Minorities and Women pilots - 50% of crashes only 10% of workforce per FAA

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Teslag
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tizzizzailslf04 said:

Nothing says "I'm backed into a corner and can't defend my arguments" like bringing up a GPA from 20 years and 3 degrees ago, lol. I had a great time that first year in college! Obviously I had to get serious after that, though.







No one has to "get serious" for a sociology degree.
tizzizzailslf04
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Teslag said:

tizzizzailslf04 said:

Nothing says "I'm backed into a corner and can't defend my arguments" like bringing up a GPA from 20 years and 3 degrees ago, lol. I had a great time that first year in college! Obviously I had to get serious after that, though.







No one has to "get serious" for a sociology degree.

Cool story. Do you have anything to say regarding this thread?

We can play the deep dive game if you want (I definitely think it was a quite tasteless of you to make those jokes about someone's suicide, and I can see why your friend would cut you off after that) but perhaps we should take that to a new thread and not pollute this one with things that aren't related?
Aggieland Proud
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lol! You really showed your a$& now. I'm not the poster that your comments are being directed back at. I was simply telling that you should treat people with respect, but you wouldn't know anything about that. Your Mother would be proud of you … not!!!!
tizzizzailslf04
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Aggieland Proud said:

lol! You really showed your a$& now. I'm not the poster that your comments are being directed back at. I was simply telling that you should treat people with respect, but you wouldn't know anything about that. Your Mother would be proud of you … not!!!!

I understand that you are not the original poster. I'm aware of how message boards work. But you posted in defense of the person I was replying to, so I responded to you. I asked you to show me where I was disrespectful but you didn't do it.

Lets try this..

Can you tell me what's respectful about being on a flight with a woman pilot who, in your (the poster who told the story that I was responding to) own words, did her job perfectly, but because you (the poster who told the story that I was responding to) are so opposed to the idea of women flying airplanes, you (the poster who told the story that I was responding to) make up fake reasons in your (the poster who told the story that I was responding to) mind on how the job she did was *actually* bad, and then go post about it on a public forum?

That, apparently, is totally fine to you, but someone coming to explain why the story is BS is "disrespectful"?
Pacifico
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rgleml said:

When I was transitioning from the Air Force to private life in the late 90's, I attended an airline seminar ran by Kit Darby. He asked how many women were in attendance. There was about 8% of the total. He said that 100% would get hired by a major airline. The rest of us, not so much.


Unfortunately this communist social engineering has been applied to pretty much every profession in America. Thank you for your service Airman.
Teslag
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tizzizzailslf04 said:

Teslag said:

tizzizzailslf04 said:

Nothing says "I'm backed into a corner and can't defend my arguments" like bringing up a GPA from 20 years and 3 degrees ago, lol. I had a great time that first year in college! Obviously I had to get serious after that, though.







No one has to "get serious" for a sociology degree.

Cool story. Do you have anything to say regarding this thread?

We can play the deep dive game if you want (I definitely think it was a quite tasteless of you to make those jokes about someone's suicide, and I can see why your friend would cut you off after that) but perhaps we should take that to a new thread and not pollute this one with things that aren't related?


The point of this thread is that DEI and diversity are trash. Sociology is the gutter of academia and the birthplace of said DEI trash. Ergo, someone that could barely hack a 2.8 in said field of study probably lacks a lot of credibility regarding anything DEI regardless of how it affects aviation.

We will however defer to you on ground effect.
Thunderstruck xx
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eric76 said:

I was on one airline one day going from Houston to New Orleans and it had a female pilot.

Landing in New Orleans, she landed so softly that it was difficult to even tell when we touched down. It was easily the softest landing that I have ever seen in anything but a helicopter. She got a large round of applause from nearly the entire cabin.

Except me. I have no idea how far we floated down the runway before touching down. I'd rather have a solid landing and not risk going off the end.


A broken clock is right twice a day. I guess you lucked into one of those times.
stetson
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That dude at the controls of the Prime Air aircraft that went down in Trinity Bay should never have been in the cockpit of that aircraft. Were he a white guy he wouldn't have been. That was DIE pure and simple.
CanyonAg77
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I was on one plane where people clapped on landing. Had an engine failure (or quick intentional shutdown) on a SW 737 in the late 1970s. We were probably 5000' AGL over Dallas, and they told us we were going back and landing. I wasn't too concerned, figured one engine on a 737 was good enough (it was).

But the FAs started running around taking bags and purses and cramming them in the hanging bag closet (remember those?) and then made us assume crash positions for what was an uneventful landing.

