Rumor Trump losing confidence in Tulsi for being off message

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91AggieLawyer said:

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Iran has had a nuclear program since the 50's, that actually expanded under the Shah. They've been pursuing nuclear power for a long time. Nuclear engineers don't learn how to make a bomb in engineering school - I know plenty of nuclear engineers (at least beyond theory). Iran actually is one of the most educated countries in the region, lots of engineers, PhDs, chemists, etc.

Nice attempt to deflect what I said, but I really wasn't talking about nuke engineers that primarily work on nuke power plants, nuke subs, etc. I also think you knew that and knew exactly what I was saying, even if I didn't use precise language. Name one Iranian nuclear engineer who wasn't working on a bomb program who the Israelis have knocked off.

What are the nuclear engineers in Iran working on if not weapons related projects? It sure isn't a civilian nuclear energy project. Their current energy costs make nuke power not feasible. That isn't the case with the US.

Iran isn't building a civilian nuclear program

As far as the historical Iran nuke programs, are any of the folks who were working in those programs and under the Shah still on the Iranian payroll?
I mean you said "There sure are a lot of nuclear engineers (or were) in a country that isn't pursuing a nuclear weapon. " How am I supposed to know you meant only individuals developing nuclear weapons? Especially as that is a contested point - given that our intelligence community has stated that they aren't pursuing a nuclear weapon.

Further, how am I, you, or anyone else supposed to know which nuclear engineers are working on a bomb program and which aren't? Not sure if you are serious when you're asking me that question.

You also point out that there are a lot of nuclear engineers and scientists in Iran, but can you give me a number of how many there are? How many is too many for a country of almost 100 million people? Mexico has the same number of nuclear power plants as Iran, but a cursory search shows they have 7 universities that offer both under grad and graduate level nuclear engineering programs.

And again, not sure you can say they aren't working on nuclear energy, as they do have a nuclear plant. And just because they have massive oil and gas reserves doesn't mean they don't want to diversify. Many cities in Iran have the worst pollution in the world. Nuclear energy is clean energy. Why wouldn't they want clean energy? Regarding cost, most nuclear plants world wide are heavily subsidized by governments - especially the upfront cost of construction.

Also, you posted from the Jewish News Syndicate. Unless you are going to believe everything posted by Al Jazeera, or PressTV, I'm going to decline on taking it at face value.
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Trump says DNI Gabbard 'wrong' on Iran nuclear threat



President Donald Trump said Friday that his Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, is wrong about Iran's nuclear threat.
Asked what intelligence supports his claim that Iran is close to building a nuclear weapon, Trump told reporters: "Well, then my intelligence community is wrong. But when the intelligence community said that, your Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, she's wrong."
Trump repeated his belief that Iran is nearing nuclear capability, saying, "I think within a matter of weeks, or certainly within a matter of months, they were going to be able to have a nuclear weapon."
Trump's remarks show a clear split with his intelligence leadership as has long said stopping Iran from getting a nuclear weapon is a top priority.
The comments come as tensions with Iran continue and Israel steps up military action against Iranian targets.
Gabbard, a former congresswoman from Hawaii, has served as DNI during Trump's second term after leaving the Democrat party.
https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/israel-iran-conflict-june-20-2025
Old McDonald
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so the real question is who is telling trump our intelligence is wrong, and what intelligence are they leaning on instead?
Im Gipper
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For starters, the reporter asking the question lied. The Gabbard testimony was from March: not "this point".

Full statement from March here:


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flown-the-coop
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Old McDonald said:

so the real question is who is telling trump our intelligence is wrong, and what intelligence are they leaning on instead?


The real question is where you get your "news" from.

Trump is extremely intelligent, capable, restrained, and wants what is best for America, including you.

The other question is why you are so hell bent on hating him…
Jeeper79
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She's sympathetic to Russia and appaoRussia's friends. Shouldn't really surprise anyone.
AggieVictor10
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Tulsi
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
flown-the-coop
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Fake news. Aka… trolling.
Rockdoc
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Jeeper79 said:

She's sympathetic to Russia and appaoRussia's friends. Shouldn't really surprise anyone.

lol the dem talking points. Never gets old.
flown-the-coop
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Rockdoc said:

Jeeper79 said:

She's sympathetic to Russia and appaoRussia's friends. Shouldn't really surprise anyone.

lol the dem talking points. Never gets old.


It's amazing ain't it.

Trump and Putin are brothers from prior life sent here by the Church of Scientology to restore the world and unleash the Vulcan alien dwellers.

Quite literally the current thinking of MSM, the libs and CMs and such.
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HDeathstar said:

Literally a democrat.


The way Lyndon LaRouche was a Democrat (yes he was the nominee for the party in an Illinois gubernatorial election).
Cougar11
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Jeeper79 said:

She's sympathetic to Russia and appaoRussia's friends. Shouldn't really surprise anyone.
do you have proof?
Im Gipper
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Loser comic turned clown is REALLY having a rough week.

He decided he's an expert on the Middle East, but just routinely makes an ass of himself.

People take this guy seriously. That's what the world has become.




INPEEEEEEECHHHH!!!! Lock up these criminals!!!

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Who?mikejones!
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I dunno Dave. Maybe she knows more than you
Im Gipper
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He is one of those people now that think having an opinion without knowledge is admirable.

She literally talked about how much uranium Iran had back in March!! Maybe he should stick with "the worst possible result occurred in WWII" and other hot takes for the goober crowd.

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