Islam's scary progress in England -- it may be too late.

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BTKAG97
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Prediction:

The catalyst that starts WW3 will not be Communism, it will be the Islamafication of Great Britain and it will likely start the second Muslims conquer the country.
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eric76 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Im Gipper said:

Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!


That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.


Denaturalize and deport all fraudsters and criminals in the system, remove visas and deport, remove refugee status and deport, deny any asylum seekers at any hearing, etc. Accepted immigrants from those countries should be at zero.

It looks like we are going to be taking in English and French immigrants in about 10 years.

We need to halt immigration and refugees who are not likely to be willing to mix in with our culture and encourage those that are.

To my thinking, that would include increasing immigration from Mexico. We need more Christians.


Why not pause all immigration for 5 years and get our house in order before taking in more people? Start by repealing the Hart-Cellar Act of 1965 and the Immigration Act of 1990.
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dmart90 said:

Muslims account far about 6% of the population in the UK... The biggest issue is the 35% that claim "no religion".

I'd argue there are far more Christians who coddle Islam than those who are not religious. The not religious group - at least those who are not die hard leftists - are mostly indifferent.

What do I mean by "coddle"? There are far too many people in power in both the church (obvious Christians) and politics (those who declare a Christian faith) that go out of their way to capitulate to Muslims for what ever reason - to appear to not be "racist" or maybe to correct for past sins.
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flown-the-coop said:

doubledog said:

A good example of poor integration between Muslims and non-Muslims is shown for the Indian "empire". In 1947, Muslims demanded to be separated from non-Muslims which resulted in separate states. A period of forced migration followed. Estimated deaths were near 2 million people.

Muslims do not play well with others.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/29/the-great-divide-books-dalrymple

The Great Partition was drive much by Lord Louis and his Mountbatten Plan, one that his mentor Churchill opposed.

These groups had long not gotten along (for centuries) and the Brits as they did in much of the Middle East, Arabia, Persia, Africa just said "it you wont play civilly with one another, then we shall move you sorts here and you sorts there, draw a fancy line on some parchment and we will be most content".

Blaming Islam and Muslims for the acts of the British Empire seems a bit off target.

I disagree, Liaquat Ali Khan and the Muslim League were the driving force in the partition. He wanted separate states, Gandhi, Nehru and others wanted to keep the Indian Empire (which also included many Persian gulf areas) together. In the end the British agreed, to try and keep the peace.

See : //efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/studies/PDF-FILES/18_v21_1_20.pdf
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DallasAg 94 said:

I've said this since I graduated A&M... the only way forward is breedding.

It used to be ~7 people paying into SS for every recipient. Now it is like 1. Western culture birthrates are too low. Huge immigration is required by the West, if we want to sustain our entitlements. We just aren't birthing enough people.

Meanwhile... Muslim and Mormom birthrates are multipliers higher. Muslim population in their countries continues to grow. It is was only limited by Muslim v Muslim conflicts. Shia v Sunni.

The only place to really grow your population is to bring in people from countries looking to give them up.

Laugh at India all you want, but they aren't bringing in people from Pakistan and Bangladesh... not Muslims anyway. They are birthing tons if babies. And we're taking in many, much to other's chagrin.


I understand what you're saying regarding breeding but it's hard in today's world. I consider myself to be very blessed. I have three wonderful and successful daughters. But raising kids is expensive. I currently spend $37k a year between private school and out of state college. (CO School of Mines) I am still able to save for retirement but I am way behind due to losing half in my divorce. This is what I choose though because I want to raise children I never have to worry about struggling financially like I did. These third world cockroaches just breed like a hoard while living the lives of welfare queens.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

The only way to stop it here would be to ship every single muslim out. It would be unconstitutional. That's one of the few weaknesses of our constitution. You can't fix problems like this while following it to the letter. Eventually, Americans are going to come to a point where we either have to do something totally unconstitutional or we get swallowed by the muslim horde.

Actually we can top them from coming if we have leadership that values American culture.
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stallion6 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

The only way to stop it here would be to ship every single muslim out. It would be unconstitutional. That's one of the few weaknesses of our constitution. You can't fix problems like this while following it to the letter. Eventually, Americans are going to come to a point where we either have to do something totally unconstitutional or we get swallowed by the muslim horde.

Actually we can top them from coming if we have leadership that values American culture.


