This is why Fermi teamed up with Rick Perry- to make the Texas politics work for Fermi. Rick and his son have done very well.

I don't see why in heck anyone would put these within a couple hundred miles of the Tx gulf coast due to hurricanes. It's looks like the Tx panhandle area would be perfect if they have the water needed.

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They seem to be concentrated out west where the power is wind turbines or Permian basin gas., it's actually cost effective in that way as long as the power source of choice does not require much water cooling, or they don't mind operating at variable capacity based on availability of wind power.

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Before I left Australia, I did some work in a brand new data center which had a new concept of using ambient air for cooling. That was probably late 2019 and I left in early 2020 so I don't know how it panned out.

It was pretty damn cold in Melbourne every time I visited there so they might have had a chance. This was in a crappy little suburb south of the Melbourne Tullamarine Airport and well west of the CBD.

Found it. Equinix ME4 in Derrimut, Victoria, Australia.
They refer to it as "free air cooling"
https://www.equinix.com.br/content/dam/eqxcorp/en_us/documents/resources/ibx-tech-specs/ibx_me4_en.pdf

Fun fact, that day in 2019, I used the 4G on my phone to download an 8 GB .iso image file while sitting in the back of a taxi on my way to the data center.

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Maybe that was an option at one time, but it's not anymore. The latest server racks have so many fans whining at what seems like supersonic speed that you actually need hearing protection just to approach them. The next gen that is already being mocked up are bringing liquid cooling down the server racks and into the servers directly. We've reached the limits of what can practicably be done with air cooling of the racks. Each rack, which is about the size of a refrigerator, is now approaching 100KW. That's like having 100 of those home electric space heaters pushed into a refrigerator sized box. Even load banks, which are specifically designed to do nothing more than burn off heat for testing purposes, take up more space that that.

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Nearly every hyperscale data center uses or will use closed loop cooling.

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That's what everyone claims but there is no proof of this and there are no regulations requiring it. They will go with whatever is cheapest.

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Developing a new water source in Texas isn't particularly cheap these days

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Is this one of those things were the first generation of Data Centers will be 100X larger than the 10th generation? Kind of like all the computers at NASA in the 70's now fit inside an I phone type deal?

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This will be the case and it is already happening. Chip manufacturers are working to get more power density on their chips; thus the same DC shell can house a lot more compute. As to water, closed loop alleviates the need for large volumes of water.

IMO, closed loop water and/or refrigeration systems need to be mandated to get a construction permit here in Texas. I know I'll get pushback on that, but our state is already having water resource problems. We don't need to add to them.

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Is this one of those things were the first generation of Data Centers will be 100X larger than the 10th generation? Kind of like all the computers at NASA in the 70's now fit inside an I phone type deal?

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This will be the case and it is already happening. Chip manufacturers are working to get more power density on their chips; thus the same DC shell can house a lot more compute. As to water, closed loop alleviates the need for large volumes of water.

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The closed loop requires more power to operate so that power probably comes mostly from natural gas plants that would then need more water for that increased power demand. Not sure which is more efficient from a water consumption standpoint.

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Is this one of those things were the first generation of Data Centers will be 100X larger than the 10th generation? Kind of like all the computers at NASA in the 70's now fit inside an I phone type deal?

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This will be the case and it is already happening. Chip manufacturers are working to get more power density on their chips; thus the same DC shell can house a lot more compute. As to water, closed loop alleviates the need for large volumes of water.

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The closed loop requires more power to operate so that power probably comes mostly from natural gas plants that would then need more water for that increased power demand. Not sure which is more efficient from a water consumption standpoint.

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From a DC perspective you are correct. The closed loop system is not very efficient. You generally are looking at a PUE of 1.4-1.5 with a closed loop. The positive is that the water usage per DC hall is roughly the same as a commercial building. Liquid cooling of the chips is also a game changer for more density.

To meet the growing need for power, most DC's are going to utilize some form of modular natural gas generation to bridge to on-site turbines or grid power.

