FBI Raiding Fulton County Election Office

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aggiehawg said:

I wasn't engaging. I was openly laughing at him. Bless his heart.

If he really did pull the lever for Kamala, bless his heart indeed.
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GeorgiAg said:

60 Judges - both R and D, GOP officials, three vote counts, current versions of Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, Claude, Meta, Mitch McConnell after the impeachment vote speech, six years, Attorney General Bill Barr, documentary they had to pull and apologize for, FoxNews paying 3/4 of a billion dollars, other pending defamation lawsuits still going on - all wrong, only lack of standing, must be RINOs,

vs.

One guy is a narcissistic nut who can't accept that he lost an election.


Gotta be the former. /f16



Stop using logic. Dear Leader CLEARLY won by tens of millions of votes. Pretty sure he never lies, AND has super thick skin. Anybody who believes otherwise is a deep state, Marxist libtard.
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Prosperdick said:

aggiehawg said:

I wasn't engaging. I was openly laughing at him. Bless his heart.

If he really did pull the lever for Kamala, bless his heart indeed.

I did not vote for that hag. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump for good. Didn't work. Dude is like herpes. I don't even remember the name of the candidate anymore. Independent. But that's how I voted last election.

I am happy with Trump on policy: immigration, foreign (military) relations, deregulation, military, drug cartels, Venezuela, etc.. . Not happy about tariffs or what he's done with foreign relations outside of military interventions where needed. I think he is a horrible human being and unfit to be POTUS. I've learned to largely ignore his antics.

I will vote for R for Georgia Senate and for happily for Vance, Rubio or DeSantis in 2028. Just no more Trump.

I don't think he won the 2000 election. I think the Democrats are incompetent and there is no way they could pull this off. Also, I think relaxed rules during Covid led to more "unmotivated" people voting since they could vote by mail. And these people who are too lazy to vote in a normal election voted D or against Trump. Trump motivates a lot of people to vote - for AND against him. And Stacy Abrams was very effective in getting people registered to vote in the urban areas.

I also think Trump saying there are "15 spots" that need election intervention is Trump saying he wants to figure out a way to depress voting in these urban areas or otherwise rig the elections in his favor.
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None of what you posted proved a single thing. There was tons of fraud. Of course the beneficiaries of the fraud waved their hands and dismissed it.
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Once again, bless your heart.
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Yet your posts prove that you ARE a Democrat at heart. You're not interested in America first and don't care if people cheat in elections. That's cool. Makes no sense, but just own it.
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DeschutesAg said:

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To any reasonable person that has the courage to actually look at the evidence there is convincing evidence of large scale coordinated election fraud in registrations and ballot fraud.



Where is this convincing evidence? Sworn affadavits and numerous allegations of election fraud were submitted in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and were all found to be false.

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The Georgia AG in 2020 refused to investigate when given evidence and sworn affidavits because he was a "team player" and Governor Kemp didn't want an investigation. Kemp later appointed him to be a state judge.


The Georgia AG since 2016 has been Chris Carr. He isn't a state judge.

I have been GeorgiAg since 2000!
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GeorgiAg said:

60 Judges - both R and D, GOP officials, three vote counts, current versions of Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, Claude, Meta, Mitch McConnell after the impeachment vote speech, six years, Attorney General Bill Barr, documentary they had to pull and apologize for, FoxNews paying 3/4 of a billion dollars, other pending defamation lawsuits still going on - all wrong, only lack of standing, must be RINOs,

vs.

One guy is a narcissistic nut who can't accept that he lost an election.


Gotta be the former. /f16



I see in your post that you have addressed none of the evidence that we have seen on this forum for people who prefer to think for themselves as opposed to take the word of biased, financially interested, and politically interested commentators.

Would you care to comment on, out of the 61 court cases the Trump supposedly lost, how many were dismissed based on lack of standing or latches? Do you even know?
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GeorgiAg said:

Prosperdick said:

aggiehawg said:

I wasn't engaging. I was openly laughing at him. Bless his heart.

If he really did pull the lever for Kamala, bless his heart indeed.

I did not vote for that hag. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump for good. Didn't work. Dude is like herpes. I don't even remember the name of the candidate anymore. Independent. But that's how I voted last election.

