Carcinogenic deaths keep getting worse

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For the last 3-4 weeks (nearly daily), I regularly see various stats and information about mRNA drugs and THE vaccine.

Learning to sift through them is challenging and having two retired Aggie doc buddies has helped a lot. One of them, same class as me, told me in 2021 he feared a massive cancer outbreak amongst American youth due to the Covid vaxx, which he's very sorry to have been correct.

I can add to this daily but it's quite depressing. I got the Moderna in March of '20, but by August I had major questions and by December knew I'd never take any kind of booster.

As big of a freedom and liberty freak as I am, I can't imagine this administration announcing the severe drawbacks to this vaccine simply because it started under him and he allowed Fauci to continue. Yes, he had his hands full with the Dems putting him in jail costing him around $125 million in attorney's fees, but he did choose some of his folks very poorly mainly due to ignorance and extremely bad advice.

I know there's been amazing advances with Finbindozale and Ivermectin, but don't know if they're effective for these types of cancers.

It's a hell of a story.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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Vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19 (weighted hazard ratio [wHR], 0.26 [95% CI, 0.22-0.30]) and a 25% lower risk of all-cause mortality (wHR, 0.75 [95% CI, 0.75-0.76]), with a similar association observed when excluding severe COVID-19 death. Sensitivity analysis revealed that vaccinated individuals consistently had a lower risk of death, regardless of the cause.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41343214/

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2842305

Multiple studies in multiple countries have found:

" In this national cohort study of 28 million individuals, the results found no increased risk of 4-year all-cause mortality in individuals aged 18 to 59 years vaccinated against COVID-19, further supporting the safety of the mRNA vaccines that are widely used worldwide."

Do whatever you want to do with your life. But just because you read something on the internet doesn't mean it's true. Which is why I've included peer reviewed population sized studies.
fasthorse05
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That's why I put it out there.

I have no problem being wrong as long as there's some stats to back it up.

Gracias.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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Most of my friends and family got the jab. I did not. Made no sense to me to be vaccinated with something so rapidly developed. If I recall, words like "experimental" were being attached to it as it rolled out. It's a shame so many were forced to take it due to employer/government insistence.
jimmo
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Pfizer vaccine rolled out in early 2020. My wife received it.
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jimmo said:

Pfizer vaccine rolled out in early 2020. My wife received it.


Roll out to general public was Nov/Dec 2020 with most mass vaccination sites open Jan/Feb 2021.
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'Vaccinated individuals had a 74% lower risk of death from severe COVID-19'

Queso1
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Anyone under 65 that got the clot shot is a moron in my book. Seriously, it's an instant credibility killer.

But aside from that, my concern is that the excess deaths are from the virus, not the vax. How can they segregate those two?
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No. It received approval in December 2020. I remember because I hadn't lost mind yet in 2020 over the Covid tards and vax bs
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Still have Covidians…..pure blood proud and refused to wear a damn mask!
jimmo
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Pretty sure I'm correct on early 2020 for my wife. She is in healthcare, as was I.
So, it may coincide w/ what others were saying re: vax being open to public vs people in healthcare.
(and my memory is suspect as well lol)
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jimmo said:

Pretty sure I'm correct on early 2020 for my wife. She is in healthcare, as was I.
So, it may coincide w/ what others were saying re: vax being open to public vs people in healthcare.
(and my memory is suspect as well lol)


Early 2021.

The bull**** shutdowns didn't even start until March 2020.
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The shutdowns didn't start until March '20. Initial vaccine tests in late '20. Restricted availability in early '21. Not generally available until late '21. By mid '22 anyone who hadn't been vaccinated was blamed for "killing meemaw".
People of integrity expect to be believed, when they're not, they let time prove them right.
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The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.

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It's almost like people don't understand that any random person on the planet can generate a data set and post it on the internet to backup their opinions about any fear mongering issue they want to fear monger.
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nm
jimmo
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ok
guess I'm .. misremembering
thanks
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tmaggies said:

Still have Covidians…..pure blood proud and refused to wear a damn mask!
I thought the Covidians got their shots, wore their masks and were trying to force everybody else to do the same.
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I see were back to deleting fact based posts again.

As if I didn't live through 3 years of California lockdowns.
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HollywoodBQ said:

I see were back to deleting fact based posts again.

As if I didn't live through 3 years of California lockdowns.


Seriously. If there is anything worth deleting, it's that abomination of a covid board. Any self-respecting human would be humiliated by that cesspool of disinformation. I cringe every time I note it in the forum list
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Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Wow. That's your hindsight view of Covid and the vaccines?
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It was a pre-therapeutic that wears off quickly, not a vaccine. You are likely at higher risk of the next, not lower. You trained your body not to respond.
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AggieT said:

Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Wow. That's your hindsight view of Covid and the vaccines?

The leap from decades of research to mere months of development is a generational triumph that most of human history would have considered magic. It is the biological equivalent of going from the Wright Brothers to SpaceX in a single bound. We have effectively cracked the code on human response times.

It is staggering to realize that we successfully deployed a smallpox vaccine before we even had a functional germ theory to explain why it worked. That was pure survival instinct backed by observation. Before the measles vaccine existed, we were losing 2.6 million human beings every year; that is a body count higher than the entire population of Houston wiped off the planet annually.

