Steven Crowder demolishes Candace Owens over Charlie

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LMCane
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Steven relentlessly mocks the logical and factual mistakes of Owens here.

How did Candace go from the vast conspiracy WITHIN TPUSA to murder their boss/husband-

to now blaming the EGYPTIANS for Charlie's murder? Although have to say I am glad that now it's the Egyptians and not the Jews.

Pretty sure Candace also is claiming that Erika was also in cahoots with the Egyptians.

What idiot takes this charlatan remotely seriously?!?!

LMCane
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How does anyone fall for this insanity?
MAROON
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Candace Owens is insane and a blithering idiot. Why would anyone follow her or put stock in anything she says?
hbtheduce
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Love a good conspiracy theory. Seems like she isn't handling Charlie's death in the most healthy manner.
tk111
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Quite sad about how Candace has gone off the rails. When she first came on the scene in that congress hearing as an intelligent young lady she looked very promising. I dunno if it was the circus at daily wire or what, but something straight up broke her brain.
Claude!
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Tell me more about this bee cult.
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tk111 said:

Quite sad about how Candace has gone off the rails. When she first came on the scene in that congress hearing as an intelligent young lady she looked very promising. I dunno if it was the circus at daily wire or what, but something straight up broke her brain.

Postpartum psychosis
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Didn't she start the whole they took out Charlie so Vance could divorce his wife and marry her for the ultimate American family nonsense?
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Gaeilge said:

Didn't she start the whole they took out Charlie so Vance could divorce his wife and marry her for the ultimate American family nonsense?

there is more evidence that Candace was in love with Charlie and super jealous that he chose Erika over her than the Bee Cult being involved in his murder

at this point the only real question is how much of this is a grifting act to just make money from the dummies, and how much Candace actually believes her own insanity.
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Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It's easier to construct a conspiracy and then blame it then deal with a more complex and subtle reality which often places blame in chance or misfortune which can't be blamed, or places parts of the blame in many directions, which makes accountability difficult. I think this type of thinking is consuming people who tend towards neurotic.
El Gallo Blanco
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Once you realize that Candace is nothing more than a smooth talking, polished psycho, in desperate need of real mental help, it all makes sense. I find myself geting angry, but really we should pray for her. Husband worth $250MM, four small children at home, and she is spendinig so much of her time making absolutely psychotic conspiratorial allegations. It's sad when you take a step back. Praying for her and her children.

Would not be surprised if this is what Erika is doing.
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Rapier108 said:

tk111 said:

Quite sad about how Candace has gone off the rails. When she first came on the scene in that congress hearing as an intelligent young lady she looked very promising. I dunno if it was the circus at daily wire or what, but something straight up broke her brain.

Postpartum psychosis

HAS TO BE THIS. Or something along those lines. In recent years she has increasingly struck me as someone with severe narcissistic personality disorder and desperate need for attention. A lot of time, mental conditions come in pairs or more.

I am hoping she doesn't descend into full scale schizophrenia where she just completely loses it and makes ZERO sense at all. Mostly for her children.
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The internet has made too many think they are investigators of the truth. Instead, they are just consumers of other people's narratives. The internet is not a healthy place.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It doesn't help that so many outright conspiracies have unfolded before our eyes over the past 5-6+ years...and that American institutions have rightfully lost just about any and all trust they ever had with tens of millions of people.

When you can't trust anything, and think your government is always lying to you - because THEY ARE...it's a breeding ground for crazy conspiracy theories. I still think a lot of these are fueled by bots btw. I see crazy sh** in the comments sections, and often times it's someone with an AI image and very little to no followers.

Can only really trust God, family, close friends, and vetted, like minded God-fearing patriots. Pretty much everyone else is always lying or manipulating or swindling your ass.
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MouthBQ98 said:

There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.


you just described my wife, but its just usually me to blame, not a conspiracy.
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Claude! said:

Tell me more about this bee cult.

Probably some weird new way to refer to the Babylon Bee.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It doesn't help that so many outright conspiracies have unfolded before our eyes over the past 5-6+ years...and that American institutions have rightfully lost just about any and all trust they ever had with tens of millions of people.

When you can't trust anything, and think your government is always lying to you - because THEY ARE...it's a breeding ground for crazy conspiracy theories. I still think a lot of these are fueled by bots btw. I see crazy sh** in the comments sections, and often times it's someone with an AI image and very little to no followers.