I am happy with Trump on policy: immigration, foreign (military) relations, deregulation, military, drug cartels, Venezuela, etc.. . Not happy about tariffs or what he's done with foreign relations outside of military interventions where needed. I think he is a horrible human being and unfit to be POTUS. I've learned to largely ignore his antics.

I will vote for R for Georgia Senate and for happily for Vance, Rubio or DeSantis in 2028. Just no more Trump.

I don't think he won the 2000 election. I think the Democrats are incompetent and there is no way they could pull this off. Also, I think relaxed rules during Covid led to more "unmotivated" people voting since they could vote by mail. And these people who are too lazy to vote in a normal election voted D or against Trump. Trump motivates a lot of people to vote - for AND against him. And Stacy Abrams was very effective in getting people registered to vote in the urban areas.

I also think Trump saying there are "15 spots" that need election intervention is Trump saying he wants to figure out a way to depress voting in these urban areas or otherwise rig the elections in his favor.

He didn't


GWB did.
You can turn off signatures, btw
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GeorgiAg said:

Prosperdick said:

aggiehawg said:

I wasn't engaging. I was openly laughing at him. Bless his heart.

If he really did pull the lever for Kamala, bless his heart indeed.

I did not vote for that hag. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump for good. Didn't work. Dude is like herpes. I don't even remember the name of the candidate anymore. Independent. But that's how I voted last election.

I am happy with Trump on policy: immigration, foreign (military) relations, deregulation, military, drug cartels, Venezuela, etc.. . Not happy about tariffs or what he's done with foreign relations outside of military interventions where needed. I think he is a horrible human being and unfit to be POTUS. I've learned to largely ignore his antics.

I will vote for R for Georgia Senate and for happily for Vance, Rubio or DeSantis in 2028. Just no more Trump.

I don't think he won the 2000 election. I think the Democrats are incompetent and there is no way they could pull this off. Also, I think relaxed rules during Covid led to more "unmotivated" people voting since they could vote by mail. And these people who are too lazy to vote in a normal election voted D or against Trump. Trump motivates a lot of people to vote - for AND against him. And Stacy Abrams was very effective in getting people registered to vote in the urban areas.

I also think Trump saying there are "15 spots" that need election intervention is Trump saying he wants to figure out a way to depress voting in these urban areas or otherwise rig the elections in his favor.

Most of these 15 spots got tens of $millions of Zuckerbucks. We need some retraining on acceptable behavior for poll workers and poll watchers and the interactions between the two.
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I will continue to read and look at this stuff and reevaluate but I just don't find this stuff to be credible.
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GeorgiAg said:

I will continue to read and look at this stuff and reevaluate but I just don't find this stuff to be credible.

The numbers speak for themselves. Guess you don't find the numbers credible. You've lived around Atlanta too long.
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BusterAg said:

GeorgiAg said:

60 Judges - both R and D, GOP officials, three vote counts, current versions of Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, Claude, Meta, Mitch McConnell after the impeachment vote speech, six years, Attorney General Bill Barr, documentary they had to pull and apologize for, FoxNews paying 3/4 of a billion dollars, other pending defamation lawsuits still going on - all wrong, only lack of standing, must be RINOs,

vs.

One guy is a narcissistic nut who can't accept that he lost an election.


Gotta be the former. /f16



I see in your post that you have addressed none of the evidence that we have seen on this forum for people who prefer to think for themselves as opposed to take the word of biased, financially interested, and politically interested commentators.

Would you care to comment on, out of the 61 court cases the Trump supposedly lost, how many were dismissed based on lack of standing or latches? Do you even know?

I am not going to sit down, research and read all those cases. Sounds like a good job for A.I. According to Gemini (the paid version -full thinking on) 30 were dismissed on the merits. 20 on lack of standing/laches and 10 were voluntarily dismissed.

Again, I am not going to take the time to do that.
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GeorgiAg said:

I am not going to sit down, research and read all those cases. Sounds like a good job for A.I. According to Gemini (the paid version -full thinking on) 30 were dismissed on the merits. 20 on lack of standing/laches and 10 were voluntarily dismissed.

Again, I am not going to take the time to do that.

But here's the rub. People like Hawg (and several others) spent years of their lives researching the 2020 election and chasing down all the various rabbit holes, politicians, companies, who owned those companies, court cases, affidavits, articles, studies, etc.

