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I don't understand sometimes how we went from Ford increasing his employee pay so they could afford the product they made (allowing Ford to increase sales) and improve his workforce to offshore everything "for the shareholders" and then fewer people domestically can afford much of anything.

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Govt interference.

Always a big negative.

Yeah, it's a damn shame we can't make Americans work long hours without safety measures in place.

BBRex said:

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Yeah, it's a damn shame we can't make Americans work long hours without safety measures in place.

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How about freedom, and allow the worker to decide how long they want to work? Or you can try the other route, and make our companies less competitive, which is what we have now.


But I am sure more labor laws will work this time. LOL

Oh yeah. Let's go back to street riots and labor wars. Sounds great. And it will do more to get the Commies a foothold than Bernie, AOC and college professors combined.

Do want to send your kids to work at the Apple factory?

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Logos Stick said:

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There's a significant amount of hopium in this thread concerning the limitations of AI, imo.

Speaking as someone who is financially independent - more than enough money to retire at any tiime - I remain deeply concerned (sick to my stomach honestly) about the long-term outlook for younger generations. My apprehension isn't rooted in emotion, but in what I see as structural economic realities.

AI and robotics represent a paradigm shift in the labor market - one that is far more transformative than previous technological disruptions. Unlike past waves of automation, this change targets both cognitive and manual labor simultaneously, raising serious questions about the future of employment.

I'm relieved that I no longer have to rely on employment, as I'm increasingly uncertain whether the roles I'm qualified for will continue to exist in the evolving job market. Or they may exist, but there will be far fewer of them.

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I'm beginning to come around to your way of thinking on AI. Robotics advances paired with AI may render 90% of today's workforce unnecessary. It could happen within a couple of decades. Seems likely that UBI will become more than just Leftist fantasy.

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UBI will never happen in that world because the producers do not have to worry about the peasants revolting. In that world, the producers are protected by the robot military and police.

Superfluous people will just be allowed to perish.

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Oh yeah. Let's go back to street riots and labor wars. Sounds great. And it will do more to get the Commies a foothold than Bernie, AOC and college professors combined.

Do want to send your kids to work at the Apple factory?

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Lets try to stick with reality. LOL

We already have the riots, but I will take freedom to work or hire as I please.

My grandparents generation, and some of my dad's, went through some nasty union stuff working in coal mines. Without protections, you're going to go right back to that. And if you think we can't go communist here, you're not paying attention.

Another lengthy article on how AI is replacing jobs.

It's real, it's happening, and not a lie.

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/ai-entry-level-jobs-graduates-b224d624?st=e2wQdy&reflink=article_copyURL_share

YouBet said:

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Another lengthy article on how AI is replacing jobs.

It's real, it's happening, and not a lie.

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/ai-entry-level-jobs-graduates-b224d624?st=e2wQdy&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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We will use AI to replace American new grads in the US as ChatGPT can do it better, but will still hire 10000000 new grads in India or outsource to WITCH companies in India who will in turn hire 10000000 new grads.

Got it.

Pro tip: Join an Indian outsourcing company like Infosys, Tata, Wipro. They need more US citizens since American companies hate hiring Americans and love these foreign companies. So if you want a job, apply at these foreign companies who hire in the US.

YouBet said:

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Another lengthy article on how AI is replacing jobs.

It's real, it's happening, and not a lie.

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/ai-entry-level-jobs-graduates-b224d624?st=e2wQdy&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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Good article. It's starting to happen.

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While many bosses say they remain committed to entry-level workers and understand their value, the data is increasingly stark: The overall national unemployment rate is at about 4%, but for new college graduates, it was 6.6% over the past 12 months ending in May.

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Venture-capital firm SignalFire found that among the 15 largest tech companies by market capitalization, the share of entry-level hires relative to total new hires has fallen by 50% since 2019. Recent graduates accounted for just 7% of new hires in 2024, down from 11% in 2022.

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Your link paywalled me, this one worked for me:

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/ai-entry-level-jobs-graduates-b224d624?st=si3R7Z&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

A great graphic from that WSJ article that shows unemployment trend for younger people.

TLDR: workers in their late 20's and early 30's have a lower unemployment rate than those in their early to mid 20's, and the unemployment rate for young bachelor's and master's graduates has spiked recently compared to several years ago.

What specific jobs/roles are being replaced by AI?

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I can't imagine coming out of college into the workforce today. All these kids are going to be competing against AI. I'm glad I'm on the back hill slide of my career, and trying to figure out wtf to steer my kids towards before they hit college age. Terrified for them.

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You know.. AI cannot snake a drain, replace an air conditioner or run an electrical cable. All good jobs that pay the same or more than many "professional" careers.

We need to reduce some college degree pathways and increase (fund) STEM pathways at every major university.