We've let a ton of them in already and they breed like rabbits. Stopping more from coming in is the easy part.
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I'm Gipper
Ellis Wyatt
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Only one party is even pretending to care about borders at all.
infinity ag
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GenericAggie said:

Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become


There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 49 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.


Are you sure they are Indian Mosques as opposed to Pakistani Mosques. I would expect Indians, being predominately Hindu, would build Hindu Temples.

I don't know myself, just asking.
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eric76 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Im Gipper said:

Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!


That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.


Denaturalize and deport all fraudsters and criminals in the system, remove visas and deport, remove refugee status and deport, deny any asylum seekers at any hearing, etc. Accepted immigrants from those countries should be at zero.

It looks like we are going to be taking in English and French immigrants in about 10 years.

We need to halt immigration and refugees who are not likely to be willing to mix in with our culture and encourage those that are.

To my thinking, that would include increasing immigration from Mexico. We need more Christians.


Amen to that, I have no problem with Mexicans and Latinos. Most of them are really good people. ICE should be leaving them alone, outside of the bad criminal elements amongst them that are here illegally..

In fact, Republicans/ Conservatives should keep improving and nurturing that relationship with Mexicans and Latinos, that is the only way forward to save "freedom loving" America outside of taking over the schools and curriculum taught at the schools.
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doubledog said:

flown-the-coop said:

doubledog said:

A good example of poor integration between Muslims and non-Muslims is shown for the Indian "empire". In 1947, Muslims demanded to be separated from non-Muslims which resulted in separate states. A period of forced migration followed. Estimated deaths were near 2 million people.

Muslims do not play well with others.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/06/29/the-great-divide-books-dalrymple

The Great Partition was drive much by Lord Louis and his Mountbatten Plan, one that his mentor Churchill opposed.

These groups had long not gotten along (for centuries) and the Brits as they did in much of the Middle East, Arabia, Persia, Africa just said "it you wont play civilly with one another, then we shall move you sorts here and you sorts there, draw a fancy line on some parchment and we will be most content".

Blaming Islam and Muslims for the acts of the British Empire seems a bit off target.

I disagree, Liaquat Ali Khan and the Muslim League were the driving force in the partition. He wanted separate states, Gandhi, Nehru and others wanted to keep the Indian Empire (which also included many Persian gulf areas) together. In the end the British agreed, to try and keep the peace.

See : //efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://pu.edu.pk/images/journal/studies/PDF-FILES/18_v21_1_20.pdf


You can disagree, but history is pretty clear on the role of Mountbatten (and this actually causing a significant disagreement with Churchill who wanted to keep all of "India" together to benefit the Crown) and it also excuses away the treatment of the Muslims but the Hindu people.

Below from the document you referenced which makes me question whether you read it or understand it.

Quote:

Contribution in Pakistan Movement
As a result of the elections of 1937, the Congress ministries were installed in the six Hindu majority provinces of UP, CP, Bombay, Madras, Bihar, and Orissa which functioned from July 1937 to November 1939. These provincial governments acted as if they were the "Hindu Governments" because they became very cruel on the Muslim population of their respective provinces.

The Muslim League leaders raised a strong voice against this cruelty. Liaquat Ali Khan raised his voice against the Congress Government cruelty on the Muslim in the UP Legislative Council. On this issue Special Session of the AIML was held in Calcutta on 17-18 1938 presided over by Jinnah who in his presidential address pointed out the Hindu cruelty against the Muslims in these aforementioned six provinces and quoted certain alarming instances. He also pointed out that when the Muslim Members of the Legislative Councils pointed out these cruelties, the Hindu Members of the Councils laughed at them and ridiculed them.

Quoting the example of Liaquat Ali Khan's pointing out this aspect in the UP Legislative Council, Jinnah said that when Liaquat was reciting the "tales of oppression on Muslims in difference places and was giving concrete instances in support of his allegations, what were the Congressmen in the House doing? They were laughing and ridiculing him." Jinnah further complained that actually "the sufferings of Muslims are, to the Congress, matters for mockery and laughter."
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infinity ag said:

GenericAggie said:

Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become


There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 49 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.


Are you sure they are Indian Mosques as opposed to Pakistani Mosques. I would expect Indians, being predominately Hindu, would build Hindu Temples.

I don't know myself, just asking.

I do not think mosques are denoted by race / country of origin.

And Frisco is 33% Asian, not Indian. Asian includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Central Asia, in addition to China, Nam, Japan, Indonesia, etc.
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Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become

And the kids will be, "What the ****, Dad? While you were out protesting for open borders, in between getting your man-bun trimmed, you weren't even thinking of MY future? Mom was too busy protesting for my right to affirmative care. What the **** were you two thinking?"