They did spend the time. You didn't. So I think most logical people would look to the folks who put the time in to learn everything about this.

And they don't seem to agree with you.
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Again, I am not going to take the time to do that.

of course you won't. People who want to stay ignorant stay ignorant and happily so. Ignorance is bliss after all.

So maybe sit this one out?
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GeorgiAg said:

BusterAg said:

GeorgiAg said:

60 Judges - both R and D, GOP officials, three vote counts, current versions of Grok, ChatGPT, Gemini, Copilot, Claude, Meta, Mitch McConnell after the impeachment vote speech, six years, Attorney General Bill Barr, documentary they had to pull and apologize for, FoxNews paying 3/4 of a billion dollars, other pending defamation lawsuits still going on - all wrong, only lack of standing, must be RINOs,

vs.

One guy is a narcissistic nut who can't accept that he lost an election.


Gotta be the former. /f16



I see in your post that you have addressed none of the evidence that we have seen on this forum for people who prefer to think for themselves as opposed to take the word of biased, financially interested, and politically interested commentators.

Would you care to comment on, out of the 61 court cases the Trump supposedly lost, how many were dismissed based on lack of standing or latches? Do you even know?

I am not going to sit down, research and read all those cases. Sounds like a good job for A.I. According to Gemini (the paid version -full thinking on) 30 were dismissed on the merits. 20 on lack of standing/laches and 10 were voluntarily dismissed.

Again, I am not going to take the time to do that.

Really Smart Guy-> Look at the evidence that the election wasn't rigged!! All these courts said so!

BA-> Any idea about whether any of those court cases were judged fairly?

RSG-> I don't have time to actually look at the evidence I am citing. 60 self-interested judges that were scared to death of the political fallout of COVID couldn't all be cowards, could they?. Orange Man Bad!

BA-> Yes. Yes they could be cowards, the lot of them. And were.

RSG->Yeah, but the numbers are so great against Trump, I'm just going to stick with citing my evidence without actually looking, because it is a great talking point.

BA-> Well, some people are interested in truth over narrative, but, to each their own.
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DeschutesAg said:

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To any reasonable person that has the courage to actually look at the evidence there is convincing evidence of large scale coordinated election fraud in registrations and ballot fraud.


Where is this convincing evidence? Sworn affadavits and numerous allegations of election fraud were submitted in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and were all found to be false.

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The Georgia AG in 2020 refused to investigate when given evidence and sworn affidavits because he was a "team player" and Governor Kemp didn't want an investigation. Kemp later appointed him to be a state judge.


The Georgia AG since 2016 has been Chris Carr. He isn't a state judge.


I can't tell if you are being deliberately obtuse or are truly ignorant. Of the ~60 cases filed across the country, almost every single one was dismissed by judges on the basis of lack 99f standing without ever entering the evidence into the record or evaluating it. To claim that the evidence was lacking without the evidence ever being allowed to be presented is part of the corruption. No admission of evidence means it can't be appealed and heard by a higher court.

The evidence seized by the DoJ documenting the fraudulent counting of ballots in Georgia, the existence of hundreds of thousands of counterfeit ballots that were all scanned copies.

The evidence of deliberate fraud in the design of the Dominion and Smartmatic voting machines and software was suppressed and when those making the allegations, Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell, were sued by Smartmatic, the evidence of fraud and tampering that they alleged was ruled in admissible so they could not even use it to defend themselves. The DoJ and state courts didn't only refuse to hear the cases abd look at the evidence, they used the tort system to financially destroy those who tried to file protests in the courts.

Tina Peters was jailed (and remains in state prison) for 9 years over collecting evidence of tampering with Dominion voting machines prior to the 2020 election that documented violations of the Colorado law on certifying the voting machines' software before the election. Peters showed that the Colorado Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold, had posted the admin passwords for the state's voting machines on a public facing website for months prior to the election that would allow anyone with physical access to access the software abd break certification. The state of Colorado imprisoned Peters for allegedly doing what the Colorado Secretary of State actually did.

Worse yet, 4G LTE and 3G GSM modems have been found to be installed hardware on the circuit boards of Dominion and Smartmatic machines that allowed external real time access.


