Hope they prosecute the lib idiots who invaded the church

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In reply to bobbranco • 7:47a, 1/19/26
bobbranco said:
Captain Pablo said:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/don-lemon-minneapolis-anti-ice-protestors-storm-cities-church-st-paul-mid-service-over-david-easterwood-claims-101768769787420-amp.html

Apparently Don Lemon was all up in it

Don fingers everything.


He is gay and doesn't like anyone who says he is a sinner. He wants to change Christian's view to his, and if you cross him, you are bigot etc. And if you don't come around to his way of thinking, he promotes violence. He is too stupid to realize his communist allies will ditch him.
Why can't guys like him just go be gay and not bother others?
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 7:54a, 1/19/26
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7:55a, 1/19/26
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Republicans love this. Gets some good NEW stuff in their spam mailers and texts. "Democrats are now INVADING CHURCHES . Fight with me and donate to my campaign. I will STOP DEMOCRATS IN THEIR TRACKS!"


Yeah, no thanks, snake oil salesmen.

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In reply to Jaydoug • 8:02a, 1/19/26
I don't think republicans love this. This is an escalation of the war on America. This is not expressing first amendment views. This is bullying. This is using fear tactics.
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8:50a, 1/19/26
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Jail for criminals; prayer for criminals. These concepts are consistent.
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In reply to Jaydoug • 8:54a, 1/19/26
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Jaydoug said:
Republicans love this. Gets some good NEW stuff in their spam mailers and texts. "Democrats are now INVADING CHURCHES . Fight with me and donate to my campaign. I will STOP DEMOCRATS IN THEIR TRACKS!"


Yeah, no thanks, snake oil salesmen.


Love this? No... you are thinking like a democrat. But yes democrats are now invading churches and you should be alarmed at the depths to which your party has sunk.


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9:05a, 1/19/26
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DOJ has to go all in on this

Jail

It's going to keep getting worse and the question is how far will these cretins be allowed to go
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Ellis Wyatt
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9:19a, 1/19/26
What a complete ****bag Don Lemon is.
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In reply to Owlagdad • 9:25a, 1/19/26
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Owlagdad said:
First thing. This was not a protest. But a disruption of a way of life. They know what they are doing and will have victory, especially if church attendance goes down.
Notice these guys never pick on or pick situations where they will get pushback.

yep, they never go after professional sporting events
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In reply to Owlagdad • 9:30a, 1/19/26
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Owlagdad said:
First thing. This was not a protest. But a disruption of a way of life. They know what they are doing and will have victory, especially if church attendance goes down.
Notice these guys never pick on or pick situations where they will get pushback.


I'm sure there is someone somewhere who will claim interrupting the church service was protected speech.
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In reply to Logos Stick • 9:34a, 1/19/26
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FACE Act violations for them all

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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 9:35a, 1/19/26
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As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 9:35a, 1/19/26
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Urban Ag said:
This is beyond ridiculous at this point and frankly getting concerning.

We have a cop at our church every Sunday morning because our church finally made the decision to do so last summer after all the attacks. These are local/county PD/sheriff. If a mob of degenerates tried to enter our church they would pull firearms.

Same with ours. We have multiple off-duty cops, and an armed security team. Unfortunately we've had wackos enter the church/sanctuary in the past (though nothing really bad has happened).

But disrupting a church service is a really really good way to get yourself shot.

Part of me thinks this is exactly what they want. Between the rioting agitators and events like this, one side appears obviously DESPERATE for their next George Floyd to rally around, and justify chaos.
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In reply to torrid • 9:35a, 1/19/26
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torrid said:
Owlagdad said:
First thing. This was not a protest. But a disruption of a way of life. They know what they are doing and will have victory, especially if church attendance goes down.
Notice these guys never pick on or pick situations where they will get pushback.


I'm sure there is someone somewhere who will claim interrupting the church service was protected speech.


https://nypost.com/2026/01/19/us-news/trumps-doj-puts-don-lemon-on-notice-over-allegations-he-joined-anti-ice-mob-who-stormed-church/

Well yeah. Don Lemon himself
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In reply to El Chupacabra • 9:45a, 1/19/26
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El Chupacabra said:
CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.


So not Christianity. Nothing in the Gospels tells of turning The Jews or Roman's into chalk lines
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 9:49a, 1/19/26
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What Christian value would prosecution go against? Romans 13 would be a good read.

I'm not advocating for 'chalk lines' (unless self defense); but these people should 100% be prosecuted and prevented from doing this again. And there is nothing immoral about that...quite the contrary.
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In reply to Captain Pablo • 9:49a, 1/19/26
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DOJ has to go all in on this

Jail

It's going to keep getting worse and the question is how far will these cretins be allowed to go

A loooongg ways when there is virtually zero accountability or consequences.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 9:52a, 1/19/26
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Urban Ag said:
Well your opinion is why Christ ended up on a cross.

He died for us.

Never saw or read where he intended for us to live on our knees and take it in the ass.

Have a blessed day.


Christ on the cross is a sign of the ultimate victory. If you don't see this then I don't understand what your Christian beliefs or understanding could possibly be.