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Sad to see a once great nation that gave us Puritan theology, the Authorized King Janes Bible, and men of God such as Charles Haddon Spurgeon, the Wesley brothers, John Newton, John Bunyan, John Stott, Richard Baxter, and Martin Lloyd Jones has fallen to such depravity. Islam is demonic.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

infinity ag said:



And why is breeding a problem? Because women don't want to make babies, they want jobs and money. Who did this? corporations who want cheap labor. All roads lead to greedy corporations.


Corporations are made up of individual people.

"For the love of money is the root of all evil." It's not corporations, it's people who are corrupt.


Right.

That "people" is just one person - the CEO. Which is why these hated creatures are the worst.

When a CEO is corrupt and steals from the country, he must be jailed for life. Not fined and let go. Make him repent and hate his own life for turning many people jobless, homeless so that he could buy a new yacht.
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flown-the-coop said:

infinity ag said:

GenericAggie said:

Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become


There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 49 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.


Are you sure they are Indian Mosques as opposed to Pakistani Mosques. I would expect Indians, being predominately Hindu, would build Hindu Temples.

I don't know myself, just asking.

I do not think mosques are denoted by race / country of origin.

And Frisco is 33% Asian, not Indian. Asian includes India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Central Asia, in addition to China, Nam, Japan, Indonesia, etc.


OK. But the poster says Frisco has abour 13-14 Indian Mosques. Doesn't seem true to me. Which is why I asked for clarification.
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flown-the-coop
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That would not seem right to me either, unless there was a huge concentration from a particular area.

But also recall India has many many peoples. So do Frisco.

Could be they are all smaller so as to not draw as much attention?

Maybe it was posted, but how does it compare to other places of worship?
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I get where you're coming from, and want to give you props for the reasoned, measured response. I want to point out, though, that part of the issue here is the growth of secularism in the west. We can talk about this some more if you disagree, but that is itself an ideology, not the rejection of one, except it's anchored on subjectivity ("what's best for society" doesn't have any concrete definition in itself), and is vulnerable to influence from a structured ideology. The growth of Islam in the west goes hand in hand with the idea that all ideologies that aren't "harmful" are equally valid, despite the fact that part of Islamic doctrine permits adherents to deceive others if done for the promotion of Islam itself. (Not saying that's your mindset in particular, but that's what we're observing in general.) And as we also see with proponents of socialism or communism, people can willfully disregard historical evidence that some ideologies are demonstrably harmful long-term, as long as you can convince enough people that those ideologies just weren't implemented "the right way."

If we tell people not to do something, they need to have some framework to fall on to determine why beyond "look at what happened last time," because we're seeing that's not enough.
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A Muslim takeover of the US and attempted forced Sharia law will be quite interesting and futile. Just too many guns in the hands of citizens in my opinion. That is the biggest difference between us and the UK
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Guns don't do any good when people are too distracted, or too comfortable, or too beaten into submission to use them.

We'll see how far the current counterrevolution we're in is really willing to go. We're about to watch a half time performer sing in a dress, and we just watched a political propaganda warm up band perform on the most watched national event.

The culture war is raging and it's unclear who's going to win.
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DarbGolf said:

A Muslim takeover of the US and attempted forced Sharia law will be quite interesting and futile. Just too many guns in the hands of citizens in my opinion. That is the biggest difference between us and the UK


ha ha.


Cowardly Cowboys in Texas are too scared to throw out scammers in Texas. Islamic city coming up in Dallas area. 100000 mosques.

Even here I read advice to shut shop and run.
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infinity ag said:

GenericAggie said:

Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become


There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 49 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.


Are you sure they are Indian Mosques as opposed to Pakistani Mosques. I would expect Indians, being predominately Hindu, would build Hindu Temples.

I don't know myself, just asking.


Sorry, I mixed two diff topics really. I agree with your statement - roughly 15% of Indians are Muslim.
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infinity ag said:

DarbGolf said:

A Muslim takeover of the US and attempted forced Sharia law will be quite interesting and futile. Just too many guns in the hands of citizens in my opinion. That is the biggest difference between us and the UK


ha ha.


Cowardly Cowboys in Texas are too scared to throw out scammers in Texas. Islamic city coming up in Dallas area. 100000 mosques.

Even here I read advice to shut shop and run.


