We are not a serious nation

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Ag in Tiger Country
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So that Dubai weather manipulation catastrophe a year or so ago was complete bull*****
bmks270
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There actually is a company trying to spray stuff into the atmosphere to block the sun and stop climate change / global warming.

The UK seems to be funding some of these experiments as well.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-mysterious-startup-is-developing-a-new-form-of-solar-geoengineering/

https://www.dailyfetched.com/uk-govt-approves-new-plans-to-dim-the-sun-to-fight-runaway-climate-change/


https://www.stardust-initiative.com
samurai_science
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Queso1 said:

I don't know much about this person other than what the media portrays. However, I heard her on Tucker and she seemed well reasoned and intelligent. It was quite contrast to what I'm used to hearing about her.
She did a lot of good forcing ALL the House Reps to VOTE IN PERSON, back when Pelosi was running things. Pissed of the Democrats and the Republicans, thats why they cant stand her.

She made them come to the floor with every bill and vote instead of doing it through staff proxys.
DannyDuberstein
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MTG is a nut, but there are bigger, more dangerous, wealthy nuts out there talking about doing this crap. So may as well ban this nonsense
YokelRidesAgain
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CW Post tried to seed rain clouds out on the Caprock for his utopia c. 1900.

Unfortunately, it didn't work, and Post, TX is still not a utopia as of the the last time I checked.

Also, Grape Nuts suck.

Too bad MTG wasn't around back then or we could have given him the chair.
Gaw617
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Instead of this could we try to actually pass a budget???
Fightin_Aggie
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chjoak said:

You know there are states that have banned chem trails as well as a few other countries? There are also numerous patents for weather modification. MTG is a bit crazy at times but this bill has merit.

You also have Bill Gates and I think some wackos in the UK talking about "blocking out the sun" to fix climate change.
Bill gates is trying to genetically modify cows so they don't fart

To me weather modification is one step below genetically modifying cows to stop normal bodily functions on the evil villain list of things to do
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Serious Lee
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About a dozen states have introduced similar legislation. Golden boy Ron DeSantis has already banned this in Florida.

So. Many. Nutjobs.
BigRobSA
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Kansas Kid said:

Would Jewish space lasers still be allowed or would they be considered banned under her bill?
Jewish ones? Of course.

Mexican ones? No guey!
BigRobSA
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YokelRidesAgain said:

Also, Grape Nuts suck.
FobTies
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chjoak
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Fightin_Aggie said:

chjoak said:

You know there are states that have banned chem trails as well as a few other countries? There are also numerous patents for weather modification. MTG is a bit crazy at times but this bill has merit.

You also have Bill Gates and I think some wackos in the UK talking about "blocking out the sun" to fix climate change.
Bill gates is trying to genetically modify cows so they don't fart

To me weather modification is one step below genetically modifying cows to stop normal bodily functions on the evil villain list of things to do


He's doing soooo many evil things. I just focused on the weather part because of the thread.
El Gallo Blanco
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OP must hate Desantis and think he's a crazy idiot for signing a bill that bans geoengineering.

Actually, by his (sorry if incorrect pronoun) logic, Desantis is even nuttier than her because he was way out ahead of her on this.
Ghost of Andrew Eaton
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El Gallo Blanco said:

OP must hate Desantis and think he's a crazy idiot for signing a bill that bans geoengineering.

Actually, by his (sorry if incorrect pronoun) logic, Desantis is even nuttier than her because he was way out ahead of her on this.


Even the best can be incorrect about things. And as someone said earlier, you're giving her too much credit.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
AgDotCom
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Why TF is Ryan Hall, Yall throwing shade on that X thread over the Guadalupe disaster and criticism for "performative nonsense". His whole schtick is predicting or "advising" potential severe events and he didn't say jack **** about any unstable conditions in Texas on July 3 while my consumer level RadarScope app I pay about 6 bucks / year for had that info for me, the average guy next door.
Serious Lee
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you can show them article after article and it will just devolve into word games. its quite comical how so many are getting left behind in the zeitgeist for fear of being called names, only to hop on board a few years later when the party's in full swing.
Mulberrywildman
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With what's happened this past week, this is your biggest concern?

