Ok.

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Consolidating parishes and fitting services around the Hispanic community, rather than those who have carried the parish for generations.

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Like you go to mass.....

Ellis Wyatt said:

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Consolidating parishes and fitting services around the Hispanic community, rather than those who have carried the parish for generations.

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There are a lack of priests. Consolidation of parishes is happening and they are consolidating around existing parishes, which favor the traditional Catholics. Not illegals.

Strike one

Every parish has the optimum times filled with English speaking masses.

Strike two.

Want to go for strike 3?

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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Horse#&@# with the child trafficker nonsense. The Catholic bashing on F16 knows no bounds amd the "Oh yeah? Well……………..we do it less!" defense is tiresome. Yes, there are extra collections for CFC.

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When your church is wrong, it's okay to say so. You're obligated to, actually.

One thing we know historically is that the Catholic Church lets political reality overrule moral principles. The appropriate party from the Trump administration needs to meet quietly with this Pope and tell him to knock it off or there will be consequences. We can make things difficult for the interests of the Catholic Church around the world if they keep ****ing with us.

redcrayon said:

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B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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AGHouston11 said:

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nortex97 said:

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The US Bishops' boss lives in a literal walled city state protected by mercenaries armed with guns/spears, with a vault of untold wealth.

But Catholic Charities Arch-diocese of Houston-Galveston alone took over $82 million in government grants in 2024, about 80 percent of their revenue. So to fairly put it I consider it a political-business entity as much as a religious one. Joel Osteen-levels of hypocrisy.

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This was not subsidizing or charity to a church - this was intentionally giving money to an organization that is dedicated via their NGOs and church leadership to assist and aid in illegal immigration into the US.

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Of course……..thats the only use for charity money. Now do other denominations and their NGOs dedicated to immigrants. I'll help you out…..

Lutherans

Baptists

The list goes on and on……

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Let's ignore Catholic Charities is run by child traffickers and cultural marxists and primarily funded as NGOs.

Collection basket money does not fund Catholic Charities.

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Horse#&@# with the child trafficker nonsense. The Catholic bashing on F16 knows no bounds amd the "Oh yeah? Well……………..we do it less!" defense is tiresome. Yes, there are extra collections for CFC.

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When your church is wrong, it's okay to say so. You're obligated to, actually.

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And when false, and hypocritical allegations are hurled against it, one is obliged to defend it. This thread has gone from "Catholic Bishops want birthright citizenship in the U.S." (which is none of their business) to "Catholic Family Charities is trafficking children".

Buck Turgidson said:

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One thing we know historically is that the Catholic Church lets political reality overrule moral principles. The appropriate party from the Trump administration needs to meet quietly with this Pope and tell him to knock it off or there will be consequences. We can make things difficult for the interests of the Catholic Church around the world if they keep ****ing with us.

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Tump isn't going to do *****

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TxLawDawg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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He's talking about legal permanent residents or those on legitimate visas.

Im catholic. Catholic charities was / wants to take federal money to facilitate the trafficking of people across the border. That happened. The us bishops are causing great scandal.

My bishop is san Antonio talks left wing politics to the point I had to block him on Twitter.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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TxLawDawg said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Urban Ag said:

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MemphisAg1 said:

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Birthright citizenship for a baby born to even one parent here legally is a no-brainer.

Rejecting birthright citizenship to the offspring of parents who both came in illegally is also a no-brainer. It doesn't mean they're not human. It just means they're not an American citizen.

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Nah.

At least one parent that is a legal US Citizen.

At some point we need to make citizenship valuable again.

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That's what I said.

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That's not what you said. There's a difference between being here legally and being a citizen.

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If you're here legally and drop a child, they're a US citizen. The argument has been that people here illegally shouldn't get birthright privileges for their offspring, which I agree with. But I don't agree with moving the goalposts to require one of the legal parents to also be a citizen. That has not been the conversation.

Edit to add that Trump's EO is in between those two positions. He would require the parents to be a US citizen or a legal permanent resident, but he excludes those here legally on a visa.

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He's talking about legal permanent residents or those on legitimate visas.

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In the internet search I did, it drew a distinction between legal permanent residents and legal visitors (visas). The former's offspring would qualify for citizenship; the latter would not.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Im catholic. Catholic charities was / wants to take federal money to facilitate the trafficking of people across the border. That happened. The us bishops are causing great scandal.

My bishop is san Antonio talks left wing politics to the point I had to block him on Twitter.

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I'm no fan of Catholic Charities taking Federal funds to help illegals. Stated this as well as stated on how many of the political statements of the Pope go directly against the Catholic Church.

But they don't traffic anyone. That's just stupid.

Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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LOL, no. They provide food and shelter to people. They don't let people starve.

But I do get the narrative you are trying to shovel.

