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e=mc2 said:

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rgag12 said:

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Prosperdick said:

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Well, that's huge!

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They aren't going to survive a filibuster and they aren't going nuclear, so it really isn't.

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They have the power to change the Senate Rule back to the talking filibuster. Once the filibuster is over, they can vote and get it passed.

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I'd be shocked if they even did that. The stupid filibuster is what all career politicians hide their cowardice behind and keeps them from having to get real crap done while they ride the gravy train in DC...The lazy Republicans don't want a standing/ talking filibuster any more than the DEMs; especially, all the old ones that have been their forever, and probably couldn't stand an hour without fainting or crapping their pants. Anything the Republicans do with the Filibuster, the DEMs will also do next time they take control.

In a sane world where the GOP was interested in winning, we'd have at least 57 senators right now, and Murk would be gone (and McConnell would have retired before becoming a CCP potato).

Could have also replaced Murkowski with the rightful winner Tshibaka

Instead, they funded Murky and let Laxalt and Masters lose intentionally with absolutely no funding https://t.co/81N66TtbzD

— Tyler Bowyer (@tylerbowyer) February 13, 2026

FTAG 2000 said:

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There's really no excuse for Thune. Go ahead and make the Dems filibuster an issue with 80% polling support in a midterm year.

Start running ads about the Dems just wanting to cheat while your prices go up, all the welfare fraud, etc.

Easiest thing ever.

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At this point he doesn't have the stomach for the fight or the GOP doesn't really want this to pass. Maybe they like being the dem's *****.

FTAG 2000 said:

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There's really no excuse for Thune. Go ahead and make the Dems filibuster an issue with 80% polling support in a midterm year.

Start running ads about the Dems just wanting to cheat while your prices go up, all the welfare fraud, etc.

Easiest thing ever.

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At this point I truly don't think he cares about Trump's agenda, or even keeping the majority at mid terms. Was surprised by him being leader because he's McConnell 2.0. Swamp rat. Unfortunatley we've seen what the left's true colors are and they're evil people that will do anything to maintain power. With how far left they've gone over the last 15 or so years, they will destroy the country in no time. We have to make the mid terms fair, or at least more fair than the last few elections. They've lost their voters so we have to disallow them from bringing in new ones!

If Trump or the Republican party have any leverage on Thune, they need to use it.

Thune, like McConnell, does not want conservatives in control. He's fine with Marxists being in control.

It is hard to believe that Thune supports Marxism. That makes no sense. Why?

MagnumLoad said:

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If Trump or the Republican party have any leverage on Thune, they need to use it.

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Thune is always going to be the last yes on a tight vote due to Senate procedures. Someone can reference it or I can try and find it later, but he does this in case its a tie (or even a loss) and he can vote no and reserve the right to call another vote or such.

I think they would rather get this to 60 if they can. But they are going to have to give something and that will likely be funding for implementation, concession on VBM, and probably some sort of poll watching nonsense. This part is just my gut, not based on anything specific other than watching this play out so far.

Watch their actions. The swamp.

From the AI machine…

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The Senate rule that allows the Majority Leader to vote "no" on their own motiontypically a vote to reconsider a failed measureis a parliamentary procedure rooted in Senate Rule XIII, which requires that a motion to reconsider come from a senator who voted on the prevailing side.

The Procedure: If a bill fails, the Majority Leader (or a designee) votes with the minority (No) to be on the "prevailing side".

The Purpose: By joining the winning side (which was "No" to the bill), they gain the procedural right under Rule XIII to move to reconsider the vote later.

Reintroduction: This allows the Leader to bring the measure back up for a vote at a more advantageous time (e.g., after changing minds or securing more votes).

Leader's Privilege: The Majority Leader also has priority of recognition, allowing them to make such motions effectively

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Just end the stupid filibuster with 50 votes. This is that important. The cowardice is disguising.

"Lordee! Lordee! Lordee! We can't expect those neeeegros to possibly take care of themselves! Us Democrat plantation owners need to guide them alongs their way! Don't disenfranchise them!" [/F16 plantation owning leftists]

"Damn women shouldn't be voting anyway!" F16 extreme rightists.

