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Now you have me wanting to put some peanuts in a bottled coke like my grandfather did

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LOL. You never did that? Just watched your grandfather?

Soft drinks, when we got them, usually at grandparent's house far more often than at home, tasted better back when I was a kid. All of the Ne-Hi drinks, grape, strawberry, orange. I liked cream sodas a lot. Made great vanilla floats with ice cream. So did Big Red.

One other thing my grandmother did during summers, Cut a lemon in half and stick a straight peppermint stick into the middle. You would suck the lemon juice through the peppermint, moving the stick around as it slowly disintegrated from inside and out. Tart, tempered with sugar and mint. Refreshing on a hot day.

Like eating big slices of chilled watermelon having seed spitting contests were strictly outside in the shade activities. One year, I remember my grandfather complaining about having to pull up and move watermelon vines from the back yard under that huge magnolia that had the white metal table under it. LOL. We apparently had spit out too many seeds the summer before.

DannyDuberstein said:

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Believe what you want. They've done it over and over. You may be able to tell. Many can't. And I'd lay good money that the group that can't tell/prefers the other really grows when the only difference is the nuance of processed sugar vs processed hfcs.

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So Pepsi says. I remember the commercials then. Everybody knew they were BS.

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Believe what you want. They've done it over and over. You may be able to tell. Many can't. And I'd lay good money that the group that can't tell/prefers the other really grows when the only difference is the nuance of processed sugar vs processed hfcs.

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So Pepsi says. I remember the commercials then. Everybody knew they were BS.

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Coke literally changed the formula to New Coke which tasted more like Pepsi because of the studies. They were losing share and blind taste tests kept showing people preferred Pepsi. People preferred Pepsi in the blind tests because it tasted sweeter, and New Coke was an attempt to make Coke sweeter tasting.

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Teslag said:

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Now you have me wanting to put some peanuts in a bottled coke like my grandfather did

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LOL. You never did that? Just watched your grandfather?

Soft drinks, when we got them, usually at grandparent's house far more often than at home, tasted better back when I was a kid. All of the Ne-Hi drinks, grape, strawberry, orange. I liked cream sodas a lot. Made great vanilla floats with ice cream. So did Big Red.

One other thing my grandmother did during summers, Cut a lemon in half and stick a straight peppermint stick into the middle. You would suck the lemon juice through the peppermint, moving the stick around as it slowly disintegrated from inside and out. Tart, tempered with sugar and mint. Refreshing on a hot day.

Like eating big slices of chilled watermelon having seed spitting contests were strictly outside in the shade activities. One year, I remember my grandfather complaining about having to pull up and move watermelon vines from the back yard under that huge magnolia that had the white metal table under it. LOL. We apparently had spit out too many seeds the summer before.

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They used to sell the lemon/cinnamon stick combos at the concession stands in high school during basketball games. I saw people enjoying them all the time, but I never tried one.

My favorite was always Dr. Pepper. I didn't get them often as a kid. It was 20 miles to town and so it wasn't like I could run down to the store when I wanted.

Speaking of floats, the absolute worst float I ever tried was one I made myself using kool-aid. At the time, I thought the idea sounded good, but the result was terrible.

DannyDuberstein said:

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cecil77 said:

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Believe what you want. They've done it over and over. You may be able to tell. Many can't. And I'd lay good money that the group that can't tell/prefers the other really grows when the only difference is the nuance of processed sugar vs processed hfcs.

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So Pepsi says. I remember the commercials then. Everybody knew they were BS.

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Coke literally changed the formula to New Coke which tasted more like Pepsi because of the studies. They were losing share and blind taste tests kept showing people preferred Pepsi. People preferred Pepsi in the blind tests because it tasted sweeter, and New Coke was an attempt to make Coke sweeter tasting.

