026

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And there we go…


Is the admin is going to trade Taiwan for Iran?

Because if so, the responses on this board trying to justify it will be wild.

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Would be horrifically stupid to do that now, but I've always maintained what I said earlier....once we mitigate need for Taiwan's chip manufacturing then they are no longer strategically relevant to us. At that point, it's just a philosophical debate.

Which is why if I'm Taiwanese I'm doing everything I can to leave that country and move here.

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Timeline is out to 2049 indicated by that tweet and what Oreily is saying general lines up with the Donroe doctrine.

China decouples from South America, picks up the slack in "governance" for the hooligans they depend on rather than free-riding the US security blanket, US is given a runway to decouple from Taiwan.

So many would say "not another mid east war" and at the same time defend Taiwan from China. That's mostly correct, today. We don't need the oil. We do need the chip capacity. 5 years from now, that landscape looks completely different.

From WSJ:

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For instance, where the administration under former President Joe Biden said it "does not support" Taiwan's independence, China now wants the Trump administration to say it "opposes" ita change that would end Washington's longstanding strategic ambiguity. Xi made a similar request of Biden in 2023 and was rebuffed.

Senior U.S. officials briefing reporters Sunday said Trump's preparation for the summit "hasn't included any plans" for a shift on Taiwan. But the next day Trump signaled openness to discussing Taiwan-related issues with Xi, saying they would weigh a multibillion-dollar arms package Washington was assembling for Taipei.

"President Xi would like us not to, and I'll have that discussion. That's one of the many things I'll be talking about," Trump told reporters.

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Tea Party said:

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will25u said:

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Bill O’Reilly just revealed he spoke directly with Chinese officials — and what he says is coming next could have massive implications for the Trump administration.

According to O’Reilly, China is signaling it may help pressure Iran…but there’s a catch.

O’REILLY: “I did talk… pic.twitter.com/s7Dqv4ILuP

— Overton (@overton_news) May 13, 2026

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That would be terrible.

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If we make that deal then don't trust the USA. We assho too.

Why do their citizens at events like this, always look like NPCs?

YouBet said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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will25u said:

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Bill O’Reilly just revealed he spoke directly with Chinese officials — and what he says is coming next could have massive implications for the Trump administration.

According to O’Reilly, China is signaling it may help pressure Iran…but there’s a catch.

O’REILLY: “I did talk… pic.twitter.com/s7Dqv4ILuP

— Overton (@overton_news) May 13, 2026

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And there we go…


Is the admin is going to trade Taiwan for Iran?

Because if so, the responses on this board trying to justify it will be wild.

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Would be horrifically stupid to do that now, but I've always maintained what I said earlier....once we mitigate need for Taiwan's chip manufacturing then they are no longer strategically relevant to us. At that point, it's just a philosophical debate.

Which is why if I'm Taiwanese I'm doing everything I can to leave that country and move here.

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There are arguments for not making the defense of Taiwan central to our strategy in the WestPac. But I haven't seen many arguments for not selling them weapons to defend themselves.

we can always get other allies to give weapons to the Taiwanese

🇺🇸🇨🇳 China sanctioned Marco Rubio twice. Now it has changed the spelling of his name in Chinese just so he can enter the country.

- Beijing altered the transliteration of Rubio's surname to bypass its own sanctions, making him the first sanctioned U.S. Secretary of State to… https://t.co/OwJHfATPFE pic.twitter.com/PN0sSnaXha

— Mario Nawfal (@MarioNawfal) May 13, 2026

funny stuff. Typical Chinese fake "saving face"