The democrats are the party of slavery. Not sure how anyone could believe they legitimately want to be the saviors of black people.

The votes are there call it majority leader, and get it passed. Quit messing around.

74Ag1 said:

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The votes are there call it majority leader, and get it passed. Quit messing around.

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It's not clear that the votes are there. You need 50 who will vote to change the filibuster from a simple 60 vote threshold to an actual standing filibuster where the opposition has to talk continuously to try and wear down the majority.

Collins is a no on that filibuster change. Until 50 agree to change it, it's not going anywhere.

MemphisAg1 said:

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74Ag1 said:

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The votes are there call it majority leader, and get it passed. Quit messing around.

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It's not clear that the votes are there. You need 50 who will vote to change the filibuster from a simple 60 vote threshold to an actual standing filibuster where the opposition has to talk continuously to try and wear down the majority.

Collins is a no on that filibuster change. Until 50 agree to change it, it's not going anywhere.

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Well find another Senator and the votes should be there if Collins is out and the Dem Senator comes on board
Call Thune (202) 224-2321
I just did or sit on your hands and give up like you
Do something!

Is this incorrect

The key words in your quoted post are "after a talking filibuster." The votes aren't there to enforce a talking filibuster. My two US Senators, Cornyn & Cruz, would be a yes on the talking filibuster, so there's nothing anybody in Texas needs to do about it.

You need to holler at people in Maine to get on Collins' ass, or folks in Alaska to turn up the heat on Murkowski.

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Ag83 said:

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REAL ID compliant drivers licenses require proof of citizenship.

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No they do not. You do not need to be a citizen to obtain a REAL ID. There are, in some states, something called "Enhanced ID" that DO suffice as proof of citizenship, but REAL IDs do not. I think the problem is people confuse two different requirements in the SAVE America Act.

The first is documented proof of citizenship in order to REGISTER to vote in federal elections. A REAL ID, alone does not do this.

The second is photo ID at the polling location to receive a ballot proving that you are who you say you are and are the person on the voter roll. REAL ID is acceptable for this purpose.

But you do not need to be a citizen to obtain a REAL ID.

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What am I missing here?

(b) Documentary Proof Of United States Citizenship.As used in this Act, the term 'documentary proof of United States citizenship' means, with respect to an applicant for voter registration, any of the following:
"(1) A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of the REAL ID Act of 2005 that indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States.
"(2) A valid United States passport.
"(3) The applicant's official United States military identification card, together with a United States military record of service showing that the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.
"(4) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government showing that the applicant's place of birth was in the United States.

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The confusion stems from this: several categories of lawful noncitizen residents in the USA can get a Real ID Driver License or REAL ID Card, and they often are in fact legally required to get one.

Thus, the REAL ID Drivers License issued by states is not proof of U.S. citizenship. REAL ID is proof of identity and legal presence in the United States.

FAQS from DHS website:

Does a REAL ID prove U.S. citizenship?

No. REAL ID verifies identity and legal presence, but it does not prove U.S. citizenship.

Can non-U.S. citizens get a REAL ID?

Yes, lawfully present non-citizens are eligible. This includes:

-- Lawful permanent residents (Green Card holders)
-- DACA or TPS recipients
-- Individuals with valid student or work visas (H1-B, etc)
-- Refugees and asylees

To qualify, a person must provide proof of lawful status (e.g., visa, I-94), in addition to the other standard REAL ID requirements.

MemphisAg1 said:

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The key words in your quoted post are "after a talking filibuster." The votes aren't there to enforce a talking filibuster. My two US Senators, Cornyn & Cruz, would be a yes on the talking filibuster, so there's nothing anybody in Texas needs to do about it.

You need to holler at people in Maine to get on Collins' ass, or folks in Alaska to turn up the heat on Murkowski.

