Trump administration to add $100,000 fee for H-1B visas

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deddog
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THIS is the way.
Don't cancel H1Bs. If you really think someone is worth it, then 100K is a bargain.

I think this is great solution.
infinity ag
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deddog said:

THIS is the way.
Don't cancel H1Bs. If you really think someone is worth it, then 100K is a bargain.


I agree.

You know and I know, most H1Bs are worthless. But the problem is not just H1B, it is far more widespread. Let's see how it pans out.
infinity ag
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This is great news for my son who is in the job market for Computer Science as he is close to graduating with a Bachelors. Top 5 US school and he is struggling. WTF? And they hire Accenture instead killing the new grad hiring?

YES!
Stone Choir
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Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew and it gets raised the more you have. So if you have one it's $100k every time. For 2 it goes up to $200k for each. Every time you add another, the cost gets raised another $100k for each one.

It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances.
tysker
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infinity ag said:

This is great news for my son who is in the job market for Computer Science as he is close to graduating with a Bachelors. Top 5 US school and he is struggling. WTF? And they hire Accenture instead killing the new grad hiring?

YES!

Maybe he should have learned how to use a welding torch or hammer instead of spending over $100k to learn how to code. Sucks that his skills are already obsolete. I hope for your sake that he doesn't become the CEO of his own company.
Rex Racer
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Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew. It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances only.

Which it was when he was hired 15 years ago. Like I said, times have changed.
Stone Choir
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Rex Racer said:

Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew. It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances only.

Which it was when he was hired 15 years ago. Like I said, times have changed.


The number should go up by $100k for each one every time you hire another. 1 is $100k each, 2 is $200k each, 3 is $300k each. This would be per H1-B, not total. For 2 it would be $400k total, 3 $900k total. It should be punitive and harsh.
tysker
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I wouldn't be surprised if there winds up being a carve-out or tax exception that allows employers to deduct the increase in labor cost.
infinity ag
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Kumar! Gayatri! Prashant!

Pack your bags.

Use your "skills" back in India.
infinity ag
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tysker said:

infinity ag said:

This is great news for my son who is in the job market for Computer Science as he is close to graduating with a Bachelors. Top 5 US school and he is struggling. WTF? And they hire Accenture instead killing the new grad hiring?

YES!

Maybe he should have learned how to use a welding torch or hammer instead of spending over $100k to learn how to code. Sucks that his skills are already obsolete. I hope for your sake that he doesn't become the CEO of his own company.


You don't understand, college is not to learn to code. It is to learn to solve problems. Coding is just one way. I have 2 grad degrees and one of them is from A&M. Another is a Top 3 school. I learned how to solve problems there which I apply to new problems.

Coding can be learned through Youtube for free,

I hope he becomes a CEO some day. But a good humane one. The type who thinks long term and not "greed is good". Not laying off people just to make a bonus. If my son does not turn out that way, I will have failed as a parent.
Rex Racer
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tysker said:

I wouldn't be surprised if there winds up being a carve-out or tax exception that allows employers to deduct the increase in labor cost.

They just need to make state universities exempt from the fee.
infinity ag
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Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew and it gets raised the more you have. So if you have one it's $100k every time. For 2 it goes up to $200k for each. Every time you add another, the cost gets raised another $100k for each one.

It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances.


Every time every year.

So when you see an H1B walking around, you will be sure that his company paid $100k for his ass to be there. Doesn't matter how many years. A 6 year H1B will cost $600k.

I am all for jacking it up for renewals.
tysker
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Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew. It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances only.

Which it was when he was hired 15 years ago. Like I said, times have changed.


The number should go up by $100k for each one every time you hire another. 1 is $100k each, 2 is $200k each, 3 is $300k each. This would be per H1-B, not total. For 2 it would be $400k total, 3 $900k total. It should be punitive and harsh.

To be clear, you agree with the proposal presented by Bernie Sanders, which actually doesn't go as far as this proposal by Marx Trump:
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-calls-on-colleagues-to-support-his-h-1b-amendment
Stone Choir
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tysker said:

Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew. It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances only.

Which it was when he was hired 15 years ago. Like I said, times have changed.


The number should go up by $100k for each one every time you hire another. 1 is $100k each, 2 is $200k each, 3 is $300k each. This would be per H1-B, not total. For 2 it would be $400k total, 3 $900k total. It should be punitive and harsh.

To be clear, you agree with the proposal presented by Bernie Sanders, which actually doesn't go as far as this proposal by Marx Trump:
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/prepared-remarks-sanders-calls-on-colleagues-to-support-his-h-1b-amendment


I see zero numbers posted here, just a lot of bull**** talk from a useless politician. What I want is for the entire VISA system to be blown apart and shutdown.

I'll settle for crushing companies that want to abuse the system and making it insanely prohibitively expensive to use them.

I don't care about the rights of foreigners, at all.
Stone Choir
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infinity ag said:

Stone Choir said:

Rex Racer said:

I hope this doesn't go for renewals. I have an H-1B that is my best employee. He's in the process of waiting for his green card, but since he's Indian, it will take years. If I have to replace him, I'm going to be very disappointed.



I hope it goes for every single time you apply or renew and it gets raised the more you have. So if you have one it's $100k every time. For 2 it goes up to $200k for each. Every time you add another, the cost gets raised another $100k for each one.

It should cost you an immense amount of money to hire one. They should be use for extraordinary circumstances.


Every time every year.