Can only really trust God, family, close friends, and vetted, like minded God-fearing patriots. Pretty much everyone else is always lying or manipulating or swindling your ass.

I don't think there have been as many "conspiracies" as people think but there have been a few. So now we have individuals believing anything contrary to what happened based solely on other bad information.

Yes, we can blame people when they fall for conspiracy theories that aren't based on reality. They don't get a pass simply because of other bad situations.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
LMCane
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There is a larger issue than just Charlie here-

there is a SICKNESS amongst the far right and the far left (horseshoe theory)

where they are so consumed by hatred they will blame anyone and everyone to basically blow up society.

This is a great interview of Charlie's head of security- I trust him a hell of a lot more than crazy Candace!

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MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It's easier to construct a conspiracy and then blame it then deal with a more complex and subtle reality which often places blame in chance or misfortune which can't be blamed, or places parts of the blame in many directions, which makes accountability difficult. I think this type of thinking is consuming people who tend towards neurotic.


100% true!

the more interesting question is WHY is this happening?

when by LITERALLY EVERY MEASURE American society today is wealthier, more successful and healthier than any other time in world history??!
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El Gallo Blanco said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It doesn't help that so many outright conspiracies have unfolded before our eyes over the past 5-6+ years...and that American institutions have rightfully lost just about any and all trust they ever had with tens of millions of people.

When you can't trust anything, and think your government is always lying to you - because THEY ARE...it's a breeding ground for crazy conspiracy theories. I still think a lot of these are fueled by bots btw. I see crazy sh** in the comments sections, and often times it's someone with an AI image and very little to no followers.

Except a lot of what people cite as "conspiracies" never actually were. The Democrats and media would label them as such to try to silence people.

The WuFlu came from nature or the lab. Those were the only two options.

HQC worked, a 2015 paper by none other than Anthony Fauci said it worked against SARS-1, which is why doctors used it early on. As soon as Trump mentioned it, the Democrats and media went nuclear because it was Trump. They wanted the fear and terror of the virus to help them against Trump. Same reason they went after Ivermectin.

Russia, Russia, Russia was either true, or the Democrats were using the junk from Steele to run a witch hunt. The real ones pushing a conspiracy theory about Russia were the Democrats. Everyone else was calling it for what it was, BS from the word go.

The shots were dangerous or they weren't. Again, the Democrats labeled all concerns as a "conspiracy theory." The truth is in between. They are not safe, but they were not anywhere close to the level of injecting plutonium like some considered them to be, nor is every single death of someone under the age of 90 caused by them.

Q-Anon was the biggest conspiracy **** fest of all, and either supreme trolling of the right, or some kind of psyops. Countless people still believe and still check daily to see if there is a new "Q" drop.

And of course, we can't go a day without some new antisemitic conspiracy being pushed.

Recently we had someone here claim the FBI sent the "trans" guy to shoot up the Minnesota church, because it was preparing to raid a "church" in Florida and Texas that was actually a front for numerous illegal enterprises. He claimed it was a "coordinated attack on Christianity" by the FBI.

There is a huge conspiracy theory industry on the right, especially with people like Candace Owens and Laura Loomer. They know the grift and make bank on it.

The left went off the rails so long ago that they'll believe anything which fits their world view no matter how crazy it is.

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Just because something doesn't make logical sense, or there is missing/unavailable information does not mean it is a conspiracy.

Logic and critical thinking really has gone out the window and people, especially on the right, need to get it back.

Occam's razor is still as true today as it ever was.

One of my favorites is that Bill Clinton had the US Navy shoot down TWA 800. When pointing out to people that when a ship fires a SM-1 or SM-2 missile, everyone on the ship knows it. If there had been a US warship in the area and had fired a missile, hundreds of sailors on that ship would know what happened and someone would have talked. The response usually is "Clinton had everyone on the ship killed to cover it up" which is even more absurd because killing a couple of hundred sailors would also be impossible to cover up.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
El Gallo Blanco
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It doesn't help that so many outright conspiracies have unfolded before our eyes over the past 5-6+ years...and that American institutions have rightfully lost just about any and all trust they ever had with tens of millions of people.

When you can't trust anything, and think your government is always lying to you - because THEY ARE...it's a breeding ground for crazy conspiracy theories. I still think a lot of these are fueled by bots btw. I see crazy sh** in the comments sections, and often times it's someone with an AI image and very little to no followers.

Can only really trust God, family, close friends, and vetted, like minded God-fearing patriots. Pretty much everyone else is always lying or manipulating or swindling your ass.

