Do we still have special forces? Alot of things happened and I don't want or even need to know about it. With the billions we spend yearly I don't want to see the story of Christians being killed and I don't want the president to have to tweet out a response just handle it. The whole world doesn't need to know when we do something.

Why don't these Christians defend themselves? They have access to firearms.

This is not a new phenomenon in that country

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Trump says "If I'm not going to get the Nobel Peace prize then F it"

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Nobel prize for what? Israel is still Bombing Gaza, war in Ukraine rages on….

He's the King of saying "deals" are done with no substance behind it.

I run a relief organization on the ground in Nigeria, and from what I'm hearing from our workers, the government is already beginning to snap back in line. Our West Africa director was on Fox this morning sharing his thoughts about the situation...



Like most here, I'm praying the Nigerian government takes full ownership of this crisis and no US intervention is needed. I'm also praying this sends a message to other governments in the region that religious freedom of all types must be defended.

Bad Trump.

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Why don't these Christians defend themselves? They have access to firearms.

This is not a new phenomenon in that country

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Say you've never set foot in the region without saying it directly!

Yeah the local gun shop is right next door to the Buc Ees.

FYI a loose 22 shell you forgot about in one of the pockets of your luggage will get your ass thrown in prison

I'm conflicted on this.

I generally am against world police type interventions, especially when it's under dubious ideas of "saving the children" or "bringing democracy to the Middle East". These are missions with no end goals. Missions that can constantly shift.

Now, a distinction CAN be drawn here - while admitting to myself this could be mental gymnastics.

If the claim is "Nigerian Christian's are being systematically exterminated by Islamic terrorists", the respond could only be agreed by me if it is "We are going in to exterminate every Islamic radical in Nigeria, and then we are out" I may be okay with it. Or, we exterminate all the Islamic radicals and then hand the country back to its rightful leader.

If that's the mission with hard defined parameters, I could be for it. Trump has shown this kind of strategic restraint before like when we struck Iran. Even Tucker Carlson was cliff jumping. What did Trump Admin do? Exactly what it said it would - take out certain facilities. Precise and systematic. Nothing else (publicly).

As a Christian, I can't help but feel that if fellow Christians are being exterminated and we have the means to help, we should. Does this mean get into an African gauntlet? Absolutely not.

As an aside, there's a huge Nigerian population here and idk if yall have come across many of them, but I have, and the vast majority of them are salt of the earth people. Hard workers, Christ believers, and generally more right wing. That could also be part of this.

Nm

YouBet said:

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https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/trump-threatens-military-action-in-nigeria-in-defense-of-christians-195cab8a?st=eHSZNP&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Great with halting aid. Should have already happened but military intervention? Please, God, no.

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Trump said in a post on Truth Social Saturday that he had instructed the Defense Department to prepare for possible action in Nigeria, where he said the U.S. could go in "guns-a-blazing" with the goal of wiping out Islamist militants in the country. Trump also threatened to halt all aid and assistance to the country if it "continues to allow the killing of Christians."

The U.S. provided some $550 million in foreign aid to Nigeria this year, compared with about $880 million the previous year, according to U.S. government data.

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If we are going to intervene in Nigeria, then why wouldn't we intervene in Sudan, Niger, Mali, Burkina Faso and all others that Islamists are about to take over? Are any of these countries strategically important to us? Our only base on the continent is in Djibouti so that's the only strategic asset we have there.

The Russians are abandoning Africa as reported in the Mali thread and while China has made inroads they'll get rolled by the Islamist as well, eventually. Thus, it's not like we are giving anything up to another super power by not getting involved.

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We are already in most of those places and have been for many many years. So are the French

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Well, I'm sick & tired of the GLOBAL Christian genocide being ignored by Western Civilizations too preoccupied with their own Christian persecution & damnation (like here in the U.S. & especially in the U.K.); frankly, I fully support Trump utilizing drones, both big & small, along with lazer-guided bombs & helicopter gunships to strike back at these Islamic terrorists. Maybe decisive & overwhelming firepower is necessary to send a "zero tolerance" message to other countries & European organizations (ie. United Nations) who are guilty of turning a blind eye towards Africa's genocide of BOTH Christians of any race AND White folks living there.

Who knows, maybe Greta the "Doom Goblin" will choose to speak out against Christian genocides & diasporas happening in Africa & elsewhere, such as in India & Syria; "Please help us Doom Goblin, you're our only hope!"

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This genocide has been ignored by the MSM for quite some time.
Ignored and Forgotten: The Unspoken Genocide of Christians in Africa The Deafening Silence: Christians Slaughtered by Jihadists in Africa and Beyond, and the World's Inexcusable Indifference GLOBALDISCONNECT FEB 20, 2025
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• unforgivable. In Nigeria alone, more than 62,000 Christians have been mercilessly slaughtered in the past decades by groups like Book Haram and ISWAP. Entire villages are wiped off the map, churches turned to ash, and families left broken and buried. The recent discovery of 70 Christians beheaded in a church in the DRC is the latest horrifying reminder of the escalating violence systematically targeting Christian communities.

