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You still have not adequately explained where your left pinky toe was on that day. Any good detective would be asking about it

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Why do you have to invent hypotheticals when I pointed out a real example?

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Who made the supposed statements you're referring to?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

You are admitting you took the supposed statements of various people as reported by various internet sources then presented it as one dialogue?

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You still have not adequately explained where your left pinky toe was on that day. Any good detective would be asking about it

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You really think you're making a good point with this pinky toe thing don't you?

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Actually, he is...

But, if you don't understand why, then we know why you believe this conspiracy theory stuff...

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You know how intellectual lazy it is to call someone a conspiracy theorist?

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Do you know how intellectually lazy it is to actually support most things that get you called a conspiracy theorist?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

Do you have anything specific to say or are you just going to rant?

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Do you have anything specific to say or are you just going to rant?

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Now I'm quite sure you're just a bot...

Oh man good one. Now move along.

If you happen to think of an argument or want to discuss a spacific topic, you're welcome back anytime.

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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Oh man good one. Now move along.

If you happen to think of an argument or want to discuss a spacific topic, you're welcome back anytime.

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Well, you've claimed a number of posters on here are bots.

So, why shouldn't I think YOU are a bot?

Your posts are not much different than a low level AI bot from the 60s...you're essentially ELIZA...

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I can come up with some wild **** about your left pinky toe being involved, in which your surprise in such an insane and stupid theory being taken seriously may contribute to some inconsistencies in your story about said pink toe, but that still doesn't mean your pinky toe had anything to do with it, even if I have come to the conclusion that your "answers" about your left pinky toe are not sufficient to answer my "legitimate" questions.

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Which ones aren't plausible? i just went through one example of a 'crazy conspiracy theory' that was proved true.

Next, let's take that the FBI said he was shot with a 30.06. I've shot a lot of animals with 30 caliber rifles over my life. There is no way in my experience he was shot in the neck with a 30.06. You have to do some crazy mental gymnastics to create the magic bullet scenario.

As a bonus, Andrew Klovet immediately posted that he talked to the surgeon and the surgeon told him charlie kirk's neck bones were so healthy and strong they stopped the bullet. First of all, it's a very odd thing to release immediately. It feels like he's trying to compensate for something. Secondly, there's no proof the surgeon told him anything.

For all the npcs, these questions don't "prove" anything - but they're reasonable questions. Any good detective would be questioning this.

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Guys - Farmer J from texags dot com has shot guns a few times and he's sure a 30.06 couldn't do that. That obviously means Trump, Kash, dozens of fbi agents, the doctors, medical examiners, hundreds of witnesses, probably Erika herself, are all in on "what really happened." Oh and the guy they arrested, he's just going along with it too.

Second, that wouldn't be an odd thing to release immediately if people were wondering why no bullet was found at the scene.

What's next?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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OMG! The texts were real!?!? Do you know what that means???


Nothing. It has absolutely no relevancy to anything.

Yawn.

You're boring.

I'd say this was into flat Earth territory, but at least being a flat Earther doesn't lead to being a prized a-hole about a greaving widow. This whole thing has reached problematic levels.

lol. I've done more than shoot a few guns.

Not sure where you're coming up with 'finding a bullet at the scene'. It has to do with i've seen what a 30.06 bullet looks like when it hits a deer's neck. It doesn't look like what happened to charlie. Like I said, that's just my opinion. You're welcome to yours. I haven't talked to anyone who actually hunts that believes it's a 3006 either. So I would say it's pretty reasonable to doubt.

If it wasn't reasonable, Klovit wouldn't have felt the need to tell us the story about charlie's superhuman neck bones.

Who made the statements you posted?

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I can come up with some wild **** about your left pinky toe being involved, in which your surprise in such an insane and stupid theory being taken seriously may contribute to some inconsistencies in your story about said pink toe, but that still doesn't mean your pinky toe had anything to do with it, even if I have come to the conclusion that your "answers" about your left pinky toe are not sufficient to answer my "legitimate" questions.