I don't think there have been as many "conspiracies" as people think but there have been a few. So now we have individuals believing anything contrary to what happened based solely on other bad information.

Yes, we can blame people when they fall for conspiracy theories that aren't based on reality. They don't get a pass simply because of other bad situations.

- OMG Russia Hoax
- Spygate
- Trump pee tapes
- Covid lab leak and cover ups
- Dem leaders warning against covid "vaccine" then months later implementing tyrannical "take it or be fired" measures
- Jan 6 pipe bomber
- Jan 6 swarming with feds, after Pelosi declined beefed up NG security and Twitter took down Trump's message calling for peace and law and order
- Obama IRS targetting political opposition
- Weaponized federal agencies openly engaging in election tampering and interference in 2020 presidential election
- Out of control USAID fraud
- BLM
- Medical professionals advising that massive gatherings of people during the absolute height of Covid lockdowns were "ok" as long as they were protesting or rioting for a "noble" or "approved" social justice cause
- Oh and the media and vast majority of government are literally ALWAYS lying to us

This is just a tiny list I rattled off the top of my head. I am sure others can think of more.
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Rapier108 said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It doesn't help that so many outright conspiracies have unfolded before our eyes over the past 5-6+ years...and that American institutions have rightfully lost just about any and all trust they ever had with tens of millions of people.

When you can't trust anything, and think your government is always lying to you - because THEY ARE...it's a breeding ground for crazy conspiracy theories. I still think a lot of these are fueled by bots btw. I see crazy sh** in the comments sections, and often times it's someone with an AI image and very little to no followers.

Except a lot of what people cite as "conspiracies" never actually were. The Democrats and media would label them as such to try to silence people.

The WuFlu came from nature or the lab. Those were the only two options.

HQC worked, a 2015 paper by none other than Anthony Fauci said it worked against SARS-1, which is why doctors used it early on. As soon as Trump mentioned it, the Democrats and media went nuclear because it was Trump. They wanted the fear and terror of the virus to help them against Trump. Same reason they went after Ivermectin.

Russia, Russia, Russia was either true, or the Democrats were using the junk from Steele to run a witch hunt. The real ones pushing a conspiracy theory about Russia were the Democrats. Everyone else was calling it for what it was, BS from the word go.

The shots were dangerous or they weren't. Again, the Democrats labeled all concerns as a "conspiracy theory." The truth is in between. They are not safe, but they were not anywhere close to the level of injecting plutonium like some considered them to be, nor is every single death of someone under the age of 90 caused by them.

Q-Anon was the biggest conspiracy **** fest of all, and either supreme trolling of the right, or some kind of psyops. Countless people still believe and still check daily to see if there is a new "Q" drop.

And of course, we can't go a day without some new antisemitic conspiracy being pushed.

Recently we had someone here claim the FBI sent the "trans" guy to shoot up the Minnesota church, because it was preparing to raid a "church" in Florida and Texas that was actually a front for numerous illegal enterprises. He claimed it was a "coordinated attack on Christianity" by the FBI.

There is a huge conspiracy theory industry on the right, especially with people like Candace Owens and Laura Loomer. They know the grift and make bank on it.

The left went off the rails so long ago that they'll believe anything which fits their world view no matter how crazy it is.

___________________________

Just because something doesn't make logical sense, or there is missing/unavailable information does not mean it is a conspiracy.

Logic and critical thinking really has gone out the window and people, especially on the right, need to get it back.

Occam's razor is still as true today as it ever was.

One of my favorites is that Bill Clinton had the US Navy shoot down TWA 800. When pointing out to people that when a ship fires a SM-1 or SM-2 missile, everyone on the ship knows it. If there had been a US warship in the area and had fired a missile, hundreds of sailors on that ship would know what happened and someone would have talked. The response usually is "Clinton had everyone on the ship killed to cover it up" which is even more absurd because killing a couple of hundred sailors would also be impossible to cover up.

I disagree, see my post below yours citing all types of shady sh** our government has carried out. Much of it is unprecedented and would have been unthinkable a decade+ ago. Much of it makes Watergate seem like daycare shenanigans.

Anyone who generally trusts the government or our media are absolute fools.

And I truly believe Covid was intentionally leaked by China. It's the only way Trump loses in 2020...and China doesn't even care about it's own people as long as they are pursuing a pro-state agenda.