Most of the early Apostles and thousands of Orthodox Saints are people who chose to die rather than resist with violence or seek legal retribution. To suggest that "taking it" is un-Christian would essentially invalidate the lives of the most revered figures in Church history.

Jesus explicitly instructs, "But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other also" (Matthew 5:39)

My guess is that you do not attend Church, have an extremely poor understanding of the Theology, attend a really whacky Church or your hate or politics override your religious beliefs ( that you seemingly don't understand in the first place).

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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 9:53a, 1/19/26
CrackerJackAg said:
El Chupacabra said:
CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.


So not Christianity. Nothing in the Gospels tells of turning The Jews or Roman's into chalk lines


So per your interpretation, hiring an off duty armed cop to protect the worship service and potentially kill a gunman is not Christianity. We should simply let the gunman come in and kill everyone?!
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10:00a, 1/19/26
I guess it's a good thing that AAG is Jewish. She can take action on behalf of the Christian church and it's ok since she is not a Christian.
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 10:02a, 1/19/26
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AgGrad99 said:
What Christian value would prosecution go against? Romans 13 would be a good read.

I'm not advocating for 'chalk lines' (unless self defense); but these people should 100% be prosecuted and prevented from doing this again. And there is nothing immoral about that...quite the contrary.


So I guess you are saying that while individual Christians should be merciful, the state has a God-given mandate to be just by prosecuting crimes to maintain order and protect the public.

You believe that the secular government of the United States is chosen by God to be Gods Servant?

Did you feel this way when Joe Biden was in Office?

AOC the divinely established Authority of God?

Or is Trump the only one this applies to and God sent him as his Servant to dish out justice.

Yeah, I don't think our government applies….

It does or it doesn't and our politics doesn't decide if it does.

Paul was speaking in regards to kings and emperors chosen by God. Not Crockett and Walz.

The Bible was written for you but not written to you.

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In reply to Logos Stick • 10:08a, 1/19/26
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Logos Stick said:
CrackerJackAg said:
El Chupacabra said:
CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

As a Christian, I'm disappointed the church isn't a crime scene with lots of chalk.

I believe that terrorists should suffer swift, aggressive consequences that ends their ability to terrorize ever again.

Christians, the right, conservatives have turned the other cheek for too long, and now it is out of control. These terrorists aren't far from chaining doors shut and lighting buildings on fire.


So not Christianity. Nothing in the Gospels tells of turning The Jews or Roman's into chalk lines


So per your interpretation, hiring an off duty armed cop to protect the worship service and potentially kill a gunman is not Christianity. We should simply let the gunman come in and kill everyone?!


That would be an extreme understanding today.

However, not out of line of early Christian followers during the pre-Nicene. It would have been the prevailing ideal at the time.

I don't believe this is the case for me. I think there is an obvious case for defending the lives of your family and friends.

IN THIS CASE NO WAS ONE PHYSICALLY HARMED.

You are creating false scenarios to justify the ends you desire.


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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:16a, 1/19/26
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Where is your church so I can show up cause a fuss and see if you feel differently….
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:17a, 1/19/26
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I don't care to go down a discussion that opens all those theological cans of worms...suffice it to say, I wholeheartedly disagree.

If you think Christians have a Biblical mandate to sit back and allow people to act with utter impunity, without consequences, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Good luck with that.
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In reply to BCOBQ98 • 10:18a, 1/19/26
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BCOBQ98 said:
Where is your church so I can show up cause a fuss and see if you feel differently….


That would be your decision. I would invite you anyway and hope you find Christ and peace.

Shoot me a private message and I'll meet you there.
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:20a, 1/19/26
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CrackerJackAg said:
DannyDuberstein said:
CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


Being Christian doesn't mean you have to be a limp-wristed victim. This was threatening behavior that interfered with people's inalienable rights. It should be prosecuted.


That's your opinion. Not prosecuting doesn't makes you a limp wasted victim. Christ could have overcome his persecutors. He chose not to.

If you think they should prosecute or call in the military that is your opinion and I'm sure you have your justification. (Not assigning that to you but just echoing similar sentiments in this thread)

I don't think Christ taught us to seek justice. That's my opinion.

Perfectly fine to be incorrect
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In reply to AgGrad99 • 10:20a, 1/19/26
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AgGrad99 said:
I don't care to go down a discussion that opens all those theological cans of worms...suffice it to say, I wholeheartedly disagree.

If you think Christians have a Biblical mandate to sit back and allow people to act with utter impunity, without consequences, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Good luck with that.


No point in arguing. I said from the get go that others have their opinion. I just offered mine and why I feel the way I do.

Have a great day. Pray for your enemies and hope none of these measures are necessary.
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In reply to astros4545 • 10:21a, 1/19/26
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astros4545 said:
CrackerJackAg said:
DannyDuberstein said:
CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.


Being Christian doesn't mean you have to be a limp-wristed victim. This was threatening behavior that interfered with people's inalienable rights. It should be prosecuted.


That's your opinion. Not prosecuting doesn't makes you a limp wasted victim. Christ could have overcome his persecutors. He chose not to.

