Army Chief of Staff out

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7:49p, 4/2/26
Another one bites the dust as Biden appointees continue to be purged.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has asked Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George to step down and take immediate retirement, sources familiar with the decision told CBS News.
One of the sources said Hegseth wants someone in the role who will implement President Trump and Hegseth's vision for the Army.


www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-ousts-army-chief-of-staff-gen-randy-george/
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9:53p, 4/2/26
Only yes men.
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9:54p, 4/2/26
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You mentioned you served in Germany in the late 70s, so you remember the Cold War chain of command. Here's what I'm struggling with:

When has this ever happened during wartime? Not just 'rare'. I mean *ever*. We have troops deployed, we're coordinating Ukraine aid, we have active operations in the Middle East.

You've criticized government incompetence and waste. How is decapitating military leadership mid-deployment anything but incompetent? What general or admiral is going to give honest advice to Hegseth now, knowing disagreement means forced resignation?

Weren't you the one saying the FBI 'overreacted' and should have used more measured approaches? Why is aggressive purging suddenly good when it's your guy doing it?


This is the history of Chiefs of Staff that I could find mildly relevant:


- Truman fired MacArthur (insubordination during Korea), didn't ask for resignation
- Last Chief of Staff "resignation" was Eric Shinseki (2003), but that was retirement timing, not mid-war purge
- Chiefs serve 4-year terms specifically to outlast political transitions
- No defense secretary has ever asked a sitting Chief to resign during active combat operations
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In reply to AuditAg • 10:01p, 4/2/26
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How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.
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In reply to Hogties • 10:06p, 4/2/26
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Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Yeah, I don't buy the notion that you can't sack a military leader during periods of conflict. Sometimes that is exactly what's needed. I don't have an informed opinion on this case, but it's beyond silly to think someone has to stay in the seat simply because it's hot in the kitchen.
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In reply to Hogties • 10:08p, 4/2/26
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Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.
Lincoln wanted only "yes" men.
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In reply to Hogties • 10:08p, 4/2/26
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Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Well, first, a Chief of Staff didn't exist back then, so let's get that straight. And Lincoln fired combat commanders for battlefield failure, not administrative chiefs for policy disagreements.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:09p, 4/2/26
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Only yes men.


We know you're trolling, but you literally need yes man in the army
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In reply to Gigem314 • 10:23p, 4/2/26
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Gigem314 said:
Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Lincoln wanted only "yes" men.

How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? I think 4. Winfield Scott retired but I count him because he came up with the blockade. Then:

  • McClellan: Removed twice for being overly cautious.
  • McDowell: Replaced after the first Battle of Bull Run.
  • Pope: Removed following the Second Battle of Bull Run.
  • Burnside: Removed after the loss at Fredericksburg.
  • Hooker: Replaced before the Battle of Gettysburg.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:25p, 4/2/26
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ETFan said:
Only yes men.

When there's a boss, the boss can do what pleases them. Their administration so get over it.
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In reply to AuditAg • 10:26p, 4/2/26
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AuditAg said:
Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Well, first, a Chief of Staff didn't exist back then, so let's get that straight. And Lincoln fired combat commanders for battlefield failure, not administrative chiefs for policy disagreements.


Then what does it matter if not a combat roll during a combat? Which way are you going with this?
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10:26p, 4/2/26
Did Biden really appoint this man or did his administration? I have hard time believing peepaw did any cabinet member picking on his own. If his underlings picked this man, they likely did so for very specific reasons. I'm fairly sure none of those reasons would align with Trump or Hegseth's agenda or politics. And let's be brutally honest. At this level, generals are politicians.
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In reply to AuditAg • 10:27p, 4/2/26
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10:28p, 4/2/26
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Well he was appointed by FJB's handlers (and we know what a stupid clown show that was), so there's definitely a chance he was a fan of all the freaky trans BS that had infected our military. Of course that could be 100% wrong too.

I'm sure there's a heck of a lot more to the story, that we'll never know.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:31p, 4/2/26
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Only yes men.

Genius, everybody in the military is a yes-man. You follow your ****ing orders.

I'm surprised any of the Obama era brass was still around at such a high level.
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10:34p, 4/2/26
What's he up to in 24 hours? 3-4 generals? Totally normal.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:35p, 4/2/26
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ETFan said:
Only yes men.


Well ya that's the ****ing point. You either implement the vision of your civilian boss or get the **** out of the way.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:35p, 4/2/26
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ETFan said:
Only yes men.

Try saying 'no' to a liberal
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In reply to ETFan • 10:35p, 4/2/26
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ETFan said:
What's he up to in 24 hours? 3-4 generals? Totally normal.



He should get rid of as many as he needs to in order to find those willing to shape the force the way he wants it.
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In reply to ETFan • 10:42p, 4/2/26
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What's he up to in 24 hours? 3-4 generals? Totally normal.

Cleaning out the crap that doesn't want to go along. That's how it works chief.
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10:45p, 4/2/26
Boots on the ground it is then.

That's my guess.
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In reply to ETFan • 11:35p, 4/2/26
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Boots on the ground it is then.

That's my guess.


Common sense has left the building. Kegsbreath is rolling.
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In reply to APHIS AG • 11:40p, 4/2/26
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APHIS AG said:
Another one bites the dust as Biden appointees continue to be purged.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has asked Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George to step down and take immediate retirement, sources familiar with the decision told CBS News.
One of the sources said Hegseth wants someone in the role who will implement President Trump and Hegseth's vision for the Army.


www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-ousts-army-chief-of-staff-gen-randy-george/

Wait...

