TrumpRX - another mind meld into distraught liberals.

For some, from $1000 to $50.

Great Trump, on so many planes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/trump-weight-loss-drugs-cost-wegovy-zepbound-novo-nordisk-eli-lilly-rcna242309

Obesity drugs.

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Obesity drugs.

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Please explain the hate. It would cost effective to ship these drugs for free to every obese person on SNAP and Medicaid or receiving large ObamaCare subsidies and require weigh ins every 6 months.

Would save hundreds of billions of dollars.

how ironic will it be when they discover the side effects of GLP 1s are worse than just being fat

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how ironic will it be when they discover the side effects of GLP 1s are worse than just being fat

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For most people the side effects when taken as directly are fatigue and nausea, and those are usually the day or two after injection.

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Obesity drugs.

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Please explain the hate. It would cost effective to ship these drugs for free to every obese person on SNAP and Medicaid or receiving large ObamaCare subsidies and require weigh ins every 6 months.

Would save hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Adding to this, would be the greatest single event to extending life and quality of life in America since...ever?

BTW, no personal benefit for me.

Those of us who have spent years being self disciplined and putting in the work and putting down the fork are a little irritated.

Big brother never subsidized most of the costs of my gym membership and workout equipment. Not one cent was eligible until just this past year even for HSA spending.

But, I won't spite it too much as a taxpayer and someone who is obligated to purchase or have health insurance. If it can artificially make a lot of the health disaster high cost insurance rate exploding obese population more healthy and therefore less chronically costly to the overall health care system, then that is good. As a former fat guy, I know how addictive engineered food can be and how hard it is to battle your own biology with willpower alone. If those drugs make the path towards better overall health possible for more people then that is great. I hope in losing some weight, they get inspired to also get more fit with exercise and a better diet also.

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how ironic will it be when they discover the side effects of GLP 1s are worse than just being fat

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For most people the side effects when taken as directly are fatigue and nausea, and those are usually the day or two after injection.

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That sounds pretty meaningless unless on an assembly line just after taking it. You mean the side effects go away within a week?

In any case agree with those this seems more likely to cost less by its preventive aspect with obesity than not if these things actually work. Have no idea.

When I took it they usually went away by the end of the next day. It's more of a lethargy than a fatigue for me. I did notice if you exercise regularly the side effects aren't nearly as bad. I was told by my doctor that most of the side effects like that aren't even tied to the meds but rather a severe reduction in caloric intake and people are in starvation mode.

I still have an active prescription and take it leading up to army PT tests to lean up a bit. Tricare basically covers it for free now and once you get an Rx you can pretty much keep it for life.

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Obesity drugs.

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Please explain the hate. It would cost effective to ship these drugs for free to every obese person on SNAP and Medicaid or receiving large ObamaCare subsidies and require weigh ins every 6 months.

Would save hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Obesity is the result of bad choices, and bad choices lead to strains on our social and medical safety net.

This drug enables bad choices.

Not necessarily. The drug leads to no food cravings or even enjoyment of food. It's easier for people to make better choices when a salad is as appealing as a greasy cheeseburger and fries because both sound awful.

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When I took it they usually went away by the end of the next day. It's more of a lethargy than a fatigue for me. I did notice if you exercise regularly the side effects aren't nearly as bad. I was told by my doctor that most of the side effects like that aren't even tied to the meds but rather a severe reduction in caloric intake and people are in starvation mode.

I still have an active prescription and take it leading up to army PT tests to lean up a bit. Tricare basically covers it for free now and once you get an Rx you can pretty much keep it for life.

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Is it necessary to take your entire life?

It totally messed up my sister's pancreas.

I think this is good? We are so freaking fat as a country it's not only embarrassing, it's costing taxpayers way too much money to keep all these fat people barely alive, just so they can pile more crap down their throats, also paid for by John Q Taxpayer.

I've also thought to myself what is going to be the asbestos of our time and I'm leaning GLP1s currently.

Let's see how it all plays out.

Better living through chemistry.

These drugs help with basically every big issue in public health. 90% of Americans will be on them in the next few decades

Good that it's the companies deciding on their own and not a govt overstep.