Christians in Africa face worsening violence, report finds
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• A new report from International Christian Concern (ICC) has revealed a disturbing rise in violence against Christians across parts of Africa, with Nigeria, the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC), and Kenya experiencing a surge in attacks, abductions, massacres and forced displacements.

The reports are sickening. I did a search and no reports regarding this genocide was repotted by MSM. At the bottom of page one of the results was a Fox News report.

Compare that to "Palestinian genocide" search that had NPR, AP, Time, New York Times, BBC reports. And there is no Palestinian genocide at all because it is a complete lie.

I am not arguing we alone destroy these Islamic terrorist groups, but it should be an international effort to wipe these POS organizations. Won't happen because our MSM and the U.N. are amoral, corrupted lying sack of shirts.

"Donald the dove."

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I'd say voter's remorse. But we couldn't have had Kamala.

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I have Voter's Pride now

Remember when liberals cared about the world?

Yeah, it was bull*****

The killings in Nigeria are by satans minions.

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I'd say voter's remorse. But we couldn't have had Kamala.

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ZERO voters remorse! Just because he threatens and postures war doesn't mean war occurs.

Trump has set a new, high bar of working hard to achieve success with campaign promises. So I am willing to let him have some leeway.

The new strategy on the war on drugs and attacking the cartels who are directly responsible for getting drugs into the US is. a good one thus far. You get ID'ed loading a boat full of drugs and head north ……then all options on the table including instant rehabilitation is appropriate.

YouBet said:

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https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/trump-threatens-military-action-in-nigeria-in-defense-of-christians-195cab8a?st=eHSZNP&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Great with halting aid. Should have already happened but military intervention? Please, God, no.

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Trump said in a post on Truth Social Saturday that he had instructed the Defense Department to prepare for possible action in Nigeria, where he said the U.S. could go in "guns-a-blazing" with the goal of wiping out Islamist militants in the country. Trump also threatened to halt all aid and assistance to the country if it "continues to allow the killing of Christians."

The U.S. provided some $550 million in foreign aid to Nigeria this year, compared with about $880 million the previous year, according to U.S. government data.

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If we are going to intervene in Nigeria, then why wouldn't we intervene in Sudan, Niger, Mali, Burkina Faso and all others that Islamists are about to take over? Are any of these countries strategically important to us? Our only base on the continent is in Djibouti so that's the only strategic asset we have there.

The Russians are abandoning Africa as reported in the Mali thread and while China has made inroads they'll get rolled by the Islamist as well, eventually. Thus, it's not like we are giving anything up to another super power by not getting involved.

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At what point do we decide you can't genocide a group of people?

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YouBet said:

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https://www.wsj.com/world/africa/trump-threatens-military-action-in-nigeria-in-defense-of-christians-195cab8a?st=eHSZNP&reflink=article_copyURL_share

Great with halting aid. Should have already happened but military intervention? Please, God, no.

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Trump said in a post on Truth Social Saturday that he had instructed the Defense Department to prepare for possible action in Nigeria, where he said the U.S. could go in "guns-a-blazing" with the goal of wiping out Islamist militants in the country. Trump also threatened to halt all aid and assistance to the country if it "continues to allow the killing of Christians."

The U.S. provided some $550 million in foreign aid to Nigeria this year, compared with about $880 million the previous year, according to U.S. government data.

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If we are going to intervene in Nigeria, then why wouldn't we intervene in Sudan, Niger, Mali, Burkina Faso and all others that Islamists are about to take over? Are any of these countries strategically important to us? Our only base on the continent is in Djibouti so that's the only strategic asset we have there.

The Russians are abandoning Africa as reported in the Mali thread and while China has made inroads they'll get rolled by the Islamist as well, eventually. Thus, it's not like we are giving anything up to another super power by not getting involved.

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At what point do we decide you can't genocide a group of people?

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Probably when we decide we want to resume colonialism in Africa and have a permanent presence in multiple countries.

It's Africa. Genocide is routine there.

Worked in Lagos Nigeria for a couple of years. Very friendly people for the most part, never felt threatened and plenty times I was the only white face in the crowd. So many different languages are spoken which is a major reason they are slow at advancing.

In 2015, Nigerians voted in a Muslim president and the killings increased. He served until 2023 in which they have elected the current president who is also Muslim and the killings have gotten worst.

Muslims are more of a political movement with Sharia law as their primary goal. It is the fastest growing religion in the world and expanding all over the world.

Our liberal ladies will someday get A big fat "I told you so" as we get our heads chopped off.

Africa will become a caliphate used to wage war on the west inshallah.

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Africa will become a caliphate used to wage war on the west inshallah.

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Believe they mostly call them sultanates there and it's been going on for close to 1,500 years, primarily in northern and Eastern Africa.

