The Attorney Andrew Branca Show

He shows us with data how H1Bs are screwing all of us, making us compete for jobs in our own country, increasing prices of food and housing. On top of this, H1Bs send a billions of dollars back to their home countries which will never circulate in the US economy.

He is right. Trump needs to stop being a slave to rich corps and do something else were are done as a nation.
My son and millions of sons and daughters of America are struggling because of this rampant fraud and cheating encouraged by the Terrible Trifecta of Evil.

Winners: US CEOs, and politicians, H1Bs
Losers: Average US citizens

This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

**** India

Maroon Dawn said:

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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It's called capitalism. Maximize profit minimize cost. Along with the freedom to run your business anyway you damn well please.

The onl to way to really take advantage is to buy shares of the businesses doing this if it is benefiting their stock prices of profitability.

It doesn't bother me too much on one level as someone that leans very much towards free market capitalism with less regulation BUT I don't like how there is a lot of near fraudulent behavior organized around it. The hiring businesses aren't open and honest about it, they very carefully exploit loopholes of bend the rules to the breaking point and all but collude with foreign agents to ensure the job requirements are narrow and precisely match only the candidates from certain overseas agents.

And it isn't free matket labor when the imported laborers can only work for the business they brings them in, and become sll but underpaid indentured servants that other businesses can't poach away for more money, which would make their wages more subject to market forces. What you have right now is exploitation of the law to suppress wages for that matket segment and this causes wage suppression for Americsn labor in competition with those jobs. There is also a considerable amount of fraud regarding legitimate credentials and experience for overseas workers.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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It's called capitalism. Maximize profit minimize cost. Along with the freedom to run your business anyway you damn well please.

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This is not capitalism. You have been well and clearly fooled. It is called finding a loophole in an imperfect system to be a parasite to the host and eventually kill it. That is where we are headed to while Boomers count their 401k dollars not bothered about national debt or future generations.

Maroon Dawn said:

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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They don't want to move there.

Insinuating boomers only count their 401s and dont care about others may be as ignorant and as stupid a reply as I have read on TA. I am a boomer and dont qualify for either of your accusations.

infinity ag said:

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The Attorney Andrew Branca Show

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Who is this and why should I care what he has to say?

It's one of a eleventy-billion shows.

90% of this program should be scrapped

And remittances should be taxed as capital gains

just like all illegals must go, all H1Bs should go

and then reapply for their previous positions.

So do you have the same vitriol over the estimated 5-9mm Americans living overseas with 2-3mm working in those other countries and according to your way of thinking, taking their jobs? What happens if countries respond in kind and force them back to the US?

If the US were to do as you seem to think is the ideal scenario, expect foreign direct investment in the US to rapidly decline. These companies will want/need to have some of their employees in the US to train and oversee running their operations. Those investments create a large number of high paying US jobs.

I'm not saying we need to have an open border again but to think we should totally close it to legal immigrants would be a similarly bad idea especially in a country with a low unemployment rate and declining birth rates.

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Geminiv said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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It's called capitalism. Maximize profit minimize cost. Along with the freedom to run your business anyway you damn well please.

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This is not capitalism. You have been well and clearly fooled. It is called finding a loophole in an imperfect system to be a parasite to the host and eventually kill it. That is where we are headed to while Boomers count their 401k dollars not bothered about national debt or future generations.

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Boomer here. Counting my 401k while watching youngsters get all bitter and angry about it is one of my life's great pleasures. Glad to see the plan is coming to fruition.

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infinity ag said:

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Geminiv said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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It's called capitalism. Maximize profit minimize cost. Along with the freedom to run your business anyway you damn well please.

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This is not capitalism. You have been well and clearly fooled. It is called finding a loophole in an imperfect system to be a parasite to the host and eventually kill it. That is where we are headed to while Boomers count their 401k dollars not bothered about national debt or future generations.

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Boomer here. Counting my 401k while watching youngsters get act bitter and angry about it is one of my life's great pleasures. Glad to see the plan is coming to fruition.

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I use to try to argue that I wasn't like that, but the bitterness and whiny diatribes have me calling up my investment accounts and counting the days until I start bleeding their SS dry.

