There is an interesting and scary video regarding Islam in England at



It is by the Queen's former chaplain Gavin Ashenden

At 23:17, he makes the comments:

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I was being driven through Egypt in about the year 2000 and my taxi driver was a Copt and I'd been at a retreat at a Coptic Orthodox monastery,

Taxi driver [said] I'm Cpptic Orthodox, too. He said, "You know, you've got to watch out in England because you know what happened to us, don't you?"

I said, "Well, I think I do, but tell me what happened to you."

"Well, we were Christian in Egypt. There weren't any Arabs here. We're not an Arabic country. The main character of the population was Coptic Orthodox. And the Arabs came in and they outbred us and to begin with, they were nice neighbors and then the moment they gained the upper hand, they began to persecute us, and now they blow us up, close down our churches, persecute us, and kill us and force us to be Islam is Muslims at the edge of the sword. You don't want that. That's how they work. You don't want that in England."

And I thought, "That's really quite interesting." And then over the last 25 years, I've seen the numbers of Islamic immigration multiply enormously. And you know 1% turns to 2 turns to 4 turns to 6 turns to 7 and suddenly the 7% have got 15 or 20 Muslim mayors throughout the country, ...

And then my brain said that during the Syrian crisis when we took in Syrian refugees I know the demographics in Syria and they're bout 90% Muslim 10% Christian. Then you would expect that if we took in Syrian refugees that 10% would be Christian. There weren't any Christians brought in.So the people running the home office during the Syrian crisis refused to let Christian refugees in and only let Muslim refugees in. Who's in charge of the Home Office that's doing that?

So it's not just King Charles talking about halal. ... Actually it comes to discovering that the home office deals with prioritizes Islamic immigration then the political ambitions of this particular group of people become less than statistical. They become actually quite threatening.

So you go from Sadiq Khan to all the other mayors and you say :What are you doing" and I happen to know what they were doing because I had a fairly liberal stage and I worked with a number of Islamic academic colleagues and they told me what they were going to do and the bottom almost dropped out of my world when I discovered.

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One thing I did as an academic was I organized interreligious colloquia and basically these are rather posh events when people who are very good at what they do get together and share their ideas and you get kind of brownie points if you can bring together Muslims, Christians, Jews, maybe a few Buddhists, perhaps a Bahai or two, you know, and some Seikhs will be good. ...

I worked with a ver eminent Islamic scholar in his 70s. He had a PhD. He was intellectually very reputable and known throught Europe. We got along very well. ... I organized this humdinger of a colloquium and some really high quality speakers international reputation and it lasted a day, but the university I taught at had a traffic problem at 5:00. The campus got really clogged and everyone tried to get off campus either by half past 3 or 4 if you could slip out in time or you were stuck till 7. ... We were approaching quater past 4 and my friend was the last person to speak. ... And then he kind of became evuncular (kind of like an uncle) and intimate ... .

"I don't mean like that. It's not about me. It's about the Islamic Republic of Great Britain."

I said, "Excuse me."

He said, "I haven't come here for me. I'd be happier in the old country." No, he said, "I';ve come here for the Islamic Republic of Great Britain. It's now clear it's going to happen in the lives of my grandchilldren. It's going so well it could happen in the lives of my children."

"I don't understand. Can you explain."

"Well yes. It's very simple. It's all about democracy and demography. And so democracy follows demography. There comes a point when we are here in such numbers that we get democratic weight and using our Democratric weight, we ask for Islamic culture. There are about 10 to 12 northern connivations (what's this?) over 50% of the population under 15 are Muslim. In 15 years time they'll have the vote and then over 50% of the voting population will be Muslim and at that point we will ask for Sharia law because it's democracy. We have the vote. We can ask for what we want. We can vote for what we want. We'll have Muslim politicians who will be our leaders and we'll vote for them and they'll give us what we want."

"You probably don't know, but Tony Blair received a delegation of our Islamic leaders a couple of years ago and the said to him we've got the North of England. It's now going to become Islamic. Why don't you cede it to us now and gain an enormous number of political kudos as being the politician who saw the future and made it happen in a kind of easy transitional way. We were very disappointed when he said no to us, but we said to him well, it'll happen anyway."

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It goes on and is quite scary. Everyone ought to listen to this.

Modern day Islamic Conquests.

They aren't stupid people. They're working the system in Europe and America (see Minnesota) to their advantage because we can't be bothered to look up from our phones or be concerned with anything other than the trivial pro sports teams we hold more dearly than our freedoms.