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Which ones aren't plausible? i just went through one example of a 'crazy conspiracy theory' that was proved true.

Next, let's take that the FBI said he was shot with a 30.06. I've shot a lot of animals with 30 caliber rifles over my life. There is no way in my experience he was shot in the neck with a 30.06. You have to do some crazy mental gymnastics to create the magic bullet scenario.

As a bonus, Andrew Klovet immediately posted that he talked to the surgeon and the surgeon told him charlie kirk's neck bones were so healthy and strong they stopped the bullet. First of all, it's a very odd thing to release immediately. It feels like he's trying to compensate for something. Secondly, there's no proof the surgeon told him anything.

For all the npcs, these questions don't "prove" anything - but they're reasonable questions. Any good detective would be questioning this.

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Guys - Farmer J from texags dot com has shot guns a few times and he's sure a 30.06 couldn't do that. That obviously means Trump, Kash, dozens of fbi agents, the doctors, medical examiners, hundreds of witnesses, probably Erika herself, are all in on "what really happened." Oh and the guy they arrested, he's just going along with it too.

Second, that wouldn't be an odd thing to release immediately if people were wondering why no bullet was found at the scene.

What's next?

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Wait, you really believe a .30-06 was used? How is it even plausible that a .30-06 didn't shatter his spinal cord, but instead deflected downward without even chipping a bone and was completely intact without deformation? That's simply beyond belief.

Whoa have you been hunting?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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If you don't know who that is, you should probably sit out this discussion.

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lol. I've done more than shoot a few guns.

Not sure where you're coming up with 'finding a bullet at the scene'. It has to do with i've seen what a 30.06 bullet looks like when it hits a deer's neck. It doesn't look like what happened to charlie. Like I said, that's just my opinion. You're welcome to yours. I haven't talked to anyone who actually hunts that believes it's a 3006 either. So I would say it's pretty reasonable to doubt.

If it wasn't reasonable, Klovit wouldn't have felt the need to tell us the story about charlie's superhuman neck bones.

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Wait, we are still doing this???

Here is a deer hit in the white of his neck from about 40-50 yards. Notice the head clearly attached to the body and no blood on the ground. The blood amounted to a few drops at the entry wound and no exit. Rifle was a .308. Bullets do funny things.

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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If you don't know who that is, you should probably sit out this discussion.

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So you won't back up your claims, after numerous opportunities. Clown.

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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If you don't know who that is, you should probably sit out this discussion.

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The fact that you don't know his name is Kolvet means maybe YOU should sit out the discussion.

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lol. I've done more than shoot a few guns.

Not sure where you're coming up with 'finding a bullet at the scene'. It has to do with i've seen what a 30.06 bullet looks like when it hits a deer's neck. It doesn't look like what happened to charlie. Like I said, that's just my opinion. You're welcome to yours. I haven't talked to anyone who actually hunts that believes it's a 3006 either. So I would say it's pretty reasonable to doubt.

If it wasn't reasonable, Klovit wouldn't have felt the need to tell us the story about charlie's superhuman neck bones.

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Welp that settles it. Farmer J and his buddies, who were hundreds of miles away, think it couldn't have happened that way so clearly that outweighs hundreds of eye witnesses, Trump, Kash, Erika, dozens of FBI investigators, doctors, the person they arrested for it, etc. Also, everyone who cared about Charlie is also apparently fine with the real killers going free.

And yea, Kolvet (his actual name) felt the need to rub in their super secret plot by telling a story afterwards of what was relayed to him by the doctor around why the bullet didn't go straight through and hurt others behind him. Clearly you flew to Utah, talked to the doctor and he said he didn't tell Kolvet that, so that settles it.

Please enlighten us - what exactly do you think happened if "they" are lying to us?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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If you don't know who that is, you should probably sit out this discussion.