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So do you have the same vitriol over the estimated 5-9mm Americans living overseas with 2-3mm working in those other countries and according to your way of thinking, taking their jobs? What happens if countries respond in kind and force them back to the US?

If the US were to do as you seem to think is the ideal scenario, expect foreign direct investment in the US to rapidly decline. These companies will want/need to have some of their employees in the US to train and oversee running their operations. Those investments create a large number of high paying US jobs.

I'm not saying we need to have an open border again but to think we should totally close it to legal immigrants would be a similarly bad idea especially in a country with a low unemployment rate and declining birth rates.

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99% of the h1b program is bait and switch. What happens between other countries and our willing citizens is not my concern. I expect more out of our government than to enable immoral companies to abuse a broken system at the expense of our current and future job market. If this was all done transparently, the voting public would reject it by and large.

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This needs to end. If you want to hire Indians then pack up your company and move to India. This practice of mass importing them here and paying a fraction of what you'd pay an American thus denying them a job while increasing the costs of everything else is unconscionable

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It's called capitalism. Maximize profit minimize cost. Along with the freedom to run your business anyway you damn well please.

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This is not capitalism. You have been well and clearly fooled. It is called finding a loophole in an imperfect system to be a parasite to the host and eventually kill it. That is where we are headed to while Boomers count their 401k dollars not bothered about national debt or future generations.

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Exactly - what in your opinion is attributed to "Boomers"?

You repeatedly flail out with Boomer hate. Again Boomers have never been a majority of voters (max was about 35% for a period of a few years). So can you show on the doll what exact evil the boomers did to you?

Is it Boomer politicians that have you in a wad? That to me seems a lack of other generations providing viable candidates. JFK did it, where are your guys/gals?

Is it the mounting number of freeloaders on Medicare, SNAP, etc. ? You'll find the average boomers use these programs a lot less (age adjusted) than later generations?

Oops, I know evil CEOs? Cook is practically the last one left and he is on the way out. So all the corporate stuff going on now, don't blame the boomers.

The only thing I cans see left is Social Security, something in place well before boomers came and which they were forced to contribute. If you have more problems you should probably refer to politicians, above.

Your perpetual refusal to take responsibility is truly awe inspiring, but you really need to get fresh talking points.

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So do you have the same vitriol over the estimated 5-9mm Americans living overseas with 2-3mm working in those other countries and according to your way of thinking, taking their jobs? What happens if countries respond in kind and force them back to the US?

If the US were to do as you seem to think is the ideal scenario, expect foreign direct investment in the US to rapidly decline. These companies will want/need to have some of their employees in the US to train and oversee running their operations. Those investments create a large number of high paying US jobs.

I'm not saying we need to have an open border again but to think we should totally close it to legal immigrants would be a similarly bad idea especially in a country with a low unemployment rate and declining birth rates.

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Are you telling me we have 5-9M Americans living and working in India and China?

A new F16 milestone…….. H1B and Boomer hate in one thread.

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A new F16 milestone…….. H1B and Boomer hate in one thread.

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Nope, the OP has made this a well-trodden path, I am pretty sure. But too lazy to check.

This H1B issue is turning into one of the biggest pressing things for Trump to fix. Honestly I'd hardly heard much of it until this current Trump term. He needs to fix this *****

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The Attorney Andrew Branca Show

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Who is this and why should I care what he has to say?

It's one of a eleventy-billion shows.

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You don't have to care about him. I didn't know about him until a few days ago.

However you better care about his message. He is one of the few Americans who has a channel where he openly discusses the issue and does not dance around it trying to not sound racist. This is not a racism issue at all. This is a survival issue for us Americans.

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This H1B issue is turning into one of the biggest pressing things for Trump to fix. Honestly I'd hardly heard much of it until this current Trump term. He needs to fix this *****

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It is. This was one of my top issues in 2016 and even more so in 2024. But Trump is saying all the wrong things after saying the right things earlier.

Did someone high up in tech give him a call?