A good example of poor integration between Muslims and non-Muslims is shown for the Indian "empire". In 1947, Muslims demanded to be separated from non-Muslims which resulted in separate states. A period of forced migration followed. Estimated deaths were near 2 million people.

Muslims do not play well with others.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/29/the-great-divide-books-dalrymple

The U.S. is next

Commander Gorn said:

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The U.S. is next

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We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become

Another Israeli plot

One sad thing about it is that the traitors that brought this on the English people will never be punished.

Prince Harry to the Return/ Rescue!!! You would think that by now Charles or William would have stepped up…

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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One sad thing about it is that the traitors that brought this on the English people will never be punished.

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Nor ours. We who sound the alarm are considered right wing extremists and bigots. Liberals know not what they do-they are digging their own grave.
Talk to female teachers about how the Muslim boys refuse to mind and are disrespectful- just because they are females. But they are silenced.

bkag9824 said:

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Modern day Islamic Conquests.

They aren't stupid people. They're working the system in Europe and America (see Minnesota) to their advantage because we can't be bothered to look up from our phones or be concerned with anything other than the trivial pro sports teams we hold more dearly than our freedoms.

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Nope. It's worse than a lack of care. It's deliberate.It's because 47% of the population believes progressivism is great and diversity is a strength.

The only way to stop it here would be to ship every single muslim out. It would be unconstitutional. That's one of the few weaknesses of our constitution. You can't fix problems like this while following it to the letter. Eventually, Americans are going to come to a point where we either have to do something totally unconstitutional or we get swallowed by the muslim horde.

Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!

Im Gipper said:

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Another Israeli plot

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If you really believe that then you are very naive or you have your head in the sand.

Or you are a Muslim.

Got a Natty! said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Another Israeli plot

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If you really believe that then you are very naive or you have your head in the sand.

Or you are a Muslim.

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I'm being paid by Qatar

Im Gipper said:

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Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!

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That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.

Pretty funny that they went from "the sun never sets on the British Empire" to being conquered by Muslims in about 80 years.

Not really funny though, mostly sad.

And the globalists intend to do the same to us.

Most kingdoms fall from the inside. This was a calculated move by the left in the UK to bring in unfettered immigration. It will end up being their downfall.

It's been too late in the UK for about 10 years already

Anyone who is paying attention should be aware of this. The Islamic scholars who put out YouTube videos are pretty clear about this if you actually listen to what they say. The basic message is of course democracy is comparative ble with Islam as long as you have educated Muslims. What is meant by this is if they are "good" Muslims who follow the Quran then they will all vote the same….for laws that align with the Quran and accepted Hadith's.

There's a reason pure democracy was not seen as a viable form of governance even by the Greeks who basically invented it. It's mob rule and there's no better way to manipulate a mob than through religion (especially religious indoctrination).

Now as an agnostic I often I hear the argument "couldn't the same be said about Christianity or any religion". The answer is theoretically yes but pragmatically no. We have centuries of evidence that Christianity is capable of existing with other religions but, more specifically, we know the reason why. Christianity and, to a lesser extent Judaism, is more about individual spiritual connection with God. There are examples where groups get punished (e.g. Sodom) but in general whether you go to heaven or hell or are a "good" Christian has nothing to do with what other people are doing. This feature of the Bible allows for flexibility that doesn't exist in Islam. Muhammad was a ruler of a kingdom. Naturally he had sayings about how one should rule, what laws were necessary, etc. and he had compulsory requirements for Muslims that have nothing to do with your individual relationship with God. While Muslim's can stay out of other people's business as a minority group, there has been no example of a Muslim majority country in human existence that has reasonable levels of religious tolerance.

To me the solution is simple, prove in one of the numerous Muslim majority countries that you can be a functioning liberal society that tolerates other religions and beliefs and then we will allow significantly can't migration of Muslims into the West. Until then you can migrate between other Muslim countries or stay and fix your own.

DallasAg 94 said:

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I've said this since I graduated A&M... the only way forward is breedding.

It used to be ~7 people paying into SS for every recipient. Now it is like 1. Western culture birthrates are too low. Huge immigration is required by the West, if we want to sustain our entitlements. We just aren't birthing enough people.

Meanwhile... Muslim and Mormom birthrates are multipliers higher. Muslim population in their countries continues to grow. It is was only limited by Muslim v Muslim conflicts. Shia v Sunni.

The only place to really grow your population is to bring in people from countries looking to give them up.

Laugh at India all you want, but they aren't bringing in people from Pakistan and Bangladesh... not Muslims anyway. They are birthing tons if babies. And we're taking in many, much to other's chagrin.