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Jovan Hutton Pulitzer lays out in the video below how the election was stolen in the state of Arizona.

https://www.youtube.com/live/nMD-yfaL_cU?si=wVbZH8Zl-3LtiRf_

This is evidence that has never been heard by a jury under the Biden DoJ. Thanks to the Trump DoJ, it's being investigated and will be filed in courts where it won't be dismissed by corrupt judges and the evidence will be evaluated.


Most of what you alleged in this post is incorrect.

Let's start by understanding the categories of cases that were filed.

Two-thirds of the 60+ court cases did not allege voter fraud or election fraud. They were filed to contest legal technicalities, election procedures, or interpretations of election law language. The Trump side lost on all of those, although they did win one legal technicality case initially. It was later overturned at the state supreme court level.

So let's look at just the lawsuits that alleged election fraud, widespread voter fraud, election machine fraud, and other improprieties of a criminal nature.

Some of the lawsuits alleging fraud never reached a preliminary hearing / preliminary examination stage because the plaintiffs subsequently withdrew the cases. Those cases were filed and publicized, and then withdrawn. Draw your own conclusions on why that was done.

Other pro-Trump lawsuits were dismissed at the preliminary hearing stage. In some of these, witnesses were heard, and claims of fraud and improprieties were examined by judges and then ruled against on the merits. Others were dismissed for other reasons, but the judges added in their writings that the cases were unlikely to succeed based upon the evidence that had been presented.

In some of the preliminary hearings, when questioned directly by the presiding judge, the plaintiff attorneys admitted they were not alleging any actual fraud occurred.

As for Tina Peters, she acted stupidly and intentionally broke several laws. In my opinion, the 9 year sentence was overly harsh. I hope the Colorado governor commutes her sentence to 5 years, which ought to be sufficient to discourage future similar crimes by election officials.
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Then seems like there is no reason to be concerned about this raid, what it does / does not uncover and so on.

Also, seems like there is no reason to oppose the SAVE Act.

Why be so defensive if there is nothing to hide?
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If there's no fraud, then even better that we ensure there will continue to not be. I can't think of a single legitimate reason to oppose the proposals. They'd just shut up the conspiracy theorists.

Don't you agree?
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As for Tina Peters, she acted stupidly and intentionally broke several laws. In my opinion, the 9 year sentence was overly harsh. I hope the Colorado governor commutes her sentence to 5 years, which ought to be sufficient to discourage future similar crimes by election officials.

How about the federal crimes she exposed by taking such actions?
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"sHow mE tHe aKtUaL eViDeNcE" [/all libs in 2021]
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After Biden took office in January 2021, several conservative groups and conservative thinktanks including bigtime conservative lawyers and retired Republican judges examined every case filed by Trump's lawyers and by pro-Trump groups regarding the 2020 election.

The resulting reports can be found on the internet.

Here are a few:

https://societyfortheruleoflaw.org/trump-2020-court-challenges-rejected-on-merit/

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qfvavvua3g6dksnzl9ils/TrumpClaims.pdf?rlkey=rnig91049e5js1hprelig4ij9&e=2&dl=0

https://will-law.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/2021ReviewStudy127.pdf

https://lostnotstolen.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Lost-Not-Stolen-The-Conservative-Case-that-Trump-Lost-and-Biden-Won-the-2020-Presidential-Election-July-2022.pdf

One of the most significant decisions rejecting Trump's claims was written by Judge Stephanos Bibas of the Third Circuit, a well-known Trump appointee, and previously a prominent conservative legal scholar at the University of Pennsylvania:

"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."
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Who was trying to steal the election?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/trumps-challenges-2020-election-unfolded-courtroom-rcna175490

It wasn't the Establishment Republicans nor the Democrats. It was Trump and a faction of Trump Republicans.
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"Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so. Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

Know how I know you are not a lawyer? And that appellate judge does not know procedure?
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Evidently RedditGPT is reflective of the site it relies upon.

Dems are so confident that our elections are secure that you don't even need an ID or be registered to vote! In fact, they say you CANT show ID, you CANT make someone prove they are a citizen, you CANT maintain voter roles, you CANT limit vote by mail in any way, you CANT demand the machines and software be looked into, you CANT see the audit logs, you CANT do hand recounts, you CANT review and verify signatures.