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I'll be keeping an eye on this for morbid curiosity. I have cousins that just sold a ton of acreage to a data center in East Bernard. And another family member trying to sell her land to another one in the same area. Wharton county is pretty small and that area isn't meant for heavy traffic and has no power infrastructure at that scale.

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You sure it is East Bernard and not Boling? I live in the area and haven't heard much about a data center in East Bernard. They put in a battery storage system north of town, but I have only heard about the community of Boling fighting the data center there.

If one is being put in East Bernard, there are going to be a helluva lot of very angry citizens.

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They have an East Bernard address, but the land is just south of 1093. So north of town. I haven't talked to them in a bit, so this is all getting filtered through other family members.

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IMO, closed loop water and/or refrigeration systems need to be mandated to get a construction permit here in Texas. I know I'll get pushback on that, but our state is already having water resource problems. We don't need to add to them.

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Only permit you need in the county is a septic permit. We don't need permits in the county, now, or ever

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Texas wants to give the county permitting authority over data centers. Small counties most likely can't afford to staff a proper office to approve these permits.

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Where are you getting that? The Legislature won't be in session again until next year, so nothing is imminent.

But, where counties already get involved is that most of these data centers ask for tax abatement agreements. Without one, they don't get built, so the local tax authorities already have the vehicle for a big say on where they get built, if they want to use it.

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They may or may not be asking for tax abatements, but in some counties (one I know of for sure because my buddy, an Ag, is the county judge) the projected tax rate for EVERYONE will go down SIGNIFICANTLY once the center is built and online. Further, obviously not in all places but in some, where they get built is a function of where they can get the land.

Every deal/county may be different.

But think about the regulation you have to deal with in a municipality: everything from a CO all the way down to parking spaces. That goes away outside the city limits. Plus, with the upgraded transmission and bandwidth, its a win/win for the county.

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Yes, that's the thing people don't get about abatements. You can have a pasture that you get to tax at ag value and collect virtually nothing, or you can give the developer some small break and tax certainty by signing an abatement agreement and collect a lot more than the undeveloped pasture would generate. It's a win for local taxpayers.

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You get a big ugly warehouse instead of open space. Residents have to decide the trade-off; however, most don't want the warehouses.

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IMO, closed loop water and/or refrigeration systems need to be mandated to get a construction permit here in Texas. I know I'll get pushback on that, but our state is already having water resource problems. We don't need to add to them.

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Why mandate it when the cost of water is usually driving it anyway?

Curious as to the source article for this? I like it

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The author raises a legitimate practical concern: smaller, rural counties may lack the administrative capacity to evaluate complex industrial permits

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Small counties have the knowledge of the entire world in their hand now: it's called AI. Kind of ironic, isn't it.

And here is option 2: applicant-funded review. You want to build here, you fund the review by a 3rd party to ensure we are not getting screwed!

That 3rd party can then use AI to do the review.

The county citizens are not going to simply sit back and allow something like that to be built without making sure they are protected. Would you?

eta: here is something else that will happen. The minute word gets around in adjacent counties that a DC is being built, they will be all over that to make sure the decision doesn't affect them, e.g. water supply, leaching, air quality, electricity usage, etc!

What pollutants do data centers release into the air or leach into groundwater?


Counties do not have the power to zone for land use or regulate utilities. About the only method they have for controlling this development is through the platting process, and these entities usually don't go through that because they are rarely subdivide the properties they buy. The counties that want to control it know their best efforts are to work it through their reps in the legislature. The issue at this time is that there aren't a lot of controls in the existing legislation either.

They (the hyperscale developers) will go with whatever technology allows for the GPUs to operate optimally. Right now this is chilled water through CDUs and direct to chip cooling. These are air cooled chillers, meaning no cooling towers, so once the loop of water fills up that's all the water it's going to use.

Crypto mining facilities can be different.

Source: this is my industry.

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Texas wants to give the county permitting authority over data centers. Small counties most likely can't afford to staff a proper office to approve these permits.

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Where are you getting that? The Legislature won't be in session again until next year, so nothing is imminent.