The Commander in Chief wants his vision implemented?

He must be trying to be a KING!!!!!
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In reply to ETFan • 11:41p, 4/2/26
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Boots on the ground it is then.

That's my guess.

Well, you guessed he was a threat to democracy and a king, so...

You kinda suck at guessing.
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In reply to AuditAg • 11:50p, 4/2/26
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AuditAg said:
Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Well, first, a Chief of Staff didn't exist back then, so let's get that straight. And Lincoln fired combat commanders for battlefield failure, not administrative chiefs for policy disagreements.


What's the difference?
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In reply to APHIS AG • 11:55p, 4/2/26
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APHIS AG said:
Another one bites the dust as Biden appointees continue to be purged.

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Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has asked Army Chief of Staff Gen. Randy George to step down and take immediate retirement, sources familiar with the decision told CBS News.
One of the sources said Hegseth wants someone in the role who will implement President Trump and Hegseth's vision for the Army.


www.cbsnews.com/news/hegseth-ousts-army-chief-of-staff-gen-randy-george/

What is wrong with this? A "Biden" appointee for a Chief of Staff of the Army? First of all, it was not really a Biden appointee. Biden was told to sign for it. And if it was from the same people that told Biden where to sign, it was not the best possible appointee for the assignment when it comes to a position like that. Why do we have any of the Biden appointees assigned anywhere this late in Trumps term? Why would Trump wait this long to flush the Biden toilet from any aspect of ANYTHING "Biden" would have appointed?

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In reply to ETFan • 11:57p, 4/2/26
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ETFan said:
Boots on the ground it is then.

That's my guess.
You probably also guessed that he'd get jail time and had no chance to win in 2024.
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In reply to ETFan • 12:19a, 4/3/26
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ETFan said:
Only yes men.

I'm sure you were just as outraged when your lord and savior Obama and Biden were busy purging war fighters who had the unconscionable belief that the sole purpose of the military was to defend our country and way of life and was not supposed to be some grand woke social experiment.
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12:27a, 4/3/26
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In 2 weeks:

Trump to Hegseth: Nuke them!
Hegseth to Trump: Yes sir!
Hegseth to General: Nuke them
General to Hegseth: No
Hegseth to General: You're fired.

We have a "stable genius" at the helm. Nothing to worry about. He picks "only the best people".
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In reply to AuditAg • 12:57a, 4/3/26
AuditAg said:
You mentioned you served in Germany in the late 70s, so you remember the Cold War chain of command. Here's what I'm struggling with:

When has this ever happened during wartime? Not just 'rare'. I mean *ever*. We have troops deployed, we're coordinating Ukraine aid, we have active operations in the Middle East.

You've criticized government incompetence and waste. How is decapitating military leadership mid-deployment anything but incompetent? What general or admiral is going to give honest advice to Hegseth now, knowing disagreement means forced resignation?

Weren't you the one saying the FBI 'overreacted' and should have used more measured approaches? Why is aggressive purging suddenly good when it's your guy doing it?


This is the history of Chiefs of Staff that I could find mildly relevant:


- Truman fired MacArthur (insubordination during Korea), didn't ask for resignation
- Last Chief of Staff "resignation" was Eric Shinseki (2003), but that was retirement timing, not mid-war purge
- Chiefs serve 4-year terms specifically to outlast political transitions
- No defense secretary has ever asked a sitting Chief to resign during active combat operations

have you ever read a book about the Civil War and how many Army commanders and "chiefs of staff" were replaced?
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2:59a, 4/3/26
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When the head coach is under fire because the season is going to hell………… what usually happens………… you fire a coordinator to look proactive, cover your ass, and appear a if you've solved the problem.

Hundred bucks says the season ain't going to improve.
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In reply to MemphisAg1 • 3:50a, 4/3/26
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MemphisAg1 said:
Hogties said:
How many generals did Lincoln fire until he found Grant? McArthur in Korea was summarily fired and retired. Hell even Patron was sidelined for a long while. It happens.

Civilians command the military. For better or worse.

Yeah, I don't buy the notion that you can't sack a military leader during periods of conflict. Sometimes that is exactly what's needed. I don't have an informed opinion on this case, but it's beyond silly to think someone has to stay in the seat simply because it's hot in the kitchen.


You are correct. The JCS are force providers to the regional COCOMS. Firing one of the JCS can have a negative impact on the morale of that service component but that's nothing compared to the damage to morale that results from not firing one soon enough.


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4:24a, 4/3/26
The problem is that this administration has fired four service chiefs of the six branches of the armed forces in less than two years.

The true reasoning for firing most of these GOFOs has been poorly explained to the public and writ large military. When you study the Civil War, Lincoln at least had good reason to sack his field commanders. For General in Chief, similar to the service chiefs in that time; he had just four. Scott, McClellan, Halleck and Grant.

Scott retired and was in poor health.

McClellan was insubordinate, but was fired after Antietam for lack of pursuit.

Halleck was an advisor primarily to Lincoln and better fit the definition of a modern service chief for T10 requirements. Grant took the role after his successful western campaign and need to have a unified field campaign plus overall strategy.

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In reply to ETFan • 6:11a, 4/3/26
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ETFan said:
Only yes men.

Which is why Biden had him in there
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6:38a, 4/3/26
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That was yesterday's butthurt post.. let's see what today brings...
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