King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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LOL, no. They provide food and shelter to people. They don't let people starve.

But I do get the narrative you are trying to shovel.

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Pretty sure they move people between countries and states. Whether the charity "knowingly" does it is up for debate but they facilitate the movement of people.

Science Denier said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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LOL, no. They provide food and shelter to people. They don't let people starve.

But I do get the narrative you are trying to shovel.

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What kind of shelter does Catholic charities provide?

B-1 83 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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Yes! Like all of those! It's bad, right??

B-1 83 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did and therefore it's acceptable for the CC to do the same. Got it.

All of these NGOs claiming to be associated with "Christian" churches should be criticized for encouraging, aiding and abetting trafficking illegal immigrants.

bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did and therefore it's acceptable for the CC to do the same. Got it.

All of these NGOs claiming to be associated with "Christian" churches should be criticized for encouraging, aiding and abetting trafficking illegal immigrants.

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I said no such thing. The concept that CFS was somehow the lone church organization assisting migrants was what I pointed out. Helping people. CROSS THE BORDER is not good for any organization. Feed, clothe, and shelter them all you want.

My wife is catholic, my boys go to Catholic school, we go to a Catholic Church….. and the Bishops and Pope can FO and stop any and all talk of politics and humanitarian BS. They need to stay in their lane. The USA ENFORCING our laws in whatever manner we choose to enforce them is 10000% right, moral and correct and we don't need the opinion or care about what the Pope sitting on billions of $$ in a walled off city with armed guards has to say.

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Science Denier said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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LOL, no. They provide food and shelter to people. They don't let people starve.

But I do get the narrative you are trying to shovel.

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What kind of shelter does Catholic charities provide?

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These groups aid and abet illegal immigration, period. Just make it across the border amigo and find your nearest shelter. The hard parts over. Ellos te ayudaran, no problemo.

B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did and therefore it's acceptable for the CC to do the same. Got it.

All of these NGOs claiming to be associated with "Christian" churches should be criticized for encouraging, aiding and abetting trafficking illegal immigrants.

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I said no such thing. The concept that CFS was somehow the lone church organization assisting migrants was what I pointed out. Helping people. CROSS THE BORDER is not good for any organization. Feed, clothe, and shelter them all you want.

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Never intended to isolate the CC amongst the sea of bad actors. They are indeed one of many.

Use of migrants to describe illegal immigrants is telling.

B-1 83 said:

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bobbranco said:

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B-1 83 said:

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King of the Dairy Queen said:

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Facilitate the trafficking of people? Is that better? Because that's precisely what they did.

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Like Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did? If you are going to hurl BS, hit everyone.

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Baptists, Lutherans, Methodists, etc……..did and therefore it's acceptable for the CC to do the same. Got it.

All of these NGOs claiming to be associated with "Christian" churches should be criticized for encouraging, aiding and abetting trafficking illegal immigrants.

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I said no such thing. The concept that CFS was somehow the lone church organization assisting migrants was what I pointed out. Helping people. CROSS THE BORDER is not good for any organization. Feed, clothe, and shelter them all you want.

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What do they feed them, migraines?

Whatabout nuns in bad habits?

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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You can disagree and I do as well. But calling Catholic Bishops "losers" is not appropriate.

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They're just men. Like you and me.

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I am assuming you are not Catholic or well informed. I know they are men but don't compare yourself to someone who dedicates their entire lift to following God. That is insulting.

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stallion6 said:

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DonHenley said:

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Religion shouldn't play a role in politics so I don't care what these losers think

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You can disagree and I do as well. But calling Catholic Bishops "losers" is not appropriate.

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They're just men. Like you and me.

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I am assuming you are not Catholic or well informed. I know they are men but don't compare yourself to someone who dedicates their entire lift to following God. That is insulting.

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It's sad when people place other men on pedestals instead of looking directly at Christ. Enjoy your hierarchy I guess

Gratuitous 'other woke denominations play way too much insane politics around immigration as well' post/proof.

3 dudes 42 women. Women running the non biblical clown show

United Methodist Church is what happens when you turn your back on God and elect a coven of lesbians to lead https://t.co/KqISx9v8T4

— The Dank Knight 🦇 (@capeandcowell) February 27, 2026

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The Church isn't divine. It is led by sinners who are ostensibly following God. But they're still fallen men.

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That's not what that quote means; it means "of divine origin," as in 'the church Christ founded when he said he was founding a church.' Who founded your church?

But to return to the point of this post: that amicus brief is a joke. Trying to use what little moral authority your purely voluntary collegial organization has to support birth tourism is a new low for the committee that put the USCCB name on this brief. Wish my bishop would pull out of that group but he probably proofread the draft. I can't in good conscience give a dime to these worldly fools. Find other groups to support.