It is a special kind of irony that the 'pro-life' movement treats this speed as a conspiracy instead of a breakthrough. If you actually valued life as a raw metric, you would be the first to celebrate the science that keeps 2.6 million children alive every year. But since your moral concern seems to vanish the moment the cord is cut, 'pro-birth' is the only honest label left for this logic. You care about the potential for life, but you are strangely indifferent to the actual survival of it once it enters the world. You're essentially standing on the shoulders of giants while complaining about the view.
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Gordo14 said:

Unvaccinated healthy youth had a 0% chance of mortality from covid. Any mortality more than 0% due to an unnecessary vaccine forced upon this group would never have happened.


fify. I think this is what you meant to say.
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jimmo said:

Pretty sure I'm correct on early 2020 for my wife. She is in healthcare, as was I.
So, it may coincide w/ what others were saying re: vax being open to public vs people in healthcare.
(and my memory is suspect as well lol)


So...she got the vaccine before covid was even supposedly in the states, and before the vaccine had started to be developed...?

Umm...
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jimmo said:

ok
guess I'm .. misremembering
thanks


Yes. Yes, you are. Or maybe your wife is messing with you.
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Mattressburn said:

AggieT said:

Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Wow. That's your hindsight view of Covid and the vaccines?

The leap from decades of research to mere months of development is a generational triumph that most of human history would have considered magic. It is the biological equivalent of going from the Wright Brothers to SpaceX in a single bound. We have effectively cracked the code on human response times.

It is staggering to realize that we successfully deployed a smallpox vaccine before we even had a functional germ theory to explain why it worked. That was pure survival instinct backed by observation. Before the measles vaccine existed, we were losing 2.6 million human beings every year; that is a body count higher than the entire population of Houston wiped off the planet annually.

It is a special kind of irony that the 'pro-life' movement treats this speed as a conspiracy instead of a breakthrough. If you actually valued life as a raw metric, you would be the first to celebrate the science that keeps 2.6 million children alive every year. But since your moral concern seems to vanish the moment the cord is cut, 'pro-birth' is the only honest label left for this logic. You care about the potential for life, but you are strangely indifferent to the actual survival of it once it enters the world. You're essentially standing on the shoulders of giants while complaining about the view.


Are you insane?
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Mattressburn said:

AggieT said:

Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Wow. That's your hindsight view of Covid and the vaccines?

The leap from decades of research to mere months of development is a generational triumph that most of human history would have considered magic. It is the biological equivalent of going from the Wright Brothers to SpaceX in a single bound. We have effectively cracked the code on human response times.

It is staggering to realize that we successfully deployed a smallpox vaccine before we even had a functional germ theory to explain why it worked. That was pure survival instinct backed by observation. Before the measles vaccine existed, we were losing 2.6 million human beings every year; that is a body count higher than the entire population of Houston wiped off the planet annually.

It is a special kind of irony that the 'pro-life' movement treats this speed as a conspiracy instead of a breakthrough. If you actually valued life as a raw metric, you would be the first to celebrate the science that keeps 2.6 million children alive every year. But since your moral concern seems to vanish the moment the cord is cut, 'pro-birth' is the only honest label left for this logic. You care about the potential for life, but you are strangely indifferent to the actual survival of it once it enters the world. You're essentially standing on the shoulders of giants while complaining about the view.


"Im hope all you anti vaxxers die"

Followed by

"Im more pro life than pro lifers"

Wow. How many boosters have you had?
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Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Most "anti vaxers" refused the shot because there was a 98 % chance you could survive without it. If Covid had been way more deadly then I would have taken the shot. So No, you can't kill us off that easily, we just made a logical choice between taking an experimental vax or accepting we had a very good chance of living even if we got Covid.
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Most of the Covid deaths in our town were unvaccinated people.
Who?mikejones!
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Most i know were very old or very fat

In fact, werent the vast vast majority of those dead with covid those with comorbidities?

A normal human being below 70 had almost no chance of death
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Viruses contribute to cancer. My mom just passed away due to a viral related cancer. Now vaccines like Gardasil help prevent terrible cancers. Vaccines are one of our greatest hopes to reduce cancer as viruses distort cells and start replicating. If the vaccine trains our immune system early it prevents the cancer before it begins.
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Ramdiesel said:

Mattressburn said:

The ironic thing or sad thing or whatever thing. Operation Warp Speed was one of the greatest accomplishments in human history in my opinion. Trump could own that if he wanted to. I think it succeeded despite him, but it would be his to own if he wanted it.

If I am speaking honestly though. Even though I know how herd immunity works and I realize there are those that literally can't be vaccinated because their body won't develop an immune response. Covid wasn't even that bad. Could've been a lot deadlier.


When something more contagious with a higher mortality count comes along. First I hope there is an easy vaccine. 2nd I hope you anti vaxxers stick to your guns.

The race of humanity will thank you for your sacrifice to the survival of the fittest. It sucks for those immunocompromised that you might infect with your ignorance literally, but we are past that. I did what I could do for them including calling out idiots who put them in danger.

Just looking at the 10,000 foot view though.

Thanks you're literally killing ignorance although you will suicide bomb a few around you. In the grand scheme of humanity I think that works out ok.




Most "anti vaxers" refused the shot because there was a 98 % chance you could survive without it. If Covid had been way more deadly then I would have taken the shot. So No, you can't kill us off that easily, we just made a logical choice between taking an experimental vax or accepting we had a very good chance of living even if we got Covid.

Cool

Can't wait to test that, bet the next one still requires an mRNA vaccine that might give you 5g.
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LOL at the injectable pretherapeutic

It sucked so bad at being a "vaccine" that they, literally, changed the definition of "vaccine" to accommodate said suckitude.
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I didn't get it.
I got fired.
I found another job.
I'm still alive.
Probably not for too much longer.
I hope I did not offend anybody with this post. If I did, please come see me at my address in my profile so we can talk.
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