But, where counties already get involved is that most of these data centers ask for tax abatement agreements. Without one, they don't get built, so the local tax authorities already have the vehicle for a big say on where they get built, if they want to use it.

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They may or may not be asking for tax abatements, but in some counties (one I know of for sure because my buddy, an Ag, is the county judge) the projected tax rate for EVERYONE will go down SIGNIFICANTLY once the center is built and online. Further, obviously not in all places but in some, where they get built is a function of where they can get the land.

Every deal/county may be different.

But think about the regulation you have to deal with in a municipality: everything from a CO all the way down to parking spaces. That goes away outside the city limits. Plus, with the upgraded transmission and bandwidth, its a win/win for the county.

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They are 100% asking for tax abatements, make no mistake about it.

And the tax RATE may drop, but the valuation that the tax rate is based on will absolutely increase. In no world are taxes actually going to drop, even with the slight of hand language being used.

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The tax abatement issue depends on the company wanting to build. We are actively fighting a data center in my county. The word is that some companies will avoid counties that have opposition in the community or a tax abatement isn't guaranteed, but then there is Google and others who aren't even asking for abatements. They are purchasing land and water rights under the cover of NDAs and there is construction started before the community even knows there was a proposal

Feel dirty linking to the NYT but here you go:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/03/18/business/energy-environment/data-center-energy-gas-generators.html

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They seem to be concentrated out west where the power is wind turbines or Permian basin gas., it's actually cost effective in that way as long as the power source of choice does not require much water cooling, or they don't mind operating at variable capacity based on availability of wind power.

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Before I left Australia, I did some work in a brand new data center which had a new concept of using ambient air for cooling. That was probably late 2019 and I left in early 2020 so I don't know how it panned out.

It was pretty damn cold in Melbourne every time I visited there so they might have had a chance. This was in a crappy little suburb south of the Melbourne Tullamarine Airport and well west of the CBD.

Found it. Equinix ME4 in Derrimut, Victoria, Australia.
They refer to it as "free air cooling"
https://www.equinix.com.br/content/dam/eqxcorp/en_us/documents/resources/ibx-tech-specs/ibx_me4_en.pdf

Fun fact, that day in 2019, I used the 4G on my phone to download an 8 GB .iso image file while sitting in the back of a taxi on my way to the data center.

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Maybe that was an option at one time, but it's not anymore. The latest server racks have so many fans whining at what seems like supersonic speed that you actually need hearing protection just to approach them. The next gen that is already being mocked up are bringing liquid cooling down the server racks and into the servers directly. We've reached the limits of what can practicably be done with air cooling of the racks. Each rack, which is about the size of a refrigerator, is now approaching 100KW. That's like having 100 of those home electric space heaters pushed into a refrigerator sized box. Even load banks, which are specifically designed to do nothing more than burn off heat for testing purposes, take up more space that that.

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I've been in the storage game for a long time and seen quite a few data centers.

The whole hot aisle / cold aisle thing is already out of control at someplace like Switch in Vegas. But they're about the only ones who really do it properly.

You can't last too long standing in their hot aisle when you've got a rack full of disks.

But most people don't do that properly so the heat on your person usually isn't too much of a problem.

Also with multiple network cables, redundant power cables, out of band management, 1U servers, etc., a lot of times the heat doesn't get dissipated from the back of the rack so you can have component failures that way.

When I was in Australia, crypto mining wasn't really a thing yet but since I've been back in the US for 6 years, I've been to a number of data centers that have racks of servers that have failed due to overheating from mining bitcoin. That's been kind of crazy to see.

I do agree that there's not much more that can be done with regular HVAC.

The ambient air thing I wrote about earlier was an Australian attempt to be more "green" and show that they were working towards achieving their wack-a-doodle climate goals.

I think Australia has backed off most of their carbon targets by now but 10 years ago, they had some aggressive goals for 2030 or whatever.

So as far as I know, water is water, it's wet. But assuming you get the chemistry right and employ a closed loop system, what is the life cycle of X amount of gallons? Do you have to change it every 6 months? 2 years?