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I was there. Go read the history. It's also 40 years ago. Pepsi used brilliant marketing to "prove" their point. Coke used New Coke to peove theirs and won big time. They knew the change sucked and knew they'd bring back Coke Classic. New Coke disappeared in months and "The Pepsi Challenge" was destroyed.

Ultimately, follow the money trail

aggiehawg said:

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Teslag said:

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Now you have me wanting to put some peanuts in a bottled coke like my grandfather did

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LOL. You never did that? Just watched your grandfather?

Soft drinks, when we got them, usually at grandparent's house far more often than at home, tasted better back when I was a kid. All of the Ne-Hi drinks, grape, strawberry, orange. I liked cream sodas a lot. Made great vanilla floats with ice cream. So did Big Red.

One other thing my grandmother did during summers, Cut a lemon in half and stick a straight peppermint stick into the middle. You would suck the lemon juice through the peppermint, moving the stick around as it slowly disintegrated from inside and out. Tart, tempered with sugar and mint. Refreshing on a hot day.

Like eating big slices of chilled watermelon having seed spitting contests were strictly outside in the shade activities. One year, I remember my grandfather complaining about having to pull up and move watermelon vines from the back yard under that huge magnolia that had the white metal table under it. LOL. We apparently had spit out too many seeds the summer before.

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I've never heard about the peppermint stick and lemon, but that sounds like one hell of a treat.

Thanks for sharing.

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Interesting. My gout doctor recently said that new studies show without a doubt high fructose corn syrup is worse for you than real sugar. Should I trust them or you

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"Real" is always better than artificial. That said, it is best to reduce sugar as much as possible. I LOVE SUGAR. But I am trying to my best to cut down. We cannot avoid sugar in today's world but we can make a dent in our intake.

Back in the A&M days, I never drank water, I used to drink A+ Cola. Every day. Very unhealthy but being young helps.

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Refined sugar isn't all that real either.

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True, but better than fake sugar.

I think "jaggery" ( unrefined cane sugar ) is probably the closest to being "real".

Coke has always had a better bite than Pepsi but, the 23 flavors of an ice cold Dr Pepper after shredding 10 acres on an 8n convertible in the hot west Texas sun just can't be beat. As diet sodas go, Diet Dr Pepper is the best...hands down. The others don't even come close.

I think there's a lot of truth to the previously stated comment of "Everything in moderation".

What I really miss is the Cokes in green glass returnable bottles. MUCH higher psi than now. You could really feel the burn. It's been 25 years, but last time I was in Dublin (they still had DP then) they were still using the old machine and old bottles for the bottles sold on premises. I'd have killed for a Coke made that way.

BTW, in the 60s and 702 we pretty much ate as much of whatever we wanted. I don't think "processing" is the difference, IMO it's portion size. First time I saw a 12oz can of Coke (6 or 10 oz bottles prior) it looked huge. Now I fill a 32 oz Yeti style at the fountain and think nothing of it. It does last all day.

Dom Deluise was considered really fat back then. Today he'd scarcely be noticeable.

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BTW, in the 60s and 702 we pretty much ate as much of whatever we wanted. I don't think "processing" is the difference, IMO it's portion size.

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We could eat as much as we wanted because if we were awake, we were in constant motion. Burned more calories because we were all very active back then.

I love Mexican grapefruit soda or guava soda

They may not be fat, and appear clean (black and white photos help with that), but the stench of Hippie Communist flows from that pic like a fart in a crowded elevator.

But so many denim jackets! I love it

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Trump talks Coke into using real sugar

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Certainly a tougher sell than talking sugar into using real coke.

DannyDuberstein said:

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Same amount of calories. Both metabolize the same way and break down into approx 50/50 fructose and glucose. Feel free to look this up; widely available. Your doc is selling junk science. Yes, fructose can cause gout issues, but they both end up about the same amount of fructose. Just because one doesn't have fructose in the name doesn't make it better

If your gout doc wanted to do you a favor, he should be telling you to make sure you consume less of both vs having you think it's more acceptable to down real sugar.