These drugs are great tech, genuinely, but like a lot of "great tech" idiotic and bad for humanity, in general .

I'd agree, but it literally makes them not hungry. They don't buy junk food because they don't want it. They don't get as obese, and then they aren't having expensive chronic obesity related health issues with such frequency and severity.

Giving them one drug might get them off several others and result in fewer doctor visits, medical procedures, and other things that are tax payer funded or subsidized or socialized by health insurance. I begrudgingly see it as a win, though aI am still pissed off that I went hungry and sweated and suffered for years without so much as a dollar in tax relief from Uncle Sam in thanks for not contributing to the problem and barely any premium discount from my insurance provider.

It also makes you want to smoke, drink, and gamble less.

Have similar thoughts overall.

On a related note, have always been surprised that gym memberships aren't part of typical health insurance or incentivized in some way. I know some have it available but I've always worked for Fortune 100 companies and never had it. I don't want the government incentivizing much of anything but seems like a fairly harmless one that could be positive.

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I'd agree, but it literally makes them not hungry. They don't buy junk food because they don't want it. They don't get as obese, and then they aren't having expensive chronic obesity related health issues with such frequency and severity.

Giving them one drug might get them off several others and result in fewer doctor visits, medical procedures, and other things that are tax payer funded or subsidized or socialized by health insurance. I begrudgingly see it as a win, though aI am still pissed off that I went hungry and sweated and suffered for years without so much as a dollar in tax relief from Uncle Sam in thanks for not contributing to the problem and barely any premium discount from my insurance provider.

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Ditto. Like all these thousands of dollars paying rent and everything else for illegals when trying to pay off one bill after another. It would be interesting if enough American born end up saying none of us are paying until this stops. If its enough they can't put it down. That is how Solidarity in Poland went somewhat.

Related to this, increasingly favor Trump's idea of a stimulus 5k check. He needs something tangible for the voters in 2026. The too well off don't understand that the middle can't related to big abstracts of this and that balance and world here and the other. After some reading, starting to think that is what spooked Trump about Nov 4. That may be what picking up on.

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I'd agree, but it literally makes them not hungry. They don't buy junk food because they don't want it. They don't get as obese, and then they aren't having expensive chronic obesity related health issues with such frequency and severity.

Giving them one drug might get them off several others and result in fewer doctor visits, medical procedures, and other things that are tax payer funded or subsidized or socialized by health insurance. I begrudgingly see it as a win, though aI am still pissed off that I went hungry and sweated and suffered for years without so much as a dollar in tax relief from Uncle Sam in thanks for not contributing to the problem and barely any premium discount from my insurance provider.

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It's a good solution on it's surface to the health and bad choices problem we have as a culture, but it does not fix the users decision making that lead to the problem in the first place. This is the type of solution that attempts to solve one problem but leads to another problem later replacing the original. Maybe instead of the sugar rush from bad foods or lethargic utopia after greasy food, people increase gambling habits to get their fix? Or other drugs?

I'm just saying the best solution, though likely the hardest and most unlikely, is to fix the root cause rather than putting a bandaid over it. Though I do like the potential cost savings this drug could provide by making our country less obese. Fat shaming becoming commonplace would fix this problem real quick and not create a dependence on a drug.

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Maybe instead of the sugar rush from bad foods or lethargic utopia after greasy food, people increase gambling habits to get their fix? Or other drugs?

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It's been shown to reduce gambling smoking and alcohol use as well. You just really don't want to do anything impulsively while on it.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2025/diabetes-drugs-also-curb-addictions/

was going to make a joke, but this is the part of it that concerns me.

Makes me think it is messing with the rewards center of your brain, and that doesn't seem like a good thing to mess with. Obviously if you have serious problems with gambling, smoking, drinking, then this could be good for you, but the housewives taking it to drop 5-10 lbs before spring break might be playing with fire.

Overall don't hate the idea of making it free / cheap to all of these obese people chewing up our healthcare dollars. Would I prefer they lose weight on their own? sure. But that clearly isn't happening. Have to think it would save on healthcare costs overall if they go from 300 lbs to 180

On a philosophical level it is a little troubling. On the other hand, humans (and the human brain) was in no way evolved for the modern world.