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So as far as I know, water is water, it's wet. But assuming you get the chemistry right and employ a closed loop system, what is the life cycle of X amount of gallons? Do you have to change it every 6 months? 2 years?

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10 to 15 years in the one I'm aware of… or so they say.

Will the Chinese give them the land to put the data centers on?

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They seem to be concentrated out west where the power is wind turbines or Permian basin gas., it's actually cost effective in that way as long as the power source of choice does not require much water cooling, or they don't mind operating at variable capacity based on availability of wind power.

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Before I left Australia, I did some work in a brand new data center which had a new concept of using ambient air for cooling. That was probably late 2019 and I left in early 2020 so I don't know how it panned out.

It was pretty damn cold in Melbourne every time I visited there so they might have had a chance. This was in a crappy little suburb south of the Melbourne Tullamarine Airport and well west of the CBD.

Found it. Equinix ME4 in Derrimut, Victoria, Australia.
They refer to it as "free air cooling"
https://www.equinix.com.br/content/dam/eqxcorp/en_us/documents/resources/ibx-tech-specs/ibx_me4_en.pdf

Fun fact, that day in 2019, I used the 4G on my phone to download an 8 GB .iso image file while sitting in the back of a taxi on my way to the data center.

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Maybe that was an option at one time, but it's not anymore. The latest server racks have so many fans whining at what seems like supersonic speed that you actually need hearing protection just to approach them. The next gen that is already being mocked up are bringing liquid cooling down the server racks and into the servers directly. We've reached the limits of what can practicably be done with air cooling of the racks. Each rack, which is about the size of a refrigerator, is now approaching 100KW. That's like having 100 of those home electric space heaters pushed into a refrigerator sized box. Even load banks, which are specifically designed to do nothing more than burn off heat for testing purposes, take up more space that that.

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I've been in the storage game for a long time and seen quite a few data centers.

The whole hot aisle / cold aisle thing is already out of control at someplace like Switch in Vegas. But they're about the only ones who really do it properly.

You can't last too long standing in their hot aisle when you've got a rack full of disks.

But most people don't do that properly so the heat on your person usually isn't too much of a problem.

Also with multiple network cables, redundant power cables, out of band management, 1U servers, etc., a lot of times the heat doesn't get dissipated from the back of the rack so you can have component failures that way.

When I was in Australia, crypto mining wasn't really a thing yet but since I've been back in the US for 6 years, I've been to a number of data centers that have racks of servers that have failed due to overheating from mining bitcoin. That's been kind of crazy to see.

I do agree that there's not much more that can be done with regular HVAC.

The ambient air thing I wrote about earlier was an Australian attempt to be more "green" and show that they were working towards achieving their wack-a-doodle climate goals.

I think Australia has backed off most of their carbon targets by now but 10 years ago, they had some aggressive goals for 2030 or whatever.

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I've talked with a few groups that have come up with more efficient "ambient" type systems based on how they are constructed. They are much more expensive, so there only selling to places with lots of sand and no water.

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You think wind power is going to power these things? lolz

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You think wind power is going to power these things? lolz

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The ideal situation IMO is build backup Quickstart gas power plants to flip on when the wind and solar drops off.

Those don't happen overnight though and would drastically drag behind the DC builds. That's not even considering the power plant permitting process, which I assume has been tightened up.

ETA the generators could participate in the Ercot market if the price is high enough while the wind is blowing.

Just pointing out what was there.

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The author raises a legitimate practical concern: smaller, rural counties may lack the administrative capacity to evaluate complex industrial permits

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Small counties have the knowledge of the entire world in their hand now: it's called AI. Kind of ironic, isn't it.

And here is option 2: applicant-funded review. You want to build here, you fund the review by a 3rd party to ensure we are not getting screwed!

That 3rd party can then use AI to do the review.

The county citizens are not going to simply sit back and allow something like that to be built without making sure they are protected. Would you?

eta: here is something else that will happen. The minute word gets around in adjacent counties that a DC is being built, they will be all over that to make sure the decision doesn't affect them, e.g. water supply, leaching, air quality, electricity usage, etc!

