Ag Commissioner Sid Miller's plan to save BBQ (and lower beef prices)

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shiftyandquick
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In his press release he talks about the closing of BBQ restaurants, the rising price of beef, falling demand because of the price, and his plan for saving it. The plan is sparse on details, but I guess involves some kind of governmental intervention.

Also below a link from Texas Monthly, one of the golden lights of Texas journalism, about the closing of BBQ restaurants in Texas. Seems to be part of a larger trend of people cutting back discretionary spending in this greatest economy of all time, as some say.

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Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller today issued an urgent call to action to protect one of the state's most cherished cultural and economic traditions: Texas Barbeque. A troubling wave of restaurant closures and operational challenges is sweeping across Texas, driven by record-high beef prices, a national cattle herd at its lowest level in 75 years, persistent inflationary pressures, and a resulting softening of consumer demand.

Industry observations and local reports highlight longtime smokehouses in small towns and major cities either shuttering doors or significantly scaling back, as pitmasters grapple with squeezed margins amid rising input costs and reduced customer traffic. At the same time, backyard pitmasters know all too well the squeeze high beef prices have put on families across the state.

"We must find ways to lower beef prices without harming ranchers' livelihoods, ensuring Texas barbecue remains vibrant and accessible," Miller continued. "This is why I'm calling for an America First beef policy to rebuild our national cattle herd. We need to better incentivize ranchers to retain breeding stock, further expand grazing access, strengthen market transparency, and implement Mandatory Country of Origin Labeling to restore consumer trust."

Texas barbecue is more than just food. It represents deep-rooted Texas heritage and pride, generations of family traditions, small businesses, and vital jobs in rural and urban communities statewide. As brisket plate prices have risen to luxury levels rather than remaining an affordable Saturday tradition, too many Texas families are being priced out of their local favorites.

"Rising costs and stifled demand driven by high prices for quality beef are putting Texas barbecue businesses and backyard pitmasters at risk," Commissioner Miller stated. "Many small-town staples are already on the brink, with closures mounting over the past year. If this is a sign of things to come, we must act now."

Commissioner Miller emphasized that the current low cattle inventory signals a potential demand collapse for quality beef if unaddressed. "We cannot ignore this warning sign," he said. "I vow to fight for the entire supply chain, from the ranch to the smoker to the dinner table and take decisive steps now to preserve Texas as the undisputed barbecue capital of the world."


https://www.texasmonthly.com/bbq/higher-costs-fewer-customers-killing-texas-bbq-joints/


https://texasagriculture.gov/News-Events/Article/10792/Commissioner-Sid-Miller-Calls-for-Urgent-Action-to-Save-Texas-Barbecue
turfman80
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Well, I didn't see any specific steps or actions he will imploy…
Maroon Dawn
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I bet socialism and total Dem control would lead to a golden age of beef consumption wouldn't it?
Silent For Too Long
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Quote:

Also below a link from Texas Monthly, one of the golden lights of Texas journalism, about the closing of BBQ restaurants in Texas. Seems to be part of a larger trend of people cutting back discretionary spending in this greatest economy of all time, as some say.


Disposable income has gone up since 2024 and has nothing to do with rising beef prices. Its a supply issue that is downstream of an increased demand issue. There are other factors that caused that, but Buc-ee's expansion is a pretty big one.

bonfarr
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Texas Monthly has been a **** rag for decades not a golden light.
Logos Stick
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Texas Monthly is a liberal **** rag. Trump's economic policies are not the reason for high beef prices. Educate yourself before posting. Bar bbq joints are notoriously difficult to run profitably even when beef prices are reasonable.

I figured libs like the OP would jump for joy at this news since cows contribute to methane, which they believe causes global warming.
BigOil
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A lot of places simply suck and should never have been in business. Let them fail.
reineraggie09
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Forgive me if I am skeptical of literally everything Sid Miller says.

And government needs to stay out of the economy. How can you be a "conservative" and want to institute government economic controls. Yet another example of the Horseshoe theory.
Jugstore Cowboy
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I haven't noticed a troubling lack of BBQ places. Considering the explosion of BBQ joints the last 10 years or so, it was very unlikely they were all going to succeed.

It's getting to be like Starbucks, with competing operations across the street from each other. And the types of specialty places that Texas Monthly and assorted Foodie social media like to hype are probably more expensive to operate.

Personally, I can get by without eating dinosaur ribs at $20+ per rib.
maverick2076
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Lots of marginal BBQ places opened up in the last decade, when they could get by on a tasty sauce, overflow from better places, and high margins. Ones going out of business either weren't good enough BBQ to survive when customers are more selective, or couldn't run their business efficiently enough to pay their bills. It's not BBQ spots are an endangered species. Texas Monthly is garbage, and Sid Miller is an alarmist whose next good idea will be his first one.
Whoop2
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Cows and every other creature farts but global warming is a Gore fantasy that made him richer.
Whoop2
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Is it true he's going on 40 something trips on our dime out of the country this year?
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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one of the golden lights of Texas journalism,

Stopped reading right there
Deerdude
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Maroon Dawn said:

I bet socialism and total Dem control would lead to a golden age of beef consumption wouldn't it?


Hell, half of the libs actually compete with my cattle for food.
TXAG 05
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

I haven't noticed a troubling lack of BBQ places. Considering the explosion of BBQ joints the last 10 years or so, it was very unlikely they were all going to succeed.

It's getting to be like Starbucks, with competing operations across the street from each other. And the types of specialty places that Texas Monthly and assorted Foodie social media like to hype are probably more expensive to operate.

Personally, I can get by without eating dinosaur ribs at $20+ per rib.