If you think they should prosecute or call in the military that is your opinion and I'm sure you have your justification. (Not assigning that to you but just echoing similar sentiments in this thread)

I don't think Christ taught us to seek justice. That's my opinion.

Perfectly fine to be incorrect


I'm open to correction. How so?
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In reply to Bob Lee • 10:22a, 1/19/26
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Hopefully this is dealt with harshly. Too many people don't understand what it means to have the right to protest. I would be all in favor of deploying Marines to Minnesota, and giving them police power if that's what it takes. That they will resort to this kind of tactic just tells me there's nothing too outrageous. They're going to keep provoking people until they get a reaction. Send them all to gitmo, including Don Lemon. Especially Don Lemon.

Nailed it!

The protestors are doing everything they can to get a reaction, probably because it's now a "thing" to get assaulted, beaten up, attacked, whatever by someone (LEO or regular people) and use it to get Go Fund Me money.

The military needs to be sent to Minneapolis to quiet things down so ICE can do their effing jobs and move on to the next city.

The more time ICE wastes in Minneapolis because of the protestors the longer it'll take them to go other places and do their job.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:26a, 1/19/26
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CrackerJackAg said:
AgGrad99 said:
I don't care to go down a discussion that opens all those theological cans of worms...suffice it to say, I wholeheartedly disagree.

If you think Christians have a Biblical mandate to sit back and allow people to act with utter impunity, without consequences, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Good luck with that.


No point in arguing. I said from the get go that others have their opinion. I just offered mine and why I feel the way I do.

Have a great day. Pray for your enemies and hope none of these measures are necessary.

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In reply to ts5641 • 10:28a, 1/19/26
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It appears we are entering the violence phase of Civil War.

Nope not yet. We are still in 1859 equivalent. The real violent phase started in 1861 @ Bull Run. But Sumter was the fuse because you had a political entity ordering a violent confrontation with Federal forces.

This will get ugly when a not job or gang banger kills 5 or more in a single event. And the chances of that are high if this stuff doesn't stop. It goes official when a mayor or governor tell people to use force on Federal forces, Example ICE. In that case its no different than Sumter.
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10:32a, 1/19/26
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Society cannot operate under "Turn the other cheek". Grace and forgiveness make for horrible government and a short lived society. Those are concepts that can only be applied to individuals that hopefully live in a society built on justice. Grace can only exist as the exception, or there is no justice.
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:33a, 1/19/26
CrackerJackAg said:
AgGrad99 said:
I don't care to go down a discussion that opens all those theological cans of worms...suffice it to say, I wholeheartedly disagree.

If you think Christians have a Biblical mandate to sit back and allow people to act with utter impunity, without consequences, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise. Good luck with that.


No point in arguing. I said from the get go that others have their opinion. I just offered mine and why I feel the way I do.

Have a great day. Pray for your enemies and hope none of these measures are necessary.

I disagree. That said God Bless you for sticking with what you hold dear. You can pray for your enemies to have a change of heart and yet fight them until they do.
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10:37a, 1/19/26
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So, the FACE act specifically protects places of worship from:

1) people vandalizing the place of worship
2) Interfering with people's 1st amendment rights of religious freedom in a place of worship

The penalty is up to 6 months in jail and fines up to $10,000 for first time offenders.

Let's be very specific. This law was worded to specifically prevent exactly this type of activity. Anyone that broke into a church service mid-service with the intent to disrupt this service is guilty of breaking this law. It is an open and shut case. The only way that any of these defendants could defeat a case against them with this evidence is to have SCOTUS declare the law unconstitutional.

Text from the law, you are guilty if:
"(1) by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person because that person is or has been, or in order to intimidate such person or any other person or any class of persons from, obtaining or providing reproductive health services;

(2) by force or threat of force or by physical obstruction, intentionally injures, intimidates or interferes with or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person lawfully exercising or seeking to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom at a place of religious worship; or

(3) intentionally damages or destroys the property of a facility, or attempts to do so, because such facility provides reproductive health services, or intentionally damages or destroys the property of a place of religious worship,"

Every one of those protestors is guilty of breaking this law, including Lemon. It is impossible to argue otherwise.

I would love to see Don Lemon do 6 months in jail. But, it might be even better if you got Lemon to plea down to no jail time if he goes on the air, apologizes, explains the law, and tells all of the protestors to go home.

I am sure that this law was origionally intended to protect abortion clinics, Masques and Jewish Temples, but Christian Churches get the same protection as a Masque.

EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE NEED JAIL TIME!!!

If you stepped foot in that church, you need to go to jail.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/senate-bill/636/text
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In reply to CrackerJackAg • 10:39a, 1/19/26
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CrackerJackAg said:
As a Christian I am not sure I agree with prosecution. No one was harmed.

I would pray, for an obvious miracle, that these people find God.

Absolutely awful and dangerous take.

Everyone has the right to protest. NO ONE has the right to violate others' civil rights in order to do so. Just as NO ONE has the right to interfere with lawful actions of law enforcement officials.

This MUST be addressed, or it becomes the new normal.
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