Troll baby troll…
TRM
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I'll admit that there is a bit of conspiracy theory to some of it, but the part about DeSantis's bill is the geoengineering aka climate engineering would outlaw some of the nutty carbon capture ideas/global warming experiments as well.
Yukon Cornelius
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https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47551

https://www.flsenate.gov/PublishedContent/Offices/2024-2026/President/Documents/Senate_Passes_Bill_To_Protect_Floridians_from_Geoengineering_and_Weather_Modification.pdf

Rainmaker is flying around spraying stuff. Is it connected to this weekends rains. I have no idea. But they are flying and spraying stuff.

Florida has banned geo engineering. It's also hard to believe that Congressional report has that much information but none of it has been done before…

Ag in Tiger Country
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

OP must hate Desantis and think he's a crazy idiot for signing a bill that bans geoengineering.

Actually, by his (sorry if incorrect pronoun) logic, Desantis is even nuttier than her because he was way out ahead of her on this.


Even the best can be incorrect about things. And as someone said earlier, you're giving her too much credit.


Hmmmmm, I guess this is all just BS nonsense according to THE intellectual & final authority on everything- in their classroom at least, but especially on this subject (although, to borrow a Norm MacDonald joke, the only qualifications a teacher must have is an education level greater than the grade they teach- LOL!); HOWEVER, the FACTUAL evidence of cloud seeding capable of serious weather manipulation with sometimes catastrophic, out-of-control results is as follows:

The first mainstream instance of unequivocal evidence of weather modification, albeit on a small scale, happened at the Summer Olympics when it was held in China (whereby China made a rain shower cloud disappear!!); the next was the Dubai flooding debacle DIRECTLY linked to cloud seeding with unintended & devastating outcomes; and now, here's this 'totally fake' company despite its documented operations of cloud seeding to encourage rainfall, INCLUDING IN TEXAS:

http://www.nawmc.org/

Yes, the North American Weather Modification Council is a real company/ conglomerate that has in fact conducted operations; if you actually look at their webpage, they even address recent TikTok conspiracy videos saying that they & other companies seeded areas, including Kerr County, on July 3rd!!!

So Mr. Ghost, if you're gonna ridicule Congresswoman Greene &/or Gov. DeSantis, make sure there isn't rebuttal evidence that makes YOU look not only uninformed & wrong, but it makes MTG look like the more intelligent one between the two of you (& that'd be crushing to your ego)!!
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Fightin_Aggie said:

chjoak said:

You know there are states that have banned chem trails as well as a few other countries? There are also numerous patents for weather modification. MTG is a bit crazy at times but this bill has merit.

You also have Bill Gates and I think some wackos in the UK talking about "blocking out the sun" to fix climate change.
Bill gates is trying to genetically modify cows so they don't fart

To me weather modification is one step below genetically modifying cows to stop normal bodily functions on the evil villain list of things to do
About those modified cows. Would that make my prime ribeyes taste better or worse?
ts5641
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torrid said:

Is she implying the rains in Kerr County were a government conspiracy?
Surely not.
bmks270
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If one of these cloud seeding events causes a catastrophic flood those behind it are never going to accept the blame.

And now the climate-phobes are coming out with plans to spray things to block the sun.

The clouds, the rain, the sun, this impacts everyone, and there is merit in regulating our outright outlawing such activities. Default to natural climate and environmental systems that humans have adapted to for millennia.
Sq 17
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Not a govt conspiracy but private players are possibly manipulating the weather
Pookers
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Imagine still believing geo engineering is just a conspiracy. They've been doing all sorts of **** to the environment/climate for almost 100 years now.
bmks270
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https://reflective.org

MISSION STATEMENT
Accelerating responsible sunlight reflection research
Sunlight reflection may be the only available option, alongside dramatic emissions reductions, adaptation, and rapid scaling of carbon removal, to rapidly limit many climate impacts over the coming decades. But we don't know nearly enough about it to make a scientifically-informed decision about potential deployment and we're not on a trajectory for rapid, legitimate decision making.
Reflective is a philanthropically-funded initiative to develop the necessary knowledge base and do the requisite technology research and development, urgently and responsibly.