For a party so adamant that there is not a thing amiss with elections, that they limit a bunch of things that would make elections secure.

It's weird to me.
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From the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.

https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/203371np.pdf
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DeschutesAg said:

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To any reasonable person that has the courage to actually look at the evidence there is convincing evidence of large scale coordinated election fraud in registrations and ballot fraud.



Where is this convincing evidence? Sworn affadavits and numerous allegations of election fraud were submitted in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and were all found to be false.

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The Georgia AG in 2020 refused to investigate when given evidence and sworn affidavits because he was a "team player" and Governor Kemp didn't want an investigation. Kemp later appointed him to be a state judge.


The Georgia AG since 2016 has been Chris Carr. He isn't a state judge.

Here's the references. It wasn't a state attorney who refused to investigate the 2020 election fraud in Georgia but the head of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Vick Reynolds.

In Sept 2022, former Georgia GOP Senate candidate David Perdue was testifying before the grand jury that Fulton County DA Fani Willis empaneled to indict Donald Trump under RICO (the same case for which Willis is now whining that she has to pay Trump's court costs). In that same 2020 election, Perdue was running for Senate and lost to John Ossoff and had seen evidence of election fraud that he believed had robbed him of the Senate seat.

David Perdue testified under oath that he had received a call in November 2021 from GBI Director Vick Reynolds at the direction of Governor Brian Kemp to tell Perdue that despite the Governor having seen video, cell phone, and bank record evidence of ballot harvesting (a crime in Georgia) that he would not open an investigation Governor Brian Kemp did not want an investigation into the 2020 election in Georgia. Reynolds told Perdue that he was a "team player" and would not go against the governor's wishes regardless of evidence to justify an investigation.







May 2021 Gov Kemp is shown evidence of large scale fraud in Georgia in the 2020 election
Nov 2021 Vick Reynolds calls David Perdue to tell him that there wasn't going to be an investigation regardless of evidence
June 2022 Gov Kemp appoints Vick Reynolds to be the Superior Court Judge of Cobb County
Sept 2022 David Perdue testifies under oath to the above in front of a Grand Jury



https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/gbi-director-vic-reynolds-appointed-to-cobb-bench/OU4UQQHDYZBTNJEIXC4DZQM7CM/

None of this evidence has ever been entered into evidence in a hearing on election fraud. It was never ruled on by a judge or jury. Yet, it is a matter of record in the RICO witch hunt that Fani Willis ran against Trump.
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I'm all for making sure no one can steal elections. Surely you agree.
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GeorgiAg said:

You all know you can just post this crap into ai now and get the answer, right?

Try it:

"Is there evidence of election fraud in the Georgia in 2020 presidential election that could have possibly changed the result?"

You can't make crap up with AI. It looks at all the known knowledge on the planet in seconds. But I'm sure Don is going to have his crack team SIX YEARS later uncover the fraud.

How good are your records from six years ago? He's going to find "missing" or "inadequately stored" records from six years ago and claim unsubstantiated fraud. There are reasons for statutes of limitations. Lack of evidence is not evidence. Pigeon is gonna knock over the chess pieces, **** on the board and claim victory.

It still amazes me that a solid 30% of the country believes whatever the man says.

OK man, wow. AI is far from infallible. Far too much of AI is GIGO (garbage-in, garbage-out) because it ingest heavily manipulated data like that from reddit and wiki to name a few. It also relies on human algorithms which can be manipulated to direct data that matches while suppressing data that doesn't match. It wasn't even a year ago where AI was generating images of founding fathers being black.

Considering anything unsubstantiated should have a MASSIVE asterisk until data is turned over for review and long standing questions about issues are answered with actual data. The simple fact that none of these AG's or election officials can provide reports and audits following the processes they are required by law to follow should be a GIANT red flag.
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Ulysses90 said:

DeschutesAg said:

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To any reasonable person that has the courage to actually look at the evidence there is convincing evidence of large scale coordinated election fraud in registrations and ballot fraud.



Where is this convincing evidence? Sworn affadavits and numerous allegations of election fraud were submitted in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and were all found to be false.