We need to introduce a two year vo-tech programs at all community colleges.

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AI can't feed people or build things. Find a career that works with matter - you know, that stuff that has mass and takes up space. You can't take an AI drug, eat an AI sandwich, live in an AI house, wear an AI shirt, or travel to an AI vacation...you get the idea.

AI can't feed people or build things yet.

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Gen Z is struggling to break into the entry-level job marketbut young male college graduates may be hurting the most.

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Drank the Kool-aid that paying your dues being nagged and feminized for 16-years would lead to a job.

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A great graphic from that WSJ article that shows unemployment trend for younger people.

TLDR: workers in their late 20's and early 30's have a lower unemployment rate than those in their early to mid 20's, and the unemployment rate for young bachelor's and master's graduates has spiked recently compared to several years ago.

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I'm surprised. Those numbers don't actually look that bad.

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You can't take an AI drug

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AI is already in the medical space doing a lot of the research tasks, expect it to take over more of the process as time goes on

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eat an AI sandwich

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This will be the easiest of all the tasks. Just go to a kiosk where ingredients have been fed to the machine, it will handle the rest

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live in an AI house, wear an AI shirt, or travel to an AI vacation

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AI will handle the need to go anywhere, you tell it what you really want, it will make whatever you want your surroundings to be appear to be right around you through your AI glasses. No real need even for pants.

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You can't take an AI drug

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AI is already in the medical space doing a lot of the research tasks, expect it to take over more of the process as time goes on

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eat an AI sandwich

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This will be the easiest of all the tasks. Just go to a kiosk where ingredients have been fed to the machine, it will handle the rest

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live in an AI house, wear an AI shirt, or travel to an AI vacation

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AI will handle the need to go anywhere, you tell it what you really want, it will make whatever you want your surroundings to be appear to be right around you through your AI glasses. No real need even for pants.

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Totally missing the point. Totally. Jobs that make electrons move will be far more readily done by computers. You can power your home with electrons. You can't build it with them. You can drive your car with electrons. You can't build it from electrons. You can trade stocks with electrons, but you can't build a brick and mortar company with them. The world will always be material. We may switch to all manner of alternative energy, but we will still need chemicals (matter, food, homes, shampoo...).

That is only partially true. Even those "materials" jobs are not immune. Processes will change across the board as AI will change what those industries look like, too. Even software engineering is not going to go away, either, it is just changing what is important to be able to do. The thing AI still cannot do is come up with totally new ideas... to take advantage of new opportunities and supply new needs. There is no industry that won't be affected, but all industries are going to look different and there will be new opportunities in every industry because of it.

It is going to be less and less important what industry someone is in and more and more important how adaptable that person is to rapid change

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That is only partially true. Even those "materials" jobs are not immune. Processes will change across the board as AI will change what those industries look like, too. Even software engineering is not going to go away, either, it is just changing what is important to be able to do. The thing AI still cannot do is come up with totally new ideas... to take advantage of new opportunities and supply new needs. There is no industry that won't be affected, but all industries are going to look different and there will be new opportunities in every industry because of it.

It is going to be less and less important what industry someone is in and more and more important how adaptable that person is to rapid change

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You are describing a tool. They aren't new. They had them pre-Clovis.

But it is interesting to think about what happened to Enron, and why it disappeared so fast. They didn't sell a material product. They traded electrons. They were the fore-runner of we'll see with AI businesses, how rapidly they will rise and fall, because of their ability to manipulate non-material things (like ideas, currency, energy, entertainment, speech).

Can AI make babies?
If it can, then we won't need women. Some people use robots to satisfy their "needs". The only thing a robot can't do is make human babies, so maybe at some point they could so who would want to deal with womanly nonsense and hormonal bs anymore? Just buy an AI woman, bang her, make AI babies and be happy.

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The only thing a robot can't do is make human babies,....

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Yet

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YouBet said:

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Another lengthy article on how AI is replacing jobs.

It's real, it's happening, and not a lie.

https://www.wsj.com/lifestyle/careers/ai-entry-level-jobs-graduates-b224d624?st=e2wQdy&reflink=article_copyURL_share

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We will use AI to replace American new grads in the US as ChatGPT can do it better, but will still hire 10000000 new grads in India or outsource to WITCH companies in India who will in turn hire 10000000 new grads.

Got it.

Pro tip: Join an Indian outsourcing company like Infosys, Tata, Wipro. They need more US citizens since American companies hate hiring Americans and love these foreign companies. So if you want a job, apply at these foreign companies who hire in the US.

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Both can be true. This isn't a zero sum game where all jobs are being taken by Indians or AI.

I share your disdain for outsourcing but your extreme hatred and bias for CEO's and outsourcing is overruling your common sense.