KerrAg76 said:

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Liars kicking and screaming as they get called out

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My immediate response stands and proven true.

Well, given the Streisand effect of the story, I watched the segment. It raised some important questions, regardless of the CBS independence / liberal bias.

Claims made in the segment with my opinions in bold:
1. We were assured that prisoners sent to CECOT were the worst of the worst. It turns out, several prisoners were migrants with no criminal history (apart from illegally entering the country). If we are going to send human beings to other countries to be incarcerated, and we are reasonably certain we are sending them to hell on Earth, the punishment needs to be proportionate to the crime. Being illegally in the country is not sufficient enough to torture someone for the rest of their life in a 3rd world prison. We got it wrong here, and that isn't ok.
2. CECOT tortures and physically and sexually abuses (accusations of guards using batons to sodomize) criminals. This is just wrong and evil. Prison can be bad enough without beating and sexually assaulting people, I don't care how guilty they are. The US should support human dignity for all people, even criminals. This doesn't require a soft approach, just literally don't beat and sexually assault people as part of your prison policy.

She's factually challenged.

Malibu said:

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Well, given the Streisand effect of the story, I watched the segment. It raised some important questions, regardless of the CBS independence / liberal bias.

Claims made in the segment with my opinions in bold:
1. We were assured that prisoners sent to CECOT were the worst of the worst. It turns out, several prisoners were migrants with no criminal history (apart from illegally entering the country). If we are going to send human beings to other countries to be incarcerated, and we are reasonably certain we are sending them to hell on Earth, the punishment needs to be proportionate to the crime. Being illegally in the country is not sufficient enough to torture someone for the rest of their life in a 3rd world prison. We got it wrong here, and that isn't ok.
2. CECOT tortures and physically and sexually abuses (accusations of guards using batons to sodomize) criminals. This is just wrong and evil. Prison can be bad enough without beating and sexually assaulting people, I don't care how guilty they are. The US should support human dignity for all people, even criminals. This doesn't require a soft approach, just literally don't beat and sexually assault people as part of your prison policy.

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If only the White House response had been included in the piece, we all might be better informed of the facts

I hate "according to people familiar…", so take with a grain of salt.

"CBS News had sought—and received—responses from the Department of Homeland Security, the White House and the State Department, according to people familiar with the matter. The segment, which was available to some viewers in Canada and seen by the Journal, didn’t include the…

— Chris Cillizza (@ChrisCillizza) December 24, 2025

AJ02 said:

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I wish for every left leaning editorial put out, the same outfit is forced to put out a counterpart right leaning editorial.

I took journalism classes. It was drilled into us about making sure to use terms that were completely neutral to avoid adding any sort of bias to what we were saying.

1. Start the story with current events, not what happened in the past.
2. Make sure your word choices are completely neutral and convey no bias.
3. Keep your headline short, limited to x number of characters max.

Granted, it's been 25+ years since I've take journalism, but I do remember those key points. And 99% of all stories put out today by BOTH sides may be "true", but word choice is intentionally chosen in a biased manner.

For example, saw a headline recently that was something to the effect of "Man Dies from Material Found in 95% of all Home Kitchens".

Then you read the article....it was a lifelong quarry worker who inhaled mining dust over several decades and eventually developed a lung disease. So while headline isn't technically "false", it was obviously framed in a way to get people to freak out about something in their kitchen that's slowly killing them and their family.

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The last newscast I would call news, was on OAN. It was a news cast, no bias adjectives, just facts, no conjecture/assumptions, no editorials . Boring and dry but actually quite satisfying.

Take a molehill and make a mountain out of it. From outrage to hysteria. Those diapers won't wet themselves.

Malibu said:

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Well, given the Streisand effect of the story, I watched the segment. It raised some important questions, regardless of the CBS independence / liberal bias.

Claims made in the segment with my opinions in bold:
1. We were assured that prisoners sent to CECOT were the worst of the worst. It turns out, several prisoners were migrants with no criminal history (apart from illegally entering the country). If we are going to send human beings to other countries to be incarcerated, and we are reasonably certain we are sending them to hell on Earth, the punishment needs to be proportionate to the crime. Being illegally in the country is not sufficient enough to torture someone for the rest of their life in a 3rd world prison. We got it wrong here, and that isn't ok.
2. CECOT tortures and physically and sexually abuses (accusations of guards using batons to sodomize) criminals. This is just wrong and evil. Prison can be bad enough without beating and sexually assaulting people, I don't care how guilty they are. The US should support human dignity for all people, even criminals. This doesn't require a soft approach, just literally don't beat and sexually assault people as part of your prison policy.

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I don't care. If you're in the country illegally and get caught up in a sweep for illegals who are also committing other crimes, then too bad. Don't want the possibility of going to some far off prison? You could always self deport!

Screw 60 minutes. They are part of the left propaganda machine and lied to the United States public for the last 10 years about President Donald J Trump. Screw them. I hope they burn in hell. Seriously not one of them has any intellectual honesty. They can go F themselves.

GenericAggie said:

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Screw 60 minutes. They are part of the left propaganda machine and lied to the United States public for the last 10 years about President Donald J Trump. Screw them. I hope they burn in hell. Seriously not one of them has any intellectual honesty. They can go F themselves.

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Their treatment of Obama, Hillary, Kamala, but most especially Biden is the most bald faced propaganda ever conceived.

Decay said:

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GenericAggie said:

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Screw 60 minutes. They are part of the left propaganda machine and lied to the United States public for the last 10 years about President Donald J Trump. Screw them. I hope they burn in hell. Seriously not one of them has any intellectual honesty. They can go F themselves.

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Their treatment of Obama, Hillary, Kamala, but most especially Biden is the most bald faced propaganda ever conceived.

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Yes, and it's comical they think they have a "reputation" to uphold. Their reputation is that of a leftists propaganda machine. They have zero interest in truth.

I actually disagree. I think their 'science' coverage far outstrips their comparative 'political' coverage over the years/decades, on the propaganda scale.

I won‘t hold my breath for the CBS News report acknowledging such a dire prediction has not come to fruition. https://t.co/e1JYN8M47I

— Ron DeSantis (@RonDeSantis) December 27, 2025