But I think we should be focused on stopping the spread of Muslim religious dictators of the radical variety. Seems like Nigeria has had a couple of these and things need to be corrected. Drone the radical leaders and Christian killers.

I wouldn't assume it is always about resources. Sometimes geopolitics is about people.

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Let the pearl clutching begin

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It started with the OP clutching pearls as soon as they say the blip on their news feed.

Trump may do something I don't totally support so let's get all riled up.

This is Trump sending a trial balloon up. Not the AD trying to hire Mike Stoops before knowing how the fan base will react.

Lawd, you would have thought Trump send a division to Lagos for trench warfare based on some of the responses so far.

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Excuse me for reacting to the POTUS telling us that he's preparing to go to war in Nigeria.

From now on, I'll just assume he's lying.

(I totally recognize Trump's Art of the Deal negotiation tactics, but this is still something worthy to discuss and be concerned about - pearl clutching. Lord that's a gross oversimplification.)

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Really? and you go from "Trump said in a post on Truth Social Saturday that he had instructed the Defense Department to prepare for possible action in Nigeria" to "POTUS telling us that he's preparing to go to war in Nigeria." You clearly don't see what a Herculean leap that is. So clutch away Amigo....

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Whatever. You know what I mean. I prefer we have no military action in Africa whatsoever.

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Kill all Chriatains ?

no new wars, but we can have a couple minor crusades as a treat

And just like clockwork the drive by Micky D troll appears

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Africa will become a caliphate used to wage war on the west inshallah.

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This is actually the biggest concern. The population of the Sahel region is projected to grow to 500 million by 2050, and will have closer proximity to Western Europe and the US than any "terrorist" nation we're currently battling.

Religious freedom can prevent the next caliphate and a new wave of terrorism

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Let the pearl clutching begin

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It started with the OP clutching pearls as soon as they say the blip on their news feed.

Trump may do something I don't totally support so let's get all riled up.

This is Trump sending a trial balloon up. Not the AD trying to hire Mike Stoops before knowing how the fan base will react.

Lawd, you would have thought Trump send a division to Lagos for trench warfare based on some of the responses so far.

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Excuse me for reacting to the POTUS telling us that he's preparing to go to war in Nigeria.

From now on, I'll just assume he's lying.

(I totally recognize Trump's Art of the Deal negotiation tactics, but this is still something worthy to discuss and be concerned about - pearl clutching. Lord that's a gross oversimplification.)

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Really? and you go from "Trump said in a post on Truth Social Saturday that he had instructed the Defense Department to prepare for possible action in Nigeria" to "POTUS telling us that he's preparing to go to war in Nigeria." You clearly don't see what a Herculean leap that is. So clutch away Amigo....

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Whatever. You know what I mean. I prefer we have no military action in Africa whatsoever.

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Kill all Chriatains ?

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Yes, as a Christian myself I'm an advocate for killing all Christians. Dammit, I got found out!

If an American leaves America to live their lives, possibly for the rest of their lives, in another country, why is the country they left responsible for their safety?

Also, if things are that bad over there, and I'm sure they are, why can't they just leave?

If they do that, the country they left doesn't have to spend any of untold resources to save them from their own actions and decisions.

Also, if they are still Americans, but atheists, would the Christians on this board still be as supportive for Trump to go all nanny state and save them from their decisions?

This is part of Trump's philosophy on religious freedoms and not as much about rescuing persecuted American missionaries.

Now, it's absolutely open to debate whether this is America first or not. It is protecting one of our founding ideals, but personally I would prefer us not to involve ourselves there, but at this point I believe Trump is sending just a message, not a missile.

The real TDS is suddenly thinking starting a war in Africa is a good, America-First idea, just because Dear Leader said so.

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The real TDS is suddenly thinking starting a war in Africa is a good, America-First idea, just because Dear Leader said so.

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Yep. Ironic since your post is immediately after a true Trump sycophant who admitted her doesn't support military intervention in Nigeria.

It's why those retorts about MAGA being cult as just so wrong. But keep trying.

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This is part of Trump's philosophy on religious freedoms and not as much about rescuing persecuted American missionaries.

Now, it's absolutely open to debate whether this is America first or not. It is protecting one of our founding ideals, but personally I would prefer us not to involve ourselves there, but at this point I believe Trump is sending just a message, not a missile.

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I hear you, and agree. I'm sure it is more of a message. Those tend to be all that is needed, thankfully.

To me, there's just way more important things that any of those resources could be going to, like the Americans in this country first. Then, when this country is fixed, we can think about the Americans that left.

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This isn't America first.

But as a Catholic, I don't care.

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This is where I'm at on this.

I wasn't talking about them. But there's a decent contingent of people defending him on this.

I agree we need to focus on Americans here at home and intervening on the global stage for "humanitarian" issues is a luxury we cannot afford right now fiscally nor as a distraction.