It is really a bad situation out there on both counts - they will soon come after HVAC and plumber jobs that many here are in love with. What stops them from importing 1000000 people from Africa? They may not be good but they can be cheap. Law? Sure, we can get them from India also. So the free market monkeys need to rethink their positions. One can replace any job with a cheaper foreigner, so please don't be smug about it. This is not free markets. This is a situation where we are trying to fill a pot of water with a hole at the bottom. The hole is a large one now.

Trump did well but he might be backtracking. If he does nothing by next year, I hope he loses the midterms.

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India isn't making Americans hire their citizens.

Americans are intentionally hiring anyone that's not an American (Indians, Filipinos, Nigerians, etc.) instead of their fellow Americans to increase their profits.

It's easy to blame foreigners, but they're in another country being sought after and hired by Americans.

Let's focus on the problem (Americans hiring them) and once that's taken care of there'll be no one else to worry about because the actual problem will be fixed.

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Kansas Kid said:

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So do you have the same vitriol over the estimated 5-9mm Americans living overseas with 2-3mm working in those other countries and according to your way of thinking, taking their jobs? What happens if countries respond in kind and force them back to the US?

If the US were to do as you seem to think is the ideal scenario, expect foreign direct investment in the US to rapidly decline. These companies will want/need to have some of their employees in the US to train and oversee running their operations. Those investments create a large number of high paying US jobs.

I'm not saying we need to have an open border again but to think we should totally close it to legal immigrants would be a similarly bad idea especially in a country with a low unemployment rate and declining birth rates.

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Are you telling me we have 5-9M Americans living and working in India and China?

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Not trying to defend the poster because I think his 5-9M number is probably exaggerated but he did say that it was only 2-3M working overseas. And that's certainly not India and China.

As far as working, this is not an apples to apples comparison at all because there isn't mass recruitment of Americans by any country for the purpose of undercutting the local prevailing wage / working conditions.

When you hire an American, that is a premium priced employee with a large benefit package.

While Indians are hired en masse to work in IT body shops (not automotive body shops) for a lower than average wage, the only time Americans are recruited to work overseas is for some highly specialized skill set that can't be found or developed in country - and those hirings are one or two people at a time.

Example, when I was in Sydney, we'd see a few Aggies come over every year. They were usually in some random job for some company that needed somebody like them in Australia. It was never, hey, this company just decided to hire 20 Americans.

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**** India

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India isn't making Americans hire their citizens.

Americans are intentionally hiring anyone that's not an American (Indians, Filipinos, Nigerians, etc.) instead of their fellow Americans to increase their profits.

It's easy to blame foreigners, but they're in another country being sought after and hired by Americans.

Let's focus on the problem (Americans hiring them) and once that's taken care of there'll be no one else to worry about because the actual problem will be fixed.

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Absolutely right!

A lot of racists are blaming Indians and other foreigners. They are not at fault here though it is easy to blame them.

Fault is with our corps and our pols. Two crooked groups of people who are looting us at the expense of everyday Americans. They do it by calling it free markets because that fools a lot of Americans.

We are hiring them. At the expense of our own kids, as you point out.

Why is it so hard for some to understand? Trump needs to stop H1B, OPT and other work visas and problem solved.

The fault is all OURS.

Trump revoking some H1Bs quietly...

H-1B, H-4 visas prudentially revoked in US amid interview delays in India
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/h1b-h4-v-isa-holders-receive-prudential-revocations-mails-social-media-vetting-expands-us-state-department-techies-2835016-2025-12-14

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Amid the mass rescheduling of H-1B visa interviews in India, many US-based temporary work visa holders have reportedly received emails informing them that their visas have been "prudentially revoked". An immigration expert says many previously cleared issues are being re-reviewed.

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Big tech wants H1Bs. If you don't like them, you should try giving Trump more money than big tech does.

There is a massive shift underway against H-1s, especially for new college grads. Trump has gotten a lot of big tech on board with this through a carrot and stick approach. If a company is more than 15 percent H1 they are really in the crosshairs.

It's going to take a while for many to see the impacts but be assured they are happening. I have been amazed at the shift in attitude inside big tech but it's very quiet to the outside. They have consequences for being openly hostile to H1s as well so they are still sponsoring but it will be drastically reduced and focused on more senior level people with harder to find skillsets.