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So you won't back up your claims, after numerous opportunities. Clown.

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I just gave you the names and all the details. Good grief. Do you actually have an argument to make or are you going to play this stupid game?

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They're not "supposed", it's how the whole ordeal went down. Bill ackman was one of the donors. Just like I stated, it was at first denied there was even a meeting and candace was of course called crazy. There was denials from the donors, and from tpusa employees. Candace posted the text messages from Charlie, and within a day or 2 everyone acknowledged that they were real.

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Who made the statements?

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I just told you. Klovet came out and finally acknowledged the texts were real.

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Klovet? Am I supposed to know who that is? Who made the statements you posted? Who made the statements you posted?

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If you don't know who that is, you should probably sit out this discussion.

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The fact that you don't know his name is Kolvet means maybe YOU should sit out the discussion.

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OMG A TYPO!!!

Your Dimaggio like streak of saying nothing of importance remains unbroken. Seriously, unless you have something to say or want to make a logical argument move along.

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lol. I've done more than shoot a few guns.

Not sure where you're coming up with 'finding a bullet at the scene'. It has to do with i've seen what a 30.06 bullet looks like when it hits a deer's neck. It doesn't look like what happened to charlie. Like I said, that's just my opinion. You're welcome to yours. I haven't talked to anyone who actually hunts that believes it's a 3006 either. So I would say it's pretty reasonable to doubt.

If it wasn't reasonable, Klovit wouldn't have felt the need to tell us the story about charlie's superhuman neck bones.

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Wait, we are still doing this???

Here is a deer hit in the white of his neck from about 40-50 yards. Notice the head clearly attached to the body and no blood on the ground. The blood amounted to a few drops at the entry wound and no exit. Rifle was a .308. Bullets do funny things.

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And i've shot deer I could stick my arm through their neck as well. And you do realize a mature buck's neck is probably 3X's the size of a human's right?

There's also what the shock looks like as well at the moment of impact. I've seen the video and it didn't look like to me that was a large caliber bullet.

Now, for those bad at logical reasoning, i'm not saying it wasn't a 30-06, i'm saying that it's reasonable to question if you have experience seeing firsthand what a 30-06 impact looks like.

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Whoa have you been hunting?

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Honestly, the story they're telling us about the .30-06 being used, not roping off the crime scene and immediately tearing down the tent and placing paver stones over the ground the next day, and the novel he wrote to his boyfriend via text are just too much to believe. The official story is a complete fabrication.

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Whoa have you been hunting?

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Honestly, the story they're telling us about the .30-06 being used, not roping off the crime scene and immediately tearing down the tent and placing paver stones over the ground the next day, and the novel he wrote to his boyfriend via text are just too much to believe. The official story is a complete fabrication.

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Welp that settles it. A few internet experts who have never stepped foot in Utah don't "feel" like it could have happened that way so obviously the story is fake. What do you think happened then? Do you want to send Trump and Kash an email letting them know they have the wrong guy?

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Whoa have you been hunting?

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Honestly, the story they're telling us about the .30-06 being used, not roping off the crime scene and immediately tearing down the tent and placing paver stones over the ground the next day, and the novel he wrote to his boyfriend via text are just too much to believe. The official story is a complete fabrication.

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Welp that settles it. A few internet experts who have never stepped foot in Utah don't "feel" like it could have happened that way so obviously the story is fake. What do you think happened then? Do you want to send Trump and Kash an email letting them know they have the wrong guy?

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Well that settles it, ballistics and human nature are different in Utah than other places!

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Whoa have you been hunting?

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Honestly, the story they're telling us about the .30-06 being used, not roping off the crime scene and immediately tearing down the tent and placing paver stones over the ground the next day, and the novel he wrote to his boyfriend via text are just too much to believe. The official story is a complete fabrication.