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Problem is that in a lot of cases, the deals are already done before anybody in the county really knows what is going on and it is often too late for the citizens to really have any input outside of not electing the county commissioners in the next election. But that is way after the fact.

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Texas wants to give the county permitting authority over data centers. Small counties most likely can't afford to staff a proper office to approve these permits.

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Where are you getting that? The Legislature won't be in session again until next year, so nothing is imminent.

But, where counties already get involved is that most of these data centers ask for tax abatement agreements. Without one, they don't get built, so the local tax authorities already have the vehicle for a big say on where they get built, if they want to use it.

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They may or may not be asking for tax abatements, but in some counties (one I know of for sure because my buddy, an Ag, is the county judge) the projected tax rate for EVERYONE will go down SIGNIFICANTLY once the center is built and online. Further, obviously not in all places but in some, where they get built is a function of where they can get the land.

Every deal/county may be different.

But think about the regulation you have to deal with in a municipality: everything from a CO all the way down to parking spaces. That goes away outside the city limits. Plus, with the upgraded transmission and bandwidth, its a win/win for the county.

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Yes, that's the thing people don't get about abatements. You can have a pasture that you get to tax at ag value and collect virtually nothing, or you can give the developer some small break and tax certainty by signing an abatement agreement and collect a lot more than the undeveloped pasture would generate. It's a win for local taxpayers.

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You get a big ugly warehouse instead of open space. Residents have to decide the trade-off; however, most don't want the warehouses.

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We don't have county wide zoning. That's why a lot of people opt to live outside of cities, but you can't have it both ways--no control over what you do with your property, but the ability to control what your neighbor does with his property.

I'd be absolutely shocked if there wasn't a request for tax abatements. It would be absolutely stupid for a company to not ask. There are a lot of cases lately of abatements not being granted, or not being granted for the full duration that the developer/owner asked for, but the odds of a company flat out saying "yeah, we aren't going to ask for tax abatements to save us millions of dollars in cost" isn't something that computes or that I've been able to find any evidence of actually happening. Maybe there is a one off here or there, likely is, but it would be extremely rare because of the amount of money involved.

Bynum to Mexia is going gangbusters. Drove this route three weeks ago and not a single hint of activity.

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Bynum to Mexia is going gangbusters. Drove this route three weeks ago and not a single hint of activity.

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yep Hearn to Austin is lined with them. crazy. the first Blade Runner came out in 1982 and the movie was set in Nov 2019. It's probably 10-20 years off.

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Small counties have the knowledge of the entire world in their hand now: it's called AI. Kind of ironic, isn't it.

And here is option 2: applicant-funded review. You want to build here, you fund the review by a 3rd party to ensure we are not getting screwed!

That 3rd party can then use AI to do the review.

The county citizens are not going to simply sit back and allow something like that to be built without making sure they are protected. Would you?

eta: here is something else that will happen. The minute word gets around in adjacent counties that a DC is being built, they will be all over that to make sure the decision doesn't affect them, e.g. water supply, leaching, air quality, electricity usage, etc!

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Ok. So neighbor leases his land for drilling, RRC gives him a drilling permit, but the lib county now gets to decide everything to do with the surface activities. Should be fun.

Guy wants to build a feed lot, or better yet already owes one. Now the county can shut him down until he funds a 3rd party review of the smell.

What about chicken houses? County now dictate how they are ran too?

What if you set up a private shooting range on your 1000 acres but the county commissioners don't like guns so they shut that down for your family.

The state already controls the water well permits. I don't want any law that gives county power over land usage.

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Texas wants to give the county permitting authority over data centers. Small counties most likely can't afford to staff a proper office to approve these permits.

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Where are you getting that? The Legislature won't be in session again until next year, so nothing is imminent.

But, where counties already get involved is that most of these data centers ask for tax abatement agreements. Without one, they don't get built, so the local tax authorities already have the vehicle for a big say on where they get built, if they want to use it.

