aggie93 said:
infinity ag said:
aggie93 said:
infinity ag said:
Texag5324 said:
Infiniti Ag, where you at??
Dow said Thursday it will cut some 4,500 jobs, turning instead to artificial intelligence and automation as it looks to streamline operations. That's about 13% of the chemicals giant's workforce, per Reuters. Dow expects to see a profitability bump of at least $2 billion as a result.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-29/dow-to-cut-about-4-500-jobs-using-ai-to-boost-operations?srnd=homepage-americas
Thanks for posting this. I saw it here first, so you beat me to it. As for where I was at, just had gone out to drop my daughter to school.
Well done, proud of you! This is becoming a movement.
Sad to hear the news though. This "turning to AI" is nonsense as they know it is the most believable among those who are clueless about current AI.
Anyway, layoffs cannot be stopped but companies laying off should be blocked from H1Bs.

I agree with you on how this should limit H-1s but the evil CEO thing is something else. AI is going to reduce the need for jobs, that's just a fact you can choose to deal with or not. If a company can do something more efficiently and profitably with AI or robotics vs employees they need to do it and if the CEO doesn't do it they will be fired themselves and someone else will. Companies have to make a profit to survive or else another company will take their place. That's just the world. When you are talking about a chemical company it makes lots of sense that AI and robotics will be a big part of what they do. You have a lot of dangerous jobs for humans that are better done by robots. You have a lot of analysis of chemicals that can be done more efficiently with LLMs. You have jobs in HR, Finance, and elsewhere that can also be done with fewer people.
Jobs have been eliminated like this ever since the Industrial Revolution began, they get created and then they get eliminated when they are no longer useful. You can blame CEOs if you want I guess but it's dumb. Dow is owned by shareholders that are spread across hundreds of thousands of people in mutual funds and those shareholders are looking for returns on their investment or else they will find someone else who will. That's capitalism. Much better to embrace the future than to scream at the sky.
I just said this in a different thread, but I don't really care if they layoff. Or give their C levels bonuses. But no H1Bs and no offshoring incurs a huge tariff. That is what I want. That is capitalism. If you have an unending supply of labor, it is not capitalism.
CEOs today are a joke, no one takes them seriously anymore. "laying off for AI" ha ha. Well good for them.
Still not seeing how you square the circle of H-1s and AI/Robotics. We could eliminate all H-1s and will still see a lot of jobs eliminated by AI/Robotics. It's not like the Amazon warehouses that are rapidly becoming giant robot rooms are impacted by H-1s, there are virtually no H-1s working in a warehouse moving boxes and shipping goods.
Also don't really get the hatred for CEOs as a general rule. I can get how you hate this CEO or that but every company has to have a leader and they are ultimately responsible to the owners and shareholders to make profit or else they will be out of a job. You can hate on them for using visas if you want I guess but unless they are doing something illegal or fraudulent they are simply playing playing the game as it stands. If they can hire better or cheaper talent but don't because of a visa and their competitor does they are at a disadvantage. The problem is a system issue. The key is reforming the system.
Reminds me of the famous Trump debate where Hillary tried to chide him for avoiding taxes and he said, "Of course I do" and pointed out essentially not the hate the player hate the game.
AI isn't the reason these companies are laying off 10k and 20k people. I know that for a fact. Satya Nadella himself expressed his fear about AI's use cases and monetization. So these CEOs lie when they layoff. They fool people into believing that the management is blameless and this AI thing just happened. Of course the C levels will manage to get huge bonuses for this "cost saving".
AI in robotics, sure. Amazon has been doing this for years and years so nothing's really changed in the last 6 months. The people who got laid off are software engineers and product/program managers, not warehouse stackers or janitors.
But then Amazon will claim that they don't have skills in the US so they need H1Bs.
I have observed this for more than 25 years. CEOs screw up and then fire the innocent lowest level people to cover up, and get large bonuses. If they get fired, they get paid there also. Happened to the CEO of my previous employer.
It's pretty easy to see why there is so much hate for CEOs in general - just like there is a lot of recent hate for Indians (in the US). They brought it upon themselves with their poor ethics and terrible behavior.
Also, more than the CEOs, I hold US politicians responsible. They framed rules with more holes than Swiss Cheese and did not change them when they saw exploitation. They failed. CEOs however, though possibly legal, showed how unethical they are. It is like someone buying a big screen TV just before the superbowl, using it and returning it. Legal but unethical.