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Hfcs
Causes more inflammation

Now, is there going to be a need to specify if the sugar comes from refining sugar cane or from beets. Lots of beet sugar out there!

"Soft drinks, when we got them, usually at grandparent's house far more often than at home, tasted better back when I was a kid. All of the Ne-Hi drinks, grape, strawberry, orange. I liked cream sodas a lot. Made great vanilla floats with ice cream. So did Big Red."

That is scary how accurately you just described my childhood. I remember visiting my grandparents and opening their garage fridge and they had Ne-Hi/Fanta drinks, RC Cola, several kinds of root beer, Big Red, Sprite and 7-up, and every kind of Coke, Pepsi, and Dr Pepper on the market. I recall the grape soda and orange soda tasting so darn good! This was all pre-2000 so I wonder if those were all made with sugar? I stopped consuming soda other than a few a year after 2000 due to the way it made me feel. Anyway, thanks for the story it brought back fond memories.

I think by 2000 it was well into HFCS. As I mentioned above, the biggest change, which most of you are too young to have experienced, was the transition from the green glass returnable bottles to disposable. The decreased the carbonation pressure by almost half. A Coke used to burn going down,

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DannyDuberstein said:

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Same amount of calories. Both metabolize the same way and break down into approx 50/50 fructose and glucose. Feel free to look this up; widely available. Your doc is selling junk science. Yes, fructose can cause gout issues, but they both end up about the same amount of fructose. Just because one doesn't have fructose in the name doesn't make it better

If your gout doc wanted to do you a favor, he should be telling you to make sure you consume less of both vs having you think it's more acceptable to down real sugar.

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Hfcs
Causes more inflammation

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Not conclusive as studies have varied on this - some show slight, others show no difference. I'd take that to conclude that if it does, it's only slight at most - the kind of slight that one item which is 55% fructose (hfcs) might cause slightly more than an item that is 50% fructose (refined sugar). They both cause inflammation and are best avoided beyond small quantities

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"Soft drinks, when we got them, usually at grandparent's house far more often than at home, tasted better back when I was a kid. All of the Ne-Hi drinks, grape, strawberry, orange. I liked cream sodas a lot. Made great vanilla floats with ice cream. So did Big Red."

That is scary how accurately you just described my childhood. I remember visiting my grandparents and opening their garage fridge and they had Ne-Hi/Fanta drinks, RC Cola, several kinds of root beer, Big Red, Sprite and 7-up, and every kind of Coke, Pepsi, and Dr Pepper on the market. I recall the grape soda and orange soda tasting so darn good! This was all pre-2000 so I wonder if those were all made with sugar? I stopped consuming soda other than a few a year after 2000 due to the way it made me feel. Anyway, thanks for the story it brought back fond memories.

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Mt grandfather was particularly fond of mixing Sir Robert Burnettes White Satin Gin with Fresca. So we always had Fresca in the fridge. And when my aunt visited, A case of Tab. She was addicted to Tab. Personally, I hated Tab.

MAHA by drinking 72 ounce sodas with "real sugar!"

Drink up folks! Novo Nordisk is watching eagerly.

https://seekingalpha.com/pr/20172978-coca-cola-confirms-a-cane-sugar-version-of-its-trademark-cola-is-coming-to-the-us

Yeah I also love it. But I think denim vest looks more better special during riding a motorcycle!

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BTW, in the 60s and 702 we pretty much ate as much of whatever we wanted. I don't think "processing" is the difference, IMO it's portion size.

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We could eat as much as we wanted because if we were awake, we were in constant motion. Burned more calories because we were all very active back then.

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Very possible people were thinner because people were smoking ,

smoking is bad for you but so is the 500 calorie extra large soda that most people replaced it with
now people drink a large soda or an afternoon coffee flavored calorie bomb instead of having an afternoon smoke break

Yep. People don't buy Mexican coke. E cause it is cheaper