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Have similar thoughts overall.

On a related note, have always been surprised that gym memberships aren't part of typical health insurance or incentivized in some way. I know some have it available but I've always worked for Fortune 100 companies and never had it. I don't want the government incentivizing much of anything but seems like a fairly harmless one that could be positive.

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At my last job we had a Y across the street. Monthly membership was like $60 but if you used it 12-15 times/mo (I think) the company covered half of it. They also had a requirement for an annual physical and st least two other preventative doc visits (eyes, dentists, well woman) to get a reduction your health insurance.

If only it would work. There is now fatty solidarity and a fatty standard. Everyone is literally used to seeing other overweight and fat people as normal so nobody notices so much how overweight Americans have become on average. We're really pretty gross looking as a population. Corpulent. But since it is so many of us, we barely notice, and since so many people are overweight, they aren't going to participate in any shaming for gluttony or snd may likely defend it. I'm pretty harsh on it because that's part of my own self disciple to keep myself from backsliding. I'm almost ruthlessly self critical when it comes to fitness and diet. I have to be. I haven been on a prescription drug in 15 years and I'm not intending to start any of if I can help it.

Put 'em on a treadmill not drugs.

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She won't get an Rx for that. To be prescribed for obesity by most insurance plans you need to have a 30BMI or over and have shown initial progress in a weight management plan. For example, with Tricare you need to show satisfactory progress on a diet and exercise program for a few months before they will approve coverage.

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Maybe instead of the sugar rush from bad foods or lethargic utopia after greasy food, people increase gambling habits to get their fix? Or other drugs?

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It's been shown to reduce gambling smoking and alcohol use as well. You just really don't want to do anything impulsively while on it.

https://www.bu.edu/articles/2025/diabetes-drugs-also-curb-addictions/

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Will it make them not impulsively vote Democrat because of REEE?

Knew quite a few people that said they didn't want to drink alcohol when on the the weight loss drugs. Good thing if you ask me.

But there has also been a lot of complications from these drugs. As an individual you should do everything you can to fix your obesity without drugs. To me it is not worth the risk unless you are severely obese. As a country studies have shown it will reduce the burden on the health care system by people losing weight. At the end of the day it is cheaper for the government to hand out these drugs than deal with the obesity epidemic we are facing.

So body acceptance is a thing because losing weight is hard. When the pill forms of the glp1 get to the market (less than 5 years) there aren't going to be any more fat people.

Not to derail here, but this is a huge trend where I live in Dallas. Dr.'s passing out ozempic pretty freely and all the housewives take it to stay skinny as they get older.

Hell, I've had two doctors try to get me on it because I was about 20 lbs over my desired weight. Neither asked me about my eating or exercise habits. Stopped eating as much and walking more and was luckily able to lose about 18 lbs on my own. I'm a dude that doesn't really care what I look like, besides just wanting to be healthy. Can certainly imagine if I was an image conscious woman how I would've taken the prescription (at the Dr's suggestion btw).

next up are pills that do targeted fat loss and stimulate muscle growth. we're all gonna be hot.

I've heard that there are some studies about one of these drugs potentially helping with Alzheimer's, either staving it off or reducing the severity or symptoms? Not sure which but the studies are ongoing.

The bigger side effect is that you can lose muscle if you don't exercise while on them. My sister lost weight but never exercised and she became weaker and was more "skinny fat". But she's probably better off than she was at the weight she was at before. Ideally they'd be part of an overall health plan for yourself.

Pill form (Rybelsus) is aleady available, it's just not as effective.

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It's unclear whether people on Medicare who need the drugs for weight loss alone would benefit. Medicare is barred from covering drugs that treat weight loss alone.

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Your posts assumes laws could be passed changing that (possible, but unlikely because Dems are just evil) and also pass a law requiring weigh ins (which will never happen sadly)



NOTE: I LOVE that Trump did this. Cheaper prices for Americans! Making great use of the tariff issue!

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Both drugmakers will get relief from pharmaceutical tariffs for three years.

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(Links all from OP article)