I say this as someone in the industry. I am far more optimistic for citizens going into Tech over the next few years. You are going to see some offshoring as well but a lot of those jobs don't offshore well.

Lot of puzzle pieces moving right now.

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Big tech wants H1Bs. If you don't like them, you should try giving Trump more money than big tech does.

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OK Rajesh.

AggieMD95 said:

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90% of this program should be scrapped

And remittances should be taxed as capital gains

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Remittances should be taxed.

Why should they be taxed at the capital gains rate?

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It is really a bad situation out there on both counts - they will soon come after HVAC and plumber jobs that many here are in love with.

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I think that this is far fetched.

1) People that own plumbing companies are not going to hire Indians.
2) The people that want to immigrate here from India and China have degrees, and don't want to unclog sewer drains.
3) There are no plumbing companies that make enough money that they can buy the influence in DC required to run a successful H1-B program.

Not that I like H1-B. I hate it. But this seems illogical to me.

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There is a massive shift underway against H-1s, especially for new college grads. Trump has gotten a lot of big tech on board with this through a carrot and stick approach. If a company is more than 15 percent H1 they are really in the crosshairs.

It's going to take a while for many to see the impacts but be assured they are happening. I have been amazed at the shift in attitude inside big tech but it's very quiet to the outside. They have consequences for being openly hostile to H1s as well so they are still sponsoring but it will be drastically reduced and focused on more senior level people with harder to find skillsets.

I say this as someone in the industry. I am far more optimistic for citizens going into Tech over the next few years. You are going to see some offshoring as well but a lot of those jobs don't offshore well.

Lot of puzzle pieces moving right now.

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I feel the same as what you say though at times I get impatient as well.

Trump seems to be working behind the scenes. Quietly and cunningly. He is also not making big loud bombastic statements that cause the US leftist press to hyperventilate, he is just changing rules incrementally making things harder and harder like a Boa constrictor squeezing its prey. I read foreign press a lot and they are screaming, but there is nothing in the US press.

As a realist, I know you cannot just cut H1B from tomorrow, our economy will suffer. I hate it but it is the truth. The weaning off must be done gradually.

I hope they investigate these local mom and pop Indian bodyshopping companies that blatantly break the rules.

Please keep us updated with any insider info if you find out.

Today's news. Now they are revoking visas.

H-1B, H-4 visas prudentially revoked in US amid interview delays in India
https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/h1b-h4-v-isa-holders-receive-prudential-revocations-mails-social-media-vetting-expands-us-state-department-techies-2835016-2025-12-14

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AggieMD95 said:

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90% of this program should be scrapped

And remittances should be taxed as capital gains

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Remittances should be taxed.

Why should they be taxed at the capital gains rate?

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100%.

Foreign workers send a LOT of money back home. This money is lose forever and does not circulate in the US economy. Should be taxed big time.

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It is really a bad situation out there on both counts - they will soon come after HVAC and plumber jobs that many here are in love with.

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I think that this is far fetched.

1) People that own plumbing companies are not going to hire Indians.
2) The people that want to immigrate here from India and China have degrees, and don't want to unclog sewer drains.
3) There are no plumbing companies that make enough money that they can buy the influence in DC required to run a successful H1-B program.

Not that I like H1-B. I hate it. But this seems illogical to me.

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Not necessarily. If you go to Canada, you will see foreign people, including Indians working all kinds of jobs, working in factories to being cops to HVAC guys to doing construction. We don't see that in the US because until recently, we picked only the best college educated people to come to the US. Post 2010, we see the quality of people, especially from India has tanked. You see all kinds of uncivilized types (we have those in our country as well) come to the US as H1Bs. Many with fake college degrees.

A logical extension of tech is to expand H1B or some new visa for plumber jobs also. There is no reason why it can't be done if someone wants to. You may find Tech H1Bs start side businesses in HVAC and sponsor HVAC H1Bs. I got my ducts cleaned early this year, it was on recommendation of a friend and was an indian run company.

If someone's life is so miserable in their own countries, they would be okay to clean sewer drains here. Everything is relative.

Not happened yet but it could.