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Well, the left has been pushing for Westerners to abort babies and keep birth rates down for years. If you cut entitlements and encouraged Americans to have more babies, you wouldn't need to bring in more people.

Muslims account far about 6% of the population in the UK... The biggest issue is the 35% that claim "no religion".

dmart90 said:

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Muslims account far about 6% of the population in the UK... The biggest issue is the 35% that claim "no religion".

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I guess you missed this:

"In 15 years time they'll have the vote and then over 50% of the voting population will be Muslim"

If you have something to refute that, can you post it?

dmart90 said:

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Muslims account far about 6% of the population in the UK... The biggest issue is the 35% that claim "no religion".

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This is the same issue in the US. The godless left.

DallasAg 94 said:

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I've said this since I graduated A&M... the only way forward is breedding.

It used to be ~7 people paying into SS for every recipient. Now it is like 1. Western culture birthrates are too low. Huge immigration is required by the West, if we want to sustain our entitlements. We just aren't birthing enough people.

Meanwhile... Muslim and Mormom birthrates are multipliers higher. Muslim population in their countries continues to grow. It is was only limited by Muslim v Muslim conflicts. Shia v Sunni.

The only place to really grow your population is to bring in people from countries looking to give them up.

Laugh at India all you want, but they aren't bringing in people from Pakistan and Bangladesh... not Muslims anyway. They are birthing tons if babies. And we're taking in many, much to other's chagrin.

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And why is breeding a problem? Because women don't want to make babies, they want jobs and money. Who did this? corporations who want cheap labor. All roads lead to greedy corporations.

The West thinks it is "modern" because it super-educated its women and gave them easy college admits and jobs, now the same West worries about babies.

Muslims don't educate their daughters as much, they definitely don't give them preferred status. They are outbreeding everyone.

See a pattern?

Highway6 said:

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Commander Gorn said:

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The U.S. is next

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We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become

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There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 40 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.

Hank the Grifter said:

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It's been too late in the UK for about 10 years already

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If they started an actual civil war, and filled buckets of blood, it could be changed. But they wont

Mas89 said:

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Prince Harry to the Return/ Rescue!!! You would think that by now Charles or William would have stepped up…

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King Charles seems to be rather enamored with the Muslams/Islams.

ts5641 said:

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Most kingdoms fall from the inside. This was a calculated move by the left in the UK to bring in unfettered immigration. It will end up being their downfall.

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That and the EU. With the EU, weren't they kind of stuck with having to allow the invasion?

doubledog said:

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A good example of poor integration between Muslims and non-Muslims is shown for the Indian "empire". In 1947, Muslims demanded to be separated from non-Muslims which resulted in separate states. A period of forced migration followed. Estimated deaths were near 2 million people.

Muslims do not play well with others.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/29/the-great-divide-books-dalrymple

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The Great Partition was drive much by Lord Louis and his Mountbatten Plan, one that his mentor Churchill opposed.

These groups had long not gotten along (for centuries) and the Brits as they did in much of the Middle East, Arabia, Persia, Africa just said "it you wont play civilly with one another, then we shall move you sorts here and you sorts there, draw a fancy line on some parchment and we will be most content".

Blaming Islam and Muslims for the acts of the British Empire seems a bit off target.

infinity ag said:

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And why is breeding a problem? Because women don't want to make babies, they want jobs and money. Who did this? corporations who want cheap labor. All roads lead to greedy corporations.

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Corporations are made up of individual people.

"For the love of money is the root of all evil." It's not corporations, it's people who are corrupt.

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!

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That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.

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Denaturalize and deport all fraudsters and criminals in the system, remove visas and deport, remove refugee status and deport, deny any asylum seekers at any hearing, etc. Accepted immigrants from those countries should be at zero.

It looks like we are going to be taking in English and French immigrants in about 10 years.

We hear more and more about Muslim/Islam communities within the US.

For example, there's a proposed Crescent Meadows Community in Greenville.

TAMU1990 said:

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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

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Im Gipper said:

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Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!

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That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.

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Denaturalize and deport all fraudsters and criminals in the system, remove visas and deport, remove refugee status and deport, deny any asylum seekers at any hearing, etc. Accepted immigrants from those countries should be at zero.

It looks like we are going to be taking in English and French immigrants in about 10 years.

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We need to halt immigration and refugees who are not likely to be willing to mix in with our culture and encourage those that are.

To my thinking, that would include increasing immigration from Mexico. We need more Christians.