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They may or may not be asking for tax abatements, but in some counties (one I know of for sure because my buddy, an Ag, is the county judge) the projected tax rate for EVERYONE will go down SIGNIFICANTLY once the center is built and online. Further, obviously not in all places but in some, where they get built is a function of where they can get the land.

Every deal/county may be different.

But think about the regulation you have to deal with in a municipality: everything from a CO all the way down to parking spaces. That goes away outside the city limits. Plus, with the upgraded transmission and bandwidth, its a win/win for the county.

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Yes, that's the thing people don't get about abatements. You can have a pasture that you get to tax at ag value and collect virtually nothing, or you can give the developer some small break and tax certainty by signing an abatement agreement and collect a lot more than the undeveloped pasture would generate. It's a win for local taxpayers.

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That is 100% debatable

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The one closest to me is getting a 100% abatement to begin with for 5 years after 5 they have to pay a percentage until the 10 year mark it would be full taxes. I don't know anything about it but have read they have a life of 7-10 years if that is correct I don't see how it will be a win for taxpayers.

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Logos Stick said:

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The author raises a legitimate practical concern: smaller, rural counties may lack the administrative capacity to evaluate complex industrial permits

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Small counties have the knowledge of the entire world in their hand now: it's called AI. Kind of ironic, isn't it.

And here is option 2: applicant-funded review. You want to build here, you fund the review by a 3rd party to ensure we are not getting screwed!

That 3rd party can then use AI to do the review.

The county citizens are not going to simply sit back and allow something like that to be built without making sure they are protected. Would you?

eta: here is something else that will happen. The minute word gets around in adjacent counties that a DC is being built, they will be all over that to make sure the decision doesn't affect them, e.g. water supply, leaching, air quality, electricity usage, etc!

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Ok. So neighbor leases his land for drilling, RRC gives him a drilling permit, but the lib county now gets to decide everything to do with the surface activities. Should be fun.

Guy wants to build a feed lot, or better yet already owes one. Now the county can shut him down until he funds a 3rd party review of the smell.

What about chicken houses? County now dictate how they are ran too?

What if you set up a private shooting range on your 1000 acres but the county commissioners don't like guns so they shut that down for your family.

The state already controls the water well permits. I don't want any law that gives county power over land usage.

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Sounds like he needs to move to the UK where you have to get "planning permission" for anything you do with your property. That would be a nightmare.

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Texas wants to give the county permitting authority over data centers. Small counties most likely can't afford to staff a proper office to approve these permits.

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Where are you getting that? The Legislature won't be in session again until next year, so nothing is imminent.

But, where counties already get involved is that most of these data centers ask for tax abatement agreements. Without one, they don't get built, so the local tax authorities already have the vehicle for a big say on where they get built, if they want to use it.

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They may or may not be asking for tax abatements, but in some counties (one I know of for sure because my buddy, an Ag, is the county judge) the projected tax rate for EVERYONE will go down SIGNIFICANTLY once the center is built and online. Further, obviously not in all places but in some, where they get built is a function of where they can get the land.

Every deal/county may be different.

But think about the regulation you have to deal with in a municipality: everything from a CO all the way down to parking spaces. That goes away outside the city limits. Plus, with the upgraded transmission and bandwidth, its a win/win for the county.

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Yes, that's the thing people don't get about abatements. You can have a pasture that you get to tax at ag value and collect virtually nothing, or you can give the developer some small break and tax certainty by signing an abatement agreement and collect a lot more than the undeveloped pasture would generate. It's a win for local taxpayers.

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That is 100% debatable

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The one closest to me is getting a 100% abatement to begin with for 5 years after 5 they have to pay a percentage until the 10 year mark it would be full taxes. I don't know anything about it but have read they have a life of 7-10 years if that is correct I don't see how it will be a win for taxpayers.

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Most tenant leases are 7-10 years. The datacenter itself is a 30-year asset on the books. So, the tenant will resign or they will move a new tenant in. The technology within the 4 walls of the datacenter turns over every 2-3 years.

When you can carry a data center with in the palm of your hand is coming.

Recommend buying canned food and ammo every chance you get, defeating skynet ain't gonna be easy.