I agree. That Texas grit is long gone from the population. Texans love to talk a big game, but I don't know if we would actually do anything.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

stallion6 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

The only way to stop it here would be to ship every single muslim out. It would be unconstitutional. That's one of the few weaknesses of our constitution. You can't fix problems like this while following it to the letter. Eventually, Americans are going to come to a point where we either have to do something totally unconstitutional or we get swallowed by the muslim horde.

Actually we can top them from coming if we have leadership that values American culture.


We've let a ton of them in already and they breed like rabbits. Stopping more from coming in is the easy part.

Don't include me in the "We" and stopping more from coming in will only happen if Republicans win elections. Otherwise we will go back to open borders.
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Ramdiesel said:

eric76 said:

TAMU1990 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Im Gipper said:

Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!


That's true, but getting rid of the legal muslims already here, that are breeding like rabbits, would be.


Denaturalize and deport all fraudsters and criminals in the system, remove visas and deport, remove refugee status and deport, deny any asylum seekers at any hearing, etc. Accepted immigrants from those countries should be at zero.

It looks like we are going to be taking in English and French immigrants in about 10 years.

We need to halt immigration and refugees who are not likely to be willing to mix in with our culture and encourage those that are.

To my thinking, that would include increasing immigration from Mexico. We need more Christians.


Amen to that, I have no problem with Mexicans and Latinos. Most of them are really good people. ICE should be leaving them alone, outside of the bad criminal elements amongst them that are here illegally..

In fact, Republicans/ Conservatives should keep improving and nurturing that relationship with Mexicans and Latinos, that is the only way forward to save "freedom loving" America outside of taking over the schools and curriculum taught at the schools.

Not following your logic. Anyone that comes here illegally should be deported. I have relatives that are Hispanic and Americans. They are great people. All of them think illegal aliens should be deported.

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This is how radical islam will get nuclear weapons.
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

infinity ag said:

DarbGolf said:

A Muslim takeover of the US and attempted forced Sharia law will be quite interesting and futile. Just too many guns in the hands of citizens in my opinion. That is the biggest difference between us and the UK


ha ha.


Cowardly Cowboys in Texas are too scared to throw out scammers in Texas. Islamic city coming up in Dallas area. 100000 mosques.

Even here I read advice to shut shop and run.


I agree. That Texas grit is long gone from the population. Texans love to talk a big game, but I don't know if we would actually do anything.


Alaskans would just sit back and laugh watching these turds try to survive their first winter up there.
infinity ag
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GenericAggie said:

infinity ag said:

GenericAggie said:

Highway6 said:

Commander Gorn said:

The U.S. is next

We may not be next because most of the EU is ahead of us. But we are sure as hell on the list. I would give it 20-30 years. I'll be dead by then but my kids and grand kids will have to live (or perhaps die) in the hell our country will become


There are 40 mosques in Frisco, a city of 250K, 33% Indian. Caucasian was 67% in 2020 down to 47% today. I realize a smaller percentage of Indians are Muslim but 49 mosques? Go to your map software and there mosque in your own city.


Are you sure they are Indian Mosques as opposed to Pakistani Mosques. I would expect Indians, being predominately Hindu, would build Hindu Temples.

I don't know myself, just asking.


Sorry, I mixed two diff topics really. I agree with your statement - roughly 15% of Indians are Muslim.


Right. But that is in India (15-20% of Indians are Muslim). But among the immigrants it is a far lower number as most are not educated (well... maybe that's not a criteria anymore because America likes cheap, not educate/capable anymore). Most go to Saudi Arabia and other places from what I am told so among the Indians in the US, they may be 2-3%.
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Im Gipper said:

Keeping out Muslim immigrants is NOT unconstitutional!


And there is no reason to bring Middle Eastern "immigrants" (if that's what are) halfway around the world to live here. Plenty of countries near them to take them in.
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stallion6 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

stallion6 said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

The only way to stop it here would be to ship every single muslim out. It would be unconstitutional. That's one of the few weaknesses of our constitution. You can't fix problems like this while following it to the letter. Eventually, Americans are going to come to a point where we either have to do something totally unconstitutional or we get swallowed by the muslim horde.

Actually we can top them from coming if we have leadership that values American culture.


We've let a ton of them in already and they breed like rabbits. Stopping more from coming in is the easy part.

Don't include me in the "We" and stopping more from coming in will only happen if Republicans win elections. Otherwise we will go back to open borders.


Excuse me. I meant the left let a ton of them in.
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