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Welp that settles it. A few internet experts who have never stepped foot in Utah don't "feel" like it could have happened that way so obviously the story is fake. What do you think happened then? Do you want to send Trump and Kash an email letting them know they have the wrong guy?

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Well that settles it, ballistics and human nature are different in Utah than other places!

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Guys, someone let the FBI know. Noted internet ballistics expert SociallyConditionedAg has breaking information on Charlie's murder. Clearly the dozens of investigators who actually worked on the case are wrong and they have the wrong guy going on trial. Or "they" are all in on it too, in which case we have an even bigger problem.

Will ask again since none of the conspiracy nuts seem to want to answer - what do you think happened?

Need to let Robinson lawyer know also!

Or is he in on the coverup?

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Now, for those bad at logical reasoning, i'm not saying it wasn't a 30-06, i'm saying that it's reasonable to question if you have experience seeing firsthand what a 30-06 impact looks like.

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We have hundreds of eye witnesses and video footage that proves Kirk was shot in neck from a frontal roof top shooter.

So again, be specific with the caliber speculation. Was it that Robinson used a different firearm? Or was it another roof top shooter with a different firearm?

Raising specific questions that can be fleshed out is fine. This wound nonsense is just like when 9/11 truthers claimed a plane fire would not collapse a sky scraper.

Bullets and human flesh coming together is a mystery. Ive seen guys with bullet wounds that look nothing more than a mosquito bite and the dude died at the scene.

Ive seen, where someone was shot in the face with buck shot from a 12 gauge and the dude lived. Face was all f***ed to hell and a dozen surgeries later face was still f***ed.

Non of us were there, we can only account for what is being shown us on social media. Im sure between local law enforcement, FBI, medical examiner, on the ground eye witness accounts and the gunman himself, saw what really happened and the impact the bullet made.

Some of y'all have seen to many movies and tv shows and think bullets fired from a gun shoot in perfect straight line.

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Now, for those bad at logical reasoning, i'm not saying it wasn't a 30-06, i'm saying that it's reasonable to question if you have experience seeing firsthand what a 30-06 impact looks like.

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We have hundreds of eye witnesses and video footage that proves Kirk was shot in neck from a frontal roof top shooter.

So again, be specific with the caliber speculation. Was it that Robinson used a different firearm? Or was it another roof top shooter with a different firearm?

Raising specific questions that can be fleshed out is fine. This wound nonsense is just like when 9/11 truthers claimed a plane fire would not collapse a sky scraper.

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I doubt Tyler fired a gun that day. If he did, why lie about the caliber? Maybe it was a pistol or his lapel mike, but a .30-06 would have inflicted much more damage if it hit spine. Rob O'Neil said it looks like an exit wound, so was it from behind?

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Is that supposed to be an insult?

I could care less about candice, or trying to defend her.What I find puzzling is the people who criticize her never actually mention details. They just name call.

I took charlie kirk's murder personally. I call b******* on so many details of the official story. And so should any one who followed charlie.

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I laid out her accusations, her lack of receipts.

The only receipts she has are concerns from Charlie about being pressured in a way that he is uncomfortable with.

That is a far far cry from those same donors wanting to kill him. He didnt even hint at that.

And that is my point… she casts aspersions with no receipts. And the receipts she has dont say what she says they say.

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Maybe it was a pistol or his lapel mike, but a .30-06 would have inflicted much more damage if it hit spine. Rob O'Neil said it looks like an exit wound, so was it from behind?

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A secret pistol from where? The lapel mic bomb has been throughly debunked.

Rob O'Neil's opinion isnt any more valid than any other random on internet. He had no special info or footage, and since that clip, medical reports have been released. Doctors have examined way more gunshot wounds than him, regardless of how hard he touts his combat record.

The strongest plausible arguement against lone wolf is some MKUltra type gov grooming. There are pretty powerful substances and sophisticated tactics that exist today. But so far, that seems more plausible for Thomas Crooks who we still know nothing about.