Serious question...do you know what a "conspiracy" is? Or what it means to "conspire"? It does not seem so. Here you go...

Quote:

make secret plans jointly to commit an unlawful or harmful act.

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MAROON said:

Candace Owens is insane and a blithering idiot. Why would anyone follow her or put stock in anything she says?

I mean, her target audience are the dipsh/ts who fell for Q Anon...she's either truly going crazy, or faking going crazy...either way she's grifting off of dumb phaucks (which is what she's done her entire career).
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Ervin Burrell said:

MAROON said:

Candace Owens is insane and a blithering idiot. Why would anyone follow her or put stock in anything she says?

I mean, her target audience are the dipsh/ts who fell for Q Anon...she's either truly going crazy, or faking going crazy...either way she's grifting off of dumb phaucks (which is what she's done her entire career).


No it hasn't been her whole career. She didn't start off that way at all, which is why it's so disappointing.
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A bee cult? Like in Wicker Man?

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The crazy/hot matrix remains undefeated

Rapier108
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Whatever.

Most things are not some ****ing grand conspiracy by (insert the flavor of the day) despite the desire many have for every single ****ing event to be one.

Hell, some people go so far to believe we live in The Matrix or some other kind of computer simulation.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Candace seemed like a real intelligent, aspiring, up and coming person when she first came on the scene as Charlie's right hand "man". However, seems like once she got pregnant, she went off the deep end and now even worse. Not sure if it is hormonal or something else but she has definitely lost all credibility of having any rational thoughts.
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She's not "crazy." She is grifting. And it works. Because MAGA.
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Rapier108 said:

Whatever.

Most things are not some ****ing grand conspiracy by (insert the flavor of the day) despite the desire many have for every single ****ing event to be one.

Hell, some people go so far to believe we live in The Matrix or some other kind of computer simulation.

The government, media, and various major institutions are ALWAYS conspiring. Non f-ing stop.

And we are always being lied to...nonstop. Oh, and now there are tens of millions of bots swarming comments sections online with every major social media platform. This is an unprecedented breeding ground for conspiracy theorists. But conspiracies carried out by our government definitely seem to have ramped up in recent years. You can shoot down some of my list above with semantics, but not the bulk of it.

Also, along the lines of the bots, I think they serve two purposes (a) giving the illusion that there are more crazies than there actually are, and (b) influencing opinions of the stupid and vulnerable. Elon and some of the other top minds in tech have estimated social media activity to be 70-80% bots, possibly more.

People who believe we are in a simulation or that the moon is fake or (insert crazy ass theory here) are in the extreme minority and should be treated as such. I am talking about real, diabolical conspiracies carried out by our government, media, institutions etc.
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shiftyandquick said:

She's not "crazy." She is grifting. And it works. Because MAGA.

I disagree. She is clearly struggling with mental illness. And she keeps doubling down.
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Candace seemed so sane and intelligent just a few years ago. It's like she's gone totalmente loco ever since she hung out with Kanye West.
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El Gallo Blanco said:

shiftyandquick said:

She's not "crazy." She is grifting. And it works. Because MAGA.

I disagree. She is clearly struggling with mental illness. And she keeps doubling down.

Like I have said on other threads. I think is postpartum depression. She's had 4 kids in 6 years. Not saying she's Andrea Yates crazy, look at her mental health with all those kids. I think Candace with all those kids, running around doing pod cast and interviews and the death of a dear friend in Charlie Kirk has sent her into a tail spin. The question I keep asking, where is her husband to rein her in and give her the help she needs.
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shiftyandquick said:

She's not "crazy." She is grifting. And it works. Because MAGA.

Yes, of course. There was no one like that before MAGA.

Every day is a new day, everything under the sun is new and unprecedented. Because MAGA.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Large segments of our society are devolving into conspiratorial thinking or obsessions I have noticed. I think it is partly the flood of information of highly variable quality from social media that can be used with confirmation bias to easily construct narratives, and an increased feeling of helplessness or hopelessness or even nihilism in general. There is an increased impetus to search for someone or something to blame as a simple causal explanation for bad circumstances or events, instead of patiently finding, validating, and analyzing information.

It's easier to construct a conspiracy and then blame it then deal with a more complex and subtle reality which often places blame in chance or misfortune which can't be blamed, or places parts of the blame in many directions, which makes accountability difficult. I think this type of thinking is consuming people who tend towards neurotic.

I don't know what your day-job is, but this is one of the best analyses I've seen in a while.
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