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Cornyn and Cruz are mine too
Don't know anyone in Alaska or Maine but I'll call them myself
You can call too
Don't think you have to be in their state to call.
Give em heck

What's your point?
In order to vote must be a US citizen
Case closed

74Ag1 said:

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What's your point?
In order to vote must be a US citizen
Case closed

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They are trying to conflate two things to scare people.

You need proof of citizenship to REGISTER to vote. That's going to be a birth cert or a passport. On voting day(s), you will need to present a real ID that will be matched against the voter registration. In order to get the real ID, you would have had to show are a citizen or lawful resident.

Simply having a real ID on Election Day will NOT allow to vote. One must also be registered (to vote in the federal election).

It's straightforward until the libs start their fear mongering.

flown-the-coop said:

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74Ag1 said:

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What's your point?
In order to vote must be a US citizen
Case closed

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They are trying to conflate two things to scare people.

You need proof of citizenship to REGISTER to vote. That's going to be a birth cert or a passport. On voting day(s), you will need to present a real ID that will be matched against the voter registration. In order to get the real ID, you would have had to show are a citizen or lawful resident.

Simply having a real ID on Election Day will NOT allow to vote. One must also be registered (to vote in the federal election).

It's straightforward until the libs start their fear mongering.

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Is there anything in the act that addresses the mail in ballot issues? I'm convinced most of the fraud came from that.

I believe it did according to the poster with the major concerns noted.

B-1 83 said:

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"Lordee! Lordee! Lordee! We can't expect those neeeegros to possibly take care of themselves! Us Democrat plantation owners need to guide them alongs their way! Don't disenfranchise them!" [/F16 plantation owning leftists]

"Damn women shouldn't be voting anyway!" F16 extreme rightists.

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Well all women should be allowed to vote...


Except for psycho white liberal women. Those folks are not rational...

Susan Collins flips to a yes on the condition that no proof of citizenship on Election Day.

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Collins had previously expressed reservations about earlier iterations of the legislation, particularly provisions that would have required voters to present proof of citizenship, such as passports or birth certificates, each time they cast a ballot.

However, according to reporting from The Maine Wire, the current House-passed version of the SAVE America Act has removed that requirement, instead allowing state-issued identification to suffice, an adjustment Collins says was critical in securing her support.

"Requiring voters to produce passports or birth certificates on election day as opposed to just a state-issued ID would have placed an unnecessary burden on the voters. That provision is no longer in the bill and dropping this requirement was key to getting my support," Collins said.

"The law is clear that in this country only American citizens are eligible to vote in federal elections," Collins added.

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Dem-Commies will filibuster and declare this is the end of the world, but I think eventually bend the knee to allow a floor vote now.

I just don't understand someone like Collins. Seems like she is one who boils her hold outs down to an issue or two, usually already addressed like this, then comes in as a last minute yes.

It's dumb and a bit old school. We really need to evacuate the old school teat suckers puckering for their final drops of lactating Ensure before being tossed in the diaper genie.

Term limits. Congress will never do it. It will take a constitutional convention, which wouldn't be ratified. So just end the stupid filibuster NOW!

nortex97 said:

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Susan Collins flips to a yes on the condition that no proof of citizenship on Election Day.

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Collins had previously expressed reservations about earlier iterations of the legislation, particularly provisions that would have required voters to present proof of citizenship, such as passports or birth certificates, each time they cast a ballot.

However, according to reporting from The Maine Wire, the current House-passed version of the SAVE America Act has removed that requirement, instead allowing state-issued identification to suffice, an adjustment Collins says was critical in securing her support.

"Requiring voters to produce passports or birth certificates on election day as opposed to just a state-issued ID would have placed an unnecessary burden on the voters. That provision is no longer in the bill and dropping this requirement was key to getting my support," Collins said.

"The law is clear that in this country only American citizens are eligible to vote in federal elections," Collins added.

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Dem-Commies will filibuster and declare this is the end of the world, but I think eventually bend the knee to allow a floor vote now.

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Dark blue states will attempt to give voter id's to everyone. However, this is a step in the right direction.