So people were pretty relieved.
Logos Stick
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I've been on two flights where people clapped on landing. Made an emergency landing once in Memphis. Flying into Colorado Springs another time and they had recorded 110 mph winds at the Air Force academy. I thought everyone was going to throw up before we touched down. Worst flight I've ever been on, white knuckles. It never happens in the US though. LoL
Pacifico
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stetson said:

That dude at the controls of the Prime Air aircraft that went down in Trinity Bay should never have been in the cockpit of that aircraft. Were he a white guy he wouldn't have been. That was DIE pure and simple.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Air_Flight_3591

Memory Hole.
CanyonAg77
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Aggieland Proud said:

IMO, that's what makes a DEI policy bad. The good, deserving minority candidates get tagged as DEI when they earned their spot. If we didn't force DEI, then the suspicious mindset of every minority being non-deserving would not exist. Let merit be the true deciding factor.

As the father of one who got to fly Vipers based on her merit, I 100% agree.
Aggieland Proud
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Keyboard tough guy aren't you. Your parents really should have taught you some manners. I'm through with you. Good night!
Ellis Wyatt
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And I feel for you in this regard. I know your daughter is a legitimate pilot who can fly with the best of them, unlike the woman who killed all those people over the Potomac. You should be proud.
Ogre09
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Science Denier said:

TA-OP said:

Flagged as false. OP claims DEI is responsible. 4 out of 8 and it must be because DEI? Fear mongering 101.

Why else would the stats be so skewed?

Some things are just not that hard.



Statistical analysis of the data shows we would only expect to see this dataset 0.5% of the time if it was random bad luck and not a statistically significant correlation. For a 10% population and 10% expected rate, we would see 0 of 8 43% of the time, 1 of 8 38% of the time, 2 of 8 15% of the time, and 3 of 8 3% of the time for comparison. So 4 of 8 accidents caused by 10% of the sample group is not a random occurrence despite the small sample size.
BigRobSA
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Ogre09 said:

Science Denier said:

TA-OP said:

Flagged as false. OP claims DEI is responsible. 4 out of 8 and it must be because DEI? Fear mongering 101.

Why else would the stats be so skewed?

Some things are just not that hard.



Statistical analysis of the data shows we would only expect to see this dataset 0.5% of the time if it was random bad luck and not a statistically significant correlation. For a 10% population and 10% expected rate, we would see 0 of 8 43% of the time, 1 of 8 38% of the time, 2 of 8 15% of the time, and 3 of 8 3% of the time for comparison. So 4 of 8 accidents caused by 10% of the sample group is not a random occurrence despite the small sample size.

combat wombat™
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I fully support the hiring of female and "minority" pilots, assuming they are the best qualified candidates.

The driver's seat isn't where we want DEI putting people. An operating room is the other place.
BigD_03
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cevans_40 said:

Who could have seen that coming?


Well, there was this one guy...
FCBlitz
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tizzizzailslf04 said:

eric76 said:

tizzizzailslf04 said:

eric76 said:

I was on one airline one day going from Houston to New Orleans and it had a female pilot.

Landing in New Orleans, she landed so softly that it was difficult to even tell when we touched down. It was easily the softest landing that I have ever seen in anything but a helicopter. She got a large round of applause from nearly the entire cabin.

Except me. I have no idea how far we floated down the runway before touching down. I'd rather have a solid landing and not risk going off the end.

Ignoring the fact that your story is almost certainly made up (plane fulls of passengers don't clap here in the states...ever),

You admittedly have no idea where the plane touched down, yet because there was a woman up there, you're just choosing to believe that it wasn't in the touchdown zone because you don't want to believe that a woman had a good landing? What a weird thing to say.

Also, why do you think you know who actually performed the landing?

It sounds like you were just angry that you had a woman pilot, and were looking for ANY reason to discredit that flight, even when you couldn't find a real one.

It's not made up and they did that time.

We definitely floated a ways down the runway -- I just don't know how far.

I wasn't angry about a woman pilot. It didn't bother me one bit.

Your imagination is working overtime.

Quickly, can you tell me where you're supposed to touchdown? Can you tell me what runway you landed on? Can you tell me how long that runway is? Can you also (like I asked in the first reply) tell me how it is that you know, from your seat in the back, who performed the landing?

Can you give me any kind of information to prove that you have any idea what you are talking about?

I'll wait…



Why does this remind me of my wife nagging me about how I load the dishwasher.
 
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