Instead of Suicide Prevention Hotline
It's Suicide Encouragement Hotline
It's Suicide Encouragement Hotline
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The problem with Canada is that their doctors and nurses have been repeatedly caught bringing it up to patients who have shown no interest in it and suggesting and encouraging it. An Alberta woman with cerebral palsy was told by a nurse that she should consider euthanasia because she just existing, not living. When she questioned the nurse who she was to judge what was living or not, the nurse said she was being selfish. Canadian health professionals have been known to push that idea, that those who are chronically ill or elderly are selfish for being a burden to their families and taxpayers finding the medical system.
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However, allowing this for people who are just lonely and want to do it on a whim is a slippery slope of evil.
FrioAg 00 said:
The leftist agenda, in no particular order:
- end your genetic line by not having babies
- neuter yourself with surgery and chemical castration before adulthood
- if you do get pregnant, murder it
- kill yourself
- no assets should be "yours", just allow the government to redistribute all of it
- end families
- end Faith
- hate your own country
- hate your own race
- hate your own gender
That about cover it?
B-1 83 said:
Amazing…..1-2 days to kill a person, but weeks to get a change in chemo.
LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
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A growing number of patients who request medical assistance in dying are asking to donate their organs for transplant, says an international review that found that Canada is performing the most organ transplants from MAID patients among the four countries studied that offer this practice.
B-1 83 said:LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
How would you like your terminally ill wife to ask you the same thing? God has a plan, and it doesn't involve the government doctor.
fasthorse05 said:LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
Don't misunderstand me, I very much would like to have a law similar to this one. And BTW, God Bless you after watching and living through that.
The sane people that would allow it, or use it, for its intended purpose would be wonderful. The problem is the natural human progression to what has, and is, happening.
Two issues will invariably happen. 1. Big government (or government) that has ANY policy or ownership of their country's healthcare, will 100% gravitate towards killing anyone, and everyone, as the invariable fees, expenses, and dollars add up. As I stated earlier, the laws of economics give exactly two ****s about the feelings of humans. 2. Those same feelings of humans, pretty much everyone outside of immediate family, will gladly establish their own life sentence on a person simply because they would never want to be in that situation themselves, and that's understandable.
For those two reasons, I would NEVER vote, or allow, my country to pass this type of bill.
LoneStarFree said:B-1 83 said:LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
How would you like your terminally ill wife to ask you the same thing? God has a plan, and it doesn't involve the government doctor.
I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't like my terminally ill dad asking me that, so why would I want my terminally ill wife to ask the same?
B-1 83 said:LoneStarFree said:B-1 83 said:LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
How would you like your terminally ill wife to ask you the same thing? God has a plan, and it doesn't involve the government doctor.
I'm not sure I understand the question. I didn't like my terminally ill dad asking me that, so why would I want my terminally ill wife to ask the same?
I simply understand where you are coming from.
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Alice and Ellen Kessler, the German twins who rose to fame in the 1950s as a variety entertainment duo, have died at the age of 89 by joint assisted suicide, advocacy organization the German Society for Humane Dying (DGHS) said on Tuesday.
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"The decisive factor is likely to have been the desire to die together on a specific date," DGHS spokesperson Wega Wetzel told CNN, adding that she wasn't aware of the precise reasons given by each woman.
Mr.Ackar07 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/18/entertainment/kessler-twins-die-assisted-suicide-intl-scliQuote:
Alice and Ellen Kessler, the German twins who rose to fame in the 1950s as a variety entertainment duo, have died at the age of 89 by joint assisted suicide, advocacy organization the German Society for Humane Dying (DGHS) said on Tuesday.Quote:
"The decisive factor is likely to have been the desire to die together on a specific date," DGHS spokesperson Wega Wetzel told CNN, adding that she wasn't aware of the precise reasons given by each woman.
What about assisted suicide that does not have an underlying condition?
Caliber said:Mr.Ackar07 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/18/entertainment/kessler-twins-die-assisted-suicide-intl-scliQuote:
Alice and Ellen Kessler, the German twins who rose to fame in the 1950s as a variety entertainment duo, have died at the age of 89 by joint assisted suicide, advocacy organization the German Society for Humane Dying (DGHS) said on Tuesday.Quote:
"The decisive factor is likely to have been the desire to die together on a specific date," DGHS spokesperson Wega Wetzel told CNN, adding that she wasn't aware of the precise reasons given by each woman.
What about assisted suicide that does not have an underlying condition?
I'm absolutely floored that the Germans would have a euthanasia program but still have all of their anti-nazi laws...
LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
infinity ag said:LoneStarFree said:titan said:
Very ambivalent about this. There are circumstances where self-ending when at the extreme end of life makes sense, much like the aged villager who walked out into the wild when a new child was born to not strain the resources. This when it is a fully considered decision, however....
The real concern is the potential for abuse in cases of big inheritances being passed down, relatives kind of "ushering in" the choice. Or governments doing it for reduction of costs reasons --- the much ridiculed health care rationing Sarah Palin warned about.
After watching my dad slowly die from stage 4 colon cancer, and after having him beg ME to kill him while he was in hospice because he was in so much pain. I do think in some cases euthanasia is warranted. I sometimes still tear up when thinking about one of the strongest men I've ever known wasting away to nothing before dying.
I agree with you.
I think it is okay to relieve people of their pain when nothing more can be done. I look at it as an act of mercy.
Sad but that is life.
Sorry to hear what you went through.
Assisted suicide should be legal but there are two problems here. One is if you have government run healthcare then being skeptical of their motives in aiding people with suicide is perfectly reasonable. They definitely have a financial incentive to eliminate the cost ineffective.dixie whiskey said:
the backbone of the modern conservative: we believe the govt should be small and should stay out of our business. unless grown adults start making choices we don't like. then the govt should stop those adults from making their own decisions because we don't like them. doubly so if their decisions don't align with our brand of christianity