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The Georgia AG in 2020 refused to investigate when given evidence and sworn affidavits because he was a "team player" and Governor Kemp didn't want an investigation. Kemp later appointed him to be a state judge.


The Georgia AG since 2016 has been Chris Carr. He isn't a state judge.

Here's the references. It wasn't a state attorney who refused to investigate the 2020 election fraud in Georgia but the head of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Vick Reynolds.

In Sept 2022, former Georgia GOP Senate candidate David Perdue was testifying before the grand jury that Fulton County DA Fani Willis empaneled to indict Donald Trump under RICO (the same case for which Willis is now whining that she has to pay Trump's court costs). In that same 2020 election, Perdue was running for Senate and lost to John Ossoff and had seen evidence of election fraud that he believed had robbed him of the Senate seat.

David Perdue testified under oath that he had received a call in November 2021 from GBI Director Vick Reynolds at the direction of Governor Brian Kemp to tell Perdue that despite the Governor having seen video, cell phone, and bank record evidence of ballot harvesting (a crime in Georgia) that he would not open an investigation Governor Brian Kemp did not want an investigation into the 2020 election in Georgia. Reynolds told Perdue that he was a "team player" and would not go against the governor's wishes regardless of evidence to justify an investigation.







May 2021 Gov Kemp is shown evidence of large scale fraud in Georgia in the 2020 election
Nov 2021 Vick Reynolds calls David Perdue to tell him that there wasn't going to be an investigation regardless of evidence
June 2022 Gov Kemp appoints Vick Reynolds to be the Superior Court Judge of Cobb County
Sept 2022 David Perdue testifies under oath to the above in front of a Grand Jury



https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/gbi-director-vic-reynolds-appointed-to-cobb-bench/OU4UQQHDYZBTNJEIXC4DZQM7CM/

None of this evidence has ever been entered into evidence in a hearing on election fraud. It was never ruled on by a judge or jury. Yet, it is a matter of record in the RICO witch hunt that Fani Willis ran against Trump.


Lawyer: Objection. Hearsay.

Judge: Sustained.

Where is Reynolds' testimony? Where is the compelling evidence? I remember at the time seeing video that "looked suspicious," but then it was explained and turned out to be nothing.
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Ulysses90 said:

DeschutesAg said:

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To any reasonable person that has the courage to actually look at the evidence there is convincing evidence of large scale coordinated election fraud in registrations and ballot fraud.



Where is this convincing evidence? Sworn affadavits and numerous allegations of election fraud were submitted in Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin, and were all found to be false.

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The Georgia AG in 2020 refused to investigate when given evidence and sworn affidavits because he was a "team player" and Governor Kemp didn't want an investigation. Kemp later appointed him to be a state judge.


The Georgia AG since 2016 has been Chris Carr. He isn't a state judge.

Here's the references. It wasn't a state attorney who refused to investigate the 2020 election fraud in Georgia but the head of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation, Vick Reynolds.

In Sept 2022, former Georgia GOP Senate candidate David Perdue was testifying before the grand jury that Fulton County DA Fani Willis empaneled to indict Donald Trump under RICO (the same case for which Willis is now whining that she has to pay Trump's court costs). In that same 2020 election, Perdue was running for Senate and lost to John Ossoff and had seen evidence of election fraud that he believed had robbed him of the Senate seat.

David Perdue testified under oath that he had received a call in November 2021 from GBI Director Vick Reynolds at the direction of Governor Brian Kemp to tell Perdue that despite the Governor having seen video, cell phone, and bank record evidence of ballot harvesting (a crime in Georgia) that he would not open an investigation Governor Brian Kemp did not want an investigation into the 2020 election in Georgia. Reynolds told Perdue that he was a "team player" and would not go against the governor's wishes regardless of evidence to justify an investigation.







May 2021 Gov Kemp is shown evidence of large scale fraud in Georgia in the 2020 election
Nov 2021 Vick Reynolds calls David Perdue to tell him that there wasn't going to be an investigation regardless of evidence
June 2022 Gov Kemp appoints Vick Reynolds to be the Superior Court Judge of Cobb County
Sept 2022 David Perdue testifies under oath to the above in front of a Grand Jury



https://www.ajc.com/news/crime/gbi-director-vic-reynolds-appointed-to-cobb-bench/OU4UQQHDYZBTNJEIXC4DZQM7CM/

None of this evidence has ever been entered into evidence in a hearing on election fraud. It was never ruled on by a judge or jury. Yet, it is a matter of record in the RICO witch hunt that Fani Willis ran against Trump.