It's just like the explosion of breweries in the past 10 years or so, and they are going out of business left and right. The market can only handle so many, and you have to be doing something different or special that sets you aside.
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Jugstore Cowboy said:

I haven't noticed a troubling lack of BBQ places. Considering the explosion of BBQ joints the last 10 years or so, it was very unlikely they were all going to succeed.

It's getting to be like Starbucks, with competing operations across the street from each other. And the types of specialty places that Texas Monthly and assorted Foodie social media like to hype are probably more expensive to operate.

Personally, I can get by without eating dinosaur ribs at $20+ per rib.

This.

I'm not eating some where that a plate of brisket is nearly 30 dollars. Some of these places are stupid expensive and for what, dry up meat and soy boy sides These BBQ joints need to die and stop wasting meat, that a lot of us guys who enjoy smoking at home can buy.
Can't decide if I want to be cute and cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions
Lone Stranger
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I emailed him to start a TDA campaign titled "Two more Teas....with your BBQ"
Deerdude
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Went to Millers in Llano last eeek. A pound of burnt ends, a whole chicken, a half link sausage and small potato salad, $110.
ToddyHill
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People need to take an Economics 101 course and focus on Supply & Demand.

Today's cattle herd is the lowest it's been since the 1950's. (that means Supply is low).

The price of beef is high because there are plenty of people who eat beef and have the disposable income to pay the price at its current levels (Demand is high).

Until demand falls off, or supply increases, prices won't decline. It's really that simple.
Deerdude
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You might also throw in a part of low inventory is due to border being closed . Hunted last week in Donora, Mx and saw some good looking steers and nowhere to go with them.
JB99
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Deerdude said:

Went to Millers in Llano last eeek. A pound of burnt ends, a whole chicken, a half link sausage and small potato salad, $110.


Ripoff
Deerdude
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Well, it's damn good bbq, in my opinion. Don't go often but I was passing through. I'll do it again next time. That's 3 meals for wife and I so breaking it down makes it easier to pay.
Psycho Bunny
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Deerdude said:

Went to Millers in Llano last eeek. A pound of burnt ends, a whole chicken, a half link sausage and small potato salad, $110.

Truth BBQ is about the same.

A brisket sandwich 16 plus tax and that's just for a sandwich. You want a pound of brisket 37 plus tax.

F those places. I'll BBQ from home.
Can't decide if I want to be cute and cuddly, or go blow some sh*t up.
Decisions decisions
Teslag
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Democrats openly hate cattle ranchers and the beef industry. It's a wild to come here and suggest anything otherwise.
Gaeilge
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Sid had run his course. I'm voting for Sheets
Ordinary Man
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Went to Terry Blacks on Barton Springs in Austin recently. Got a plate with 1/2lb brisket, 3 small pork ribs, small cup of beans, and tea, and it was $55.00!

Food was really good, especially the ribs, but it has gotten too expensive for me. As much as I like really good BBQ, I think it is pricing a lot of people out of the market.

The problem is if you get it by the pound you don't know what the total is as they are throwing things on the plate.
You then get surprised when everything is totaled up.
shiftyandquick
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I bought a traditional offset smoker about 1 year ago. New. 3/8" steel. So what I would call the real deal.

But I've been pretty disappointed with the price of brisket. I've smoked a lot of stuff, but I think I've only smoked 3 briskets. Because of the price.

And the only one that turned out great was the prime brisket (the most expensive). My theory now is that the quality of the brisket is the most important variable.

Those steak cuts are just outrageously expensive. I wonder who is buying them. There's going to be an entire generation of kids that doesn't grow up eating beef in any major quantity.
Deerdude
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Interesting. I've done about every grade of brisket and do best with the cheapest packer stuff I can find.
I think the worst brisket I ever did was a wagyu prime.
Gigem314
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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one of the golden lights of Texas journalism,

Stopped reading right there
More like the "UFO lights of Texas journalism."
Deerdude
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Gigem314 said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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one of the golden lights of Texas journalism,

Stopped reading right there
More like the "UFO lights of Texas journalism."


Austin journalism.
SunrayAg
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BigOil said:

A lot of places simply suck and should never have been in business. Let them fail.


This!

If you make good food I will buy it.

I'm tired of paying $30 bucks for a brisket sandwich that tastes like a$$.
bonfarr
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Yep. My son ordered a Dinosaur rib from Blacks in NB when I wasn't paying attention and one rib was over $30
CaptTex
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He's "raising alarm bells" because his ass is fixin to lose his cushy job. This dude spends more time parroting whatever talking point the broader republican party is broadcasting proclaiming to be "Trumps man in Texas", not that several other people aren't using that same sentiment, than he does actually being a commissioner. Demand needs to go down or we need to suddenly produce a huge amount of beef very quickly, which at the moment seems impossible.
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Silent For Too Long said:

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Also below a link from Texas Monthly, one of the golden lights of Texas journalism, about the closing of BBQ restaurants in Texas. Seems to be part of a larger trend of people cutting back discretionary spending in this greatest economy of all time, as some say.


Disposable income has gone up since 2024 and has nothing to do with rising beef prices. Its a supply issue that is downstream of an increased demand issue. There are other factors that caused that, but Buc-ee's expansion is a pretty big one.



Agreed. I don't have any real data, but seems like there are about 5x the number of BBQ joints today as there was 20 years ago. With beef prices rising, the demand at current prices has dropped and has to result in fewer BBQ joints. Maybe there was never enough demand for to keep the current number of joints afloat.
eric76
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Deerdude said:

Interesting. I've done about every grade of brisket and do best with the cheapest packer stuff I can find.
I think the worst brisket I ever did was a wagyu prime.

We had that at my high school 50 year reunion.

An old friend of mine raisies it on his farm/ranch and provided it for the meal. I was really looking forward to it.

I buy his Wagyu ground beef and really like it.

Eating the brisket, however, was like eating just the fat.
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