Minnesota state Congress members shot at home

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American Hardwood
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In reply to YokelRidesAgain • 4:01p, 6/15/25
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American Hardwood said:
We have zero evidence that his motives in the killing had anything to do with abortion.
Zero evidence? It has been widely reported in the press that the shooter left a "manifesto" in his car expressing opposition to abortion; a list of targets including Democratic lawmakers, and a childhood friend confirmed his virulent opposition to abortion. This was cited by, among others, a US Senator on Meet the Press this morning.

In what universe is that "zero evidence"? And if you believe that the above is somehow a liberal media conspiracy, why has none of it been refuted by law enforcement at any of the multitude of press conferences already held? Or are they in on the conspiracy, too?


Unless I missed something, the only information released about the manifesto was that it contained a list of names, no text about abortion. The abortion angle is a narrative unless you have more information.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 4:03p, 6/15/25
The list has names of Planned Parenthood people.
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4:06p, 6/15/25
This guy is married with 5 kids. He has multiple businesses and properties and sits on a business development board.

His roommate is a Papa John's delivery driver.
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4:07p, 6/15/25
and yes he's MAGA but choose to be on a board for Gov Walz, makes total sense.
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unimboti nkum
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4:09p, 6/15/25
Suspect didn't like Walz, Biden or Pelosi, but didn't express extreme views, roommate says


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"He didn't like Nancy Pelosi," he said, referring to the California congresswoman and former speaker of the U.S. House. "He didn't like [Minnesota Gov. Tim] Walz. He didn't like [former president Joe] Biden."

But his comments were ordinary complaints about politicians, and he didn't express extreme views, Carlson said. He said Boelter supported President Donald Trump and had voted for him. He said Boelter would be offended if someone called him a Democrat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/15/minnesota-lawmakers-shooting-suspect-vance-boelter/#link-I2QJQZRNRBG4FJ25VGDXDP5NKE
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In reply to unimboti nkum • 4:11p, 6/15/25
unimboti nkum said:
Suspect didn't like Walz, Biden or Pelosi, but didn't express extreme views, roommate says


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"He didn't like Nancy Pelosi," he said, referring to the California congresswoman and former speaker of the U.S. House. "He didn't like [Minnesota Gov. Tim] Walz. He didn't like [former president Joe] Biden."

But his comments were ordinary complaints about politicians, and he didn't express extreme views, Carlson said. He said Boelter supported President Donald Trump and had voted for him. He said Boelter would be offended if someone called him a Democrat.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2025/06/15/minnesota-lawmakers-shooting-suspect-vance-boelter/#link-I2QJQZRNRBG4FJ25VGDXDP5NKE


And you believe that? That guy is part of the conspiracy. Check out Breitbart or Alex Jones for real news.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:13p, 6/15/25
Okay. So you gonna make the jump that he isn't a democrat? There are such things as pro-life democrats. Hard to believe I know.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 4:20p, 6/15/25
I'm not making any jump. You asked if you missed anything about abortion. I pointed out something that was being reported.

The hit list, however, has been reported to be made up only of Democrats. Are we saying he's so strongly pro-Democrat that he set out to kill them just to make Republicans look bad?

If a guy killed Ted Cruz and Ron Desantis and had a list that contained only 70 other Republicans, what would be said on here?

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4:25p, 6/15/25
Funny these Dems need some kind, any kind of 'win'. If this psycho killer is proven to be MAGA there will be champagne corks a-flyin.

Prove me wrong.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:27p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
I'm not making any jump. You asked if you missed anything about abortion. I pointed out something that was being reported.

The hit list, however, has been reported to be made up only of