……..

If you follow the money, most of this climate change phobia and 'solution' finding is funded by Silicon Valley billionaires.
El Gallo Blanco
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

El Gallo Blanco said:

OP must hate Desantis and think he's a crazy idiot for signing a bill that bans geoengineering.

Actually, by his (sorry if incorrect pronoun) logic, Desantis is even nuttier than her because he was way out ahead of her on this.


Even the best can be incorrect about things. And as someone said earlier, you're giving her too much credit.
I'm not giving her ANY credit. I am just saying others, who are way more intelligent than she is, with far better track records, are taking this serious. Especially as they hear about dumb left winged nations in Western Europe that are completely lost starting to dabble in weather manipulation/geoengineering.

But just for fun...what is Desantis incorrect about?
doubledog
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Dry ice (CO2) is used in seed clouding. Looks like someone believes CO2 is a dangerous gas.
El Gallo Blanco
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Serious Lee said:

you can show them article after article and it will just devolve into word games. its quite comical how so many are getting left behind in the zeitgeist for fear of being called names, only to hop on board a few years later when the party's in full swing.
Yep, almost a direct overlap with the crowd who believed the "wet market" lie and that "if you just get your vaccine, mine will magically activate and begin to work". Prob things George Floyd was a decent dude who was killed by a cop, rather than an insane amount of fentanyl.
BigRobSA
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El Gallo Blanco said:


But just for fun...what is Desantis incorrect about?


You mean "Ol' Pudding Fingers" !?
Cougar11
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Funny I didn't see this post during the Biden Administration
Hoyt Ag
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Yukon Cornelius said:

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47551

https://www.flsenate.gov/PublishedContent/Offices/2024-2026/President/Documents/Senate_Passes_Bill_To_Protect_Floridians_from_Geoengineering_and_Weather_Modification.pdf

Rainmaker is flying around spraying stuff. Is it connected to this weekends rains. I have no idea. But they are flying and spraying stuff.

Florida has banned geo engineering. It's also hard to believe that Congressional report has that much information but none of it has been done before…


They spray in Utah and I am pretty convinced it has affected our rainfall to the west of them in NW Colorado. We have been so freaking fry the years since their operations started.
BenFiasco14
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If it's not happening why is the ban an issue
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
BigRobSA
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Is this localized, meaning you have to "seed" , or whatever, in your locale to affect your locale? Or can you "seed" another locale if you know the direction of the tradewinds or whatever you want to call them and know they'll take your "seeding" to wherever you're aiming?
MouthBQ98
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For the love of all things sane…. Yes, you can cloud seed with find particulates at very specific targeted locations. You can get a little localized pop-up cloud.

What you can't do is cause the remnants of a tropical storm to move a massive amount of Pacific Ocean atmospheric moisture over west texas following the predominant weather patterns fro west to east and have it activated into training rain storms with a distinct rotation. Around a massive atmospheric low pressure that drifts across central texas. Do "they" (it's always they) have a gigantic jet stream machine and a fleet of thousands of cloud seeing aircraft we haven't seen? That what it would have taken.


Or maybe this is a pattern that you see in central Texas periodically in the summer when a dying pacific tropical system drifts across Mexico and into Texas at the right time of year in the hot summer sun, it's only happened dozens of times since record keeping started, resulting in occasional extreme rainfalls and flooding events in Texas. Virtually all of which occurs before cloud seeding existed. Or aircraft.

Let's be serious here. What are the odds a naturally occurring periodic random event naturally occurs, versus some titanic conspiracy that has of yet no hard evidence of occurring related to this specific weather event?

Our society is becoming obsessed with conspiracy. I don't mind the thought exercises or conjecture but at some point a level of sanity has to interject itself regarding plausibility. As in, is it technically possible to conduct at the necessary scale and remain completely hidden from direct observation?
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