ABATTBQ11 said:

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CDUB98 said:

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mandating a bio blend that is not road legal.

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How is it not road legal?

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Most/All diesel truck/car companies will say you are at risk of voiding your warranty if you use a biodiesel blend above 20% and have issues with the engine.

Portland, in their quest to reduce emissions, currently mandates diesel blends of 15% biodiesel.

However, in May, they are mandating a minimum biodiesel blend of 50%. In theory, you could do something like: 50% diesel, 30% renewable diesel, 20% biodiesel, but that's an operational nightmare. Or you could do 50%diesel/50% renewable diesel, but again, a bit of an operational mess to align a terminal that way.

So the simplest option is just to move to a fully renewable diesel product.

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Just because it might void your warranty doesn't mean it isn't legal

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Fair...it could be offered. Nobody would buy it. So technically legal, but there's nobody who would actually sell it at a station.

Oregon also doesn't have a single refinery.

Californians deserve everything they've voted for. Nothing that happens there saddens me anymore.

KentK93 said:

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This will impact more than just CA. Arizona gets a lot of their gasoline & diesel from CA.

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Refineries are fleeing the Golden State as regulations drive operating costs 26 to 37% higher than the national average. Chevron moved its operations from the Bay Area to Texas, while Phillips 66 powered down its 140,000-barrel-per-day Los Angeles refinery in October.
Ariza warned that as refineries go dark, more Californians will also skip town, noting that the oil and gas industry supports 536,770 jobs and pumps $338 billion into the state's economy, the outlet reported.
He said Valero's accelerated shutdown comes after the company scrapped its crude oil contracts back in October.

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https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/02/09/california-has-become-uninvestable-n3811709

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Didn't the regulations/ laws in California completely screw up a very expensive pipeline they had? They weren't pumping enough oil through pipelines to keep them from gumming up and clogging up and hardening or something like that? I saw a video of some oil man talking about how they would completely lose this huge expensive pipeline and wouldn't be able to clean it out if they didn't increase production and flow, but the DEMs had so many new rules, laws, and regulations in place trying to push their green energy agenda that they couldn't bring the production and flow of oil back up...

Ramdiesel said:

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KentK93 said:

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This will impact more than just CA. Arizona gets a lot of their gasoline & diesel from CA.

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Refineries are fleeing the Golden State as regulations drive operating costs 26 to 37% higher than the national average. Chevron moved its operations from the Bay Area to Texas, while Phillips 66 powered down its 140,000-barrel-per-day Los Angeles refinery in October.
Ariza warned that as refineries go dark, more Californians will also skip town, noting that the oil and gas industry supports 536,770 jobs and pumps $338 billion into the state's economy, the outlet reported.
He said Valero's accelerated shutdown comes after the company scrapped its crude oil contracts back in October.

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https://hotair.com/david-strom/2026/02/09/california-has-become-uninvestable-n3811709

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Didn't the regulations/ laws in California completely screw up a very expensive pipeline they had? They weren't pumping enough oil through pipelines to keep them from gumming up and clogging up and hardening or something like that? I saw a video of some oil man talking about how they would completely lose this huge expensive pipeline and wouldn't be able to clean it out if they didn't increase production and flow, but the DEMs had so many new rules, laws, and regulations in place trying to push their green energy agenda that they couldn't bring the production and flow of oil back up...

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I don't know but wouldn't be surprised. CA is stage one thinker and doesn't think about 2nd & 3rd order affects.

A massive fire erupting at Chevron refinery in El Segundo, California is the consequence of the Democrat's disastrous progressive policies. I am originally from Fremont, California, and I have noticed the continuing decline of California. I moved to Texas in August 2013, and I have stayed in Texas, even after graduating from Texas A&M in May 2017. My parents encouraged me to move to Texas because they knew that if I had stayed in California, I would be paying a higher cost of living for a lower quality of life. I still visit my parents 2 or 3 times per year.