The alleged evidence Perdue is referring to, isn't that the True The Vote stuff from Catherine Engelbrecht, Dinesh D'Souza, and Greg Phillips?

The state of Georgia looked into those allegations. They learned True The Vote didn't have anything. It was a scam. A lucrative one. They duped a lot of people.

The Georgia State Board of Elections even filed a lawsuit to compel TTV to provide the alleged evidence.

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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported in February 2024 that True the Vote said in a filing with the Fulton County Superior Court in response to the Election Board lawsuit that "it doesn't have documents about illegal ballot collection, the name of its purported informant or confidentiality agreements it previously said existed."


The state of Arizona also took TTV's allegations and made-up claims seriously, and investigated.

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In October 2022, the office of Republican Arizona attorney general Mark Brnovich referred True the Vote to the FBI and IRS for possible investigation, finding that Engelbrecht and Phillips had falsely told the office they had given their data to the Phoenix FBI office and were working as informants there, while telling the FBI office, the Arizona Senate and the public they had given their data to the attorney general's office, though they had not.

Brnovich's office said True the Vote claimed to have evidence of 243 mules in Arizona, but presented no proof. The attorney general's office also suggested True the Vote's tax exempt nonprofit status should be examined.


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You can't make crap up with AI.

ummmm...
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I wasn't engaging. I was openly laughing at him. Bless his heart.

If he really did pull the lever for Kamala, bless his heart indeed.

I did not vote for that hag. I voted for Biden to get rid of Trump for good. Didn't work. Dude is like herpes. I don't even remember the name of the candidate anymore. Independent. But that's how I voted last election.

I am happy with Trump on policy: immigration, foreign (military) relations, deregulation, military, drug cartels, Venezuela, etc.. . Not happy about tariffs or what he's done with foreign relations outside of military interventions where needed. I think he is a horrible human being and unfit to be POTUS. I've learned to largely ignore his antics.

I will vote for R for Georgia Senate and for happily for Vance, Rubio or DeSantis in 2028. Just no more Trump.

I don't think he won the 2000 election. I think the Democrats are incompetent and there is no way they could pull this off. Also, I think relaxed rules during Covid led to more "unmotivated" people voting since they could vote by mail. And these people who are too lazy to vote in a normal election voted D or against Trump. Trump motivates a lot of people to vote - for AND against him. And Stacy Abrams was very effective in getting people registered to vote in the urban areas.

I also think Trump saying there are "15 spots" that need election intervention is Trump saying he wants to figure out a way to depress voting in these urban areas or otherwise rig the elections in his favor.


So you're a Republican who voted for a guy who could barely put a coherent sentence together? Why exactly?

And to your other points, you just think that pretty much every news station claiming that he won before everyone went to bed before waking up to almost 200k votes magically found at 3 am all for BIden in a swing state that decided the election wasn't fishy at all?
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For me, the stories of lawyers trying to use AI to write pleadings and briefs and getting called out by judges for citing nonexistent cases was a huge warning flag.

Legal research can be tedious but it is also very formulaic. Certain steps in a certain order which includes running updates to ensure the cases one is citing have not been overruled by a later case. Citation forms are strict but again follow a set of rules.

All of which could be written into software to do. We already have search engines specifically for legal research which use databases. If WestLaw and LexisNexis can do it, why can't AI?

Because it is not designed to do so is my only logical conclusion.
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All of which could be written into software to do. We already have search engines specifically for legal research which use databases. If WestLaw and LexisNexis can do it, why can't AI?

All of cases, law, and data can be integrated into AI. The funny part would be to watch what AI does with just the factual data dropping "the spin."

Trying to imagine the absolute enjoyment I would have in watching an emotionless AI model facts against written law and see how many judges strutting around like Bill Klem/Doug Harvey while they are actually Angel Hernandez calling legal balls and strikes.

ETA: I am betting there aren't too many lawyers/judges lining up to have their cases ripped apart by AI. They will claim context but it is 'feelz' and legislating from the bench in so many cases.
 
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