whatever gets them shut down

KingofHazor said:

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FatZilla said:

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Prostitution was pretty much legal everywhere back then. I bet there is a high correlation to its outlaw and the rise of rape and other sex crimes.

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What the heck are you talking about? Prostitution was legal when and where? When was it outlawed and where? What rise in rape and other sex crimes? How can you make that assertion when there is zero data to support it?

Are you just making stuff up to support you conclusion?

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What do you mean when? A simple Google search provides your answer. It was legal is pretty much every state until between 1910-1915 with it still legal in Nevada to this day. The correlation is between easy access to buy what you want vs making it illegal leading to those who want it now just taking it instead. Thus a rise in sex crimes post ban. There are many studies showing this exact correlation which you would see again with a simple search.

One example study
https://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/decriminalizing-prostitution-linked-to-fewer-stds-and-rapes

Here's one from Europe.
https://chicagounbound.uchicago.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?params=/context/jle/article/2738/&path_info=720583._Do_Prostitution_Laws_Affect_Rape_Rates.pdf

Although he was talking about Joanne, his wife of 50 years, Paul Newman said, "Why go out for hamburger, when you have steak at home?"

Men know the ending from an OF session whereas the bar/dating scene is more unsure.

aggiehawg said:

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Although he was talking about Joanne, his wife of 50 years, Paul Newman said, "Why go out for hamburger, when you have steak at home?"

Men know the ending from an OF session whereas the bar/dating scene is more unsure.

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those 49.99 to 99.99 dollar videos are sometimes cheaper than dating/marrying.

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Actually all legislation is someone's morality.

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The debate is practically over with this post, can't star it enough. Society outlaws things it deems immoral.

No complex questions of "well if I only murder hopeless drug addicts, is that really that bad?" or "well pornography doesn't seem to have that big of a statistical impact in these areas, is it really that bad?" That's all unworkable, absurd utilitarianism.

The question is which moral framework should we follow?

gooners love their porn because of the messages. Pathetic losers.

Sophie Rain is about as mid as a content creator can get. Maybe a 6...maybe...

This is all money laundering anyways.

KingofHazor said:

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FatZilla said:

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Prostitution was pretty much legal everywhere back then. I bet there is a high correlation to its outlaw and the rise of rape and other sex crimes.

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What the heck are you talking about? Prostitution was legal when and where? When was it outlawed and where? What rise in rape and other sex crimes? How can you make that assertion when there is zero data to support it?

Are you just making stuff up to support you conclusion?

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Is this a serious question?

For someone who has read a LOT of history, it should be a given that prostitution was widespread and either legal or tolerated up through the early 20th century. Every city in Texas had a red light district before the War Department demanded they be shut down. The growth of the female vote also fueled vice crackdowns.

And it remains legal in some places today, both in Nevada and other parts of the world.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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KingofHazor said:

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FatZilla said:

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Prostitution was pretty much legal everywhere back then. I bet there is a high correlation to its outlaw and the rise of rape and other sex crimes.

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What the heck are you talking about? Prostitution was legal when and where? When was it outlawed and where? What rise in rape and other sex crimes? How can you make that assertion when there is zero data to support it?

Are you just making stuff up to support you conclusion?

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Is this a serious question?

For someone who has read a LOT of history, it should be a given that prostitution was widespread and either legal or tolerated up through the early 20th century. Every city in Texas had a red light district before the War Department demanded they be shut down. The growth of the female vote also fueled vice crackdowns.

And it remains legal in some places today, both in Nevada and other parts of the world.

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Have people forgotten about the Chicken Ranch.

Jugstore Cowboy said:

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KingofHazor said:

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FatZilla said:

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Prostitution was pretty much legal everywhere back then. I bet there is a high correlation to its outlaw and the rise of rape and other sex crimes.

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What the heck are you talking about? Prostitution was legal when and where? When was it outlawed and where? What rise in rape and other sex crimes? How can you make that assertion when there is zero data to support it?

Are you just making stuff up to support you conclusion?

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Is this a serious question?

For someone who has read a LOT of history, it should be a given that prostitution was widespread and either legal or tolerated up through the early 20th century. Every city in Texas had a red light district before the War Department demanded they be shut down. The growth of the female vote also fueled vice crackdowns.

And it remains legal in some places today, both in Nevada and other parts of the world.

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So you think that Rape was widespread in America in places that did not allow legalized prostitution? I am not challenging thatprostitution has been legalized at different times and places. Rather, I was challenging the claimed correlation between the lack of legalized prostitution and widespread rape.

And InfectionAg was not talking about the wild West in the United States. He was talking about ancient and medieval history, which was clear from the context of his point.

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One, there substantive data to show your rejection in this instance is just factually incorrect.

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"Substantive data?"

Show me the study you are referring to that boosters this claim.

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Evidence on whether access to pornography reduces rape is contradictory, with studies showing both potential decreases in sexual violence and, conversely, links to increased aggression. Research indicates increased, easy access to pornography correlates with lower reported rape rates in some areas, yet other studies link high consumption, particularly of violent content, to higher sexual aggression.
Key findings from research include:
Safety Valve Theory: Some studies argue that increased access to pornography acts as a "safety valve," reducing sexual violence by providing an outlet for sexual urges, with data showing a 27% drop in rape rates in areas with higher, easier access to internet porn.
Violent Content Link: Studies have shown that consumption of violent, degrading, or dehumanizing pornography is associated with higher rates of sexual aggression and a greater acceptance of rape myths.
Behavioral Impact: Exposure to pornography, especially early in life, is associated with a greater likelihood of engaging in, or being a victim of, sexual assault.
Confounding Factors: Research on the topic is complicated by factors like age, personal history, and the type of content consumed, making a direct causal link difficult to establish.
Overall, the relationship is complex, with evidence suggesting that while general, easy access to pornography does not necessarily cause an increase in rape, specific types of violent content can correlate with, or reinforce, behaviors leading to sexual aggression.

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"Substantive data"