So when you see an H1B walking around, you will be sure that his company paid $100k for his ass to be there. Doesn't matter how many years. A 6 year H1B will cost $600k.

I am all for jacking it up for renewals.



I like this idea, make it go up every year and it doubles for each one you hire.
agcrock2005
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I might get my neighborhood back??? This is great news! Built a house in a very good school district in 2021 and the very next year nearly 90% of the buyers turned Indian ("cultural" as the builders have to say). They have been coming in for for 3 years. It's crazy. My kids brand new elementary school is over 75% indian. It's a **** show. I've heard this is very common throughout parts of Texas. I hope this does something to change that. I don't want my kids learning Hindi at school so they can understand their substitute teachers.
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Colonel Kurtz said:

Eliminate H1B entirely. It is a disaster for the American people
Ozzy Osbourne
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agcrock2005 said:

I might get my neighborhood back??? This is great news! Built a house in a very good school district in 2021 and the very next year nearly 90% of the buyers turned Indian ("cultural" as the builders have to say). They have been coming in for for 3 years. It's crazy. My kids brand new elementary school is over 75% indian. It's a **** show. I've heard this is very common throughout parts of Texas. I hope this does something to change that. I don't want my kids learning Hindi at school so they can understand their substitute teachers.


But he'll miss the annual Diwali party!
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I like the idea except the unintended consequence might be to make H1B visa holders indentured servants until they earn it back.

Would prefer a monthly fee the employer pays. I think that would incentivize them to train or hire an American if it's a perpetual cost
infinity ag
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Linkedin discussions on how to game the system. I hope Trump has thought about this.



infinity ag
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What are the legal hurdles to this new rule?

Can some woke "world citizen" judge sitting in Seattle shut it down?

Can Congress block it?

Anything else?
infinity ag
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Boo hoo. Trump killing "innovation".
Now he will cause India to become a soopah powah!

I think Trump is trolling by saying "companies will be happy.."

BigRobSA
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infinity ag said:



Bro you beat me to this!
I was just about to post.


You need to hire an H1B to post for you.....
Get Off My Lawn
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Whoop!!! I've advocated this several times on H1B topics. There's still a hole for state sponsored nefarious use, but the economic abuse gets chopped off at the knees!
Ramdiesel
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infinity ag said:

Boo hoo. Trump killing "innovation".
Now he will cause India to become a soopah powah!

I think Trump is trolling by saying "companies will be happy.."





Innovation? LMBO! I work in a department with 17 developers, 14 of which are Indians, they don't innovate crap. Too busy maintaining and upgrading the App we have for monthly scheduled releases. And, fixing their own screwups from previous releases because a lot of them barely speak English and live thousands of miles away, need training, and we don't have time.

What innovation? The only way my company can get new clients now has been to pay billions to acquire other smaller companies and move their clients onto our system. Not because of any awesome new products.
infinity ag
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BigRobSA said:

infinity ag said:



Bro you beat me to this!
I was just about to post.


You need to hire an H1B to post for you.....


Never!
I'll write an AI Agent to scan the news, and when it finds something relevant, to post them here.

Look ma no hands!
Gilligan
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Do it for call centers!
Stone Choir
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infinity ag said:

Linkedin discussions on how to game the system. I hope Trump has thought about this.






I hate these people so much.
infinity ag
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Poor Elon. Doesn't his tears tug at your heart??

How will the poor man eat??????????????????

Trump is such a heartless Boomer CEO Politician.


Stone Choir
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infinity ag said:

Boo hoo. Trump killing "innovation".
Now he will cause India to become a soopah powah!

I think Trump is trolling by saying "companies will be happy.."




We got along just fine prior to any Indians. In fact they have made everything demonstrably worse across the board. Absolutely everything is now worse thanks to them.

Send them all back.
infinity ag
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I am discussing this with a few of my Indian acquaintances. Their claim is that innovation will suffer, the US will suffer overall, tech "talent" will go to Canada, UK, China, Aus, India etc as they are unwelcome in the US.

I said they should be happy since this amazing tech talent can go back to India and create the next big Microsoft, Amazon, Google, OpenAI etc etc.

They didn't seem too thrilled though. Wonder why.
Stone Choir
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infinity ag said:

I am discussing this with a few of my Indian acquaintances. Their claim is that innovation will suffer, the US will suffer overall, tech "talent" will go to Canada, UK, China, Aus, India etc as they are unwelcome in the US.

I said they should be happy since this amazing tech talent can go back to India and create the next big Microsoft, Amazon, Google, OpenAI etc etc.

They didn't seem too thrilled though. Wonder why.


lol their reaction proves it is and always was a scam.
HalifaxAg
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uh....ya'll better hope this doesn't apply to medical doctors. This will create real problems for staffing hospitals and you can't just fill those holes with qualified people quickly.

I'm all for returning jobs to citizens but maybe we need to have a less bombastic plan?
Ozzy Osbourne
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Lutnick is 100% right. If we want Americans to do high tech or medical jobs, then we need to stop replacing them with immigrants. Those career paths need to be viable for Americans or the country is going to be reduced being to a trade outpost for the foreign geeks of the world.
Ozzy Osbourne
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HalifaxAg said:

uh....ya'll better hope this doesn't apply to medical doctors. This will create real problems for staffing hospitals and you can't just fill those holes with qualified people quickly.

I'm all for returning jobs to citizens but maybe we need to have a less bombastic plan?

Maybe we reduce the load on hospitals by deporting and MAHA. That seems like a better plan to me.
 
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