El Paso Airspace Closed for 10 Days

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Pinochet
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eric76 said:

The following was reported as being in the NOTAM by at least one news source:

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THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NTL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROC MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL,

THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE ACFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE ACFT POSES AN IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT



Most TFRs (maybe all) that restrict flights like this and are designated NDA authorize deadly force. At one point even the Disney TFR had that language.
2wealfth Man
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BMX Bandit said:

AxelFoley85 said:

I can book a non stop to ELP with no issue. Guess they missed the memo and would gladly take your money.


They're probably guessing this won't actually last 10 days. Very easy to refund money.
Bit a horrible way to do business (if you care about your customers)

Evidently the FAA is highly concerned about passenger planes during this operation. Cartels must have got some pretty sophisticated air defense equipment from God knows where. Trash it all.
AxelFoley85
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Tinfoil hat - this could be the admins cover to go into Mexico and blast them.
GigEm17J
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My mom was affected by this. Was supposed to come visit us today flying to AUS and Southwest cancelled it right away.
Duffel Pud
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Underground scanning?
Pinochet
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There were a ton of overnight GPS outage notams over the last few weeks. That happens when the military is testing gps jamming. The strange part was that the areas covered were much bigger than I can ever remember. I bet that's related.
Burdizzo
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The Fall Guy said:

Mexican airspace is not closed and commercial flights there are still happening at Juarez airport.


Outbound flights from Juarez are delayed while they go search for jumper cables.
spadilly
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Here's what one of their City Reps is posting on Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElPaso/s/m1yH4BRxJV


Pinochet
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2wealfth Man said:

BMX Bandit said:

AxelFoley85 said:

I can book a non stop to ELP with no issue. Guess they missed the memo and would gladly take your money.


They're probably guessing this won't actually last 10 days. Very easy to refund money.
Bit a horrible way to do business (if you care about your customers)

Evidently the FAA is highly concerned about the about passenger planes during this operation. Cartels must have got some pretty sophisticated air defense equipment from God knows where. Trash it all.

Or they have **** air defense that we can't be sure wouldn't hit other stuff by accident.
YouBet
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I'm flying out of DAL in a bit. Doesn't give me the feel goods.
Kenneth_2003
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Teslag said:

agent-maroon said:

Crazy conspiracy thought - retaliatory Iranian drone strike on our Permian Basin oil infrastructure via partnership with Mexican cartels? Fits the timeline but way, way speculative


Then we'd close MAF too

Carlsbad...
Served by the Essential Air Services. Very low cost commercial flights
Rapier108
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Okay, so I don't remember the map of New Mexico as well as I thought. Sue me.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
CanyonAg77
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Rapier108 said:

itsyourboypookie said:

Gonna test some nukes
This has nothing to do with nuclear testing. We do that in Nevada.

Except we don't do that and haven't for decades
LMCane
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nhamp07 said:

Houston Lee said:

This seems like a really big deal.


The closure after 9/11 wasn't even 10 days


Cuba is closed for an entire month!

are they threatening to retaliate against an American airport since we closed down the Cuban airports with no Jet A fuel!
Dirty_Mike&the_boys
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The FAA lifted the restriction...... move on to the next pearl clutching topic......
"We're going to turn this red Prius into a soup kitchen!"
LMCane
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Rapier108 said:

trip said:

fort Bliss is a Large Missile range and has white sands next to it.

Fort Bliss is not next to White Sands.

I did the Bataan Death March Marathon back in 2008 at White Sands

the missile base is in New Mexico 44 miles from El Paso airport
Big Al 1992
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That's bizarre - lifted already?!
txags92
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Rapier108 said:

trip said:

fort Bliss is a Large Missile range and has white sands next to it.

Fort Bliss is not next to White Sands.

You are incorrect.

torrid
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Damn, I'm going to have to drive all night to meet up with Felina.
Zachary Klement
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Wild!
YouBet
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Probably a deep state mole to give advance warning to cartels we were coming. Wouldn't surprise me at all.

Now op is ruined. That's my tin foil hat reasoning.
MidlandOil$
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WTF? Is going on
TAMUallen
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Aust Ag
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JFF meme incoming…
SB IV
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We should retaliate
ETFan
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SB IV said:

We should retaliate


Mission accomplished.
JoeAggie15
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Just lifted.
Class of '94
JasonD2005
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"Disabling drones" is such a blue-baller
rausr
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torrid said:

Damn, I'm going to have to drive all night to meet up with Felina.


Well played.
CanyonAg77
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torrid said:

Damn, I'm going to have to drive all night to meet up with Felina.

Was waiting for a good Marty Robbins reference. He couldn't do his follow up "El Paso City" today, with no flights
Ag87H2O
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I assume whatever technology we used to disable the drones might have also impacted regular air traffic.
Zachary Klement
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Nothing ever happens.
CanyonAg77
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GPS, I would guess
Ag87H2O
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I like the way this War Department operates. Always keep the enemy guessing, and off balance.

Make them understand we have better technology and can take them out whenever we choose. Good for China and our other foreign enemies to see this as well. Keep the fear in them.
Mega Lops
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Rapier108 said:

trip said:

fort Bliss is a Large Missile range and has white sands next to it.

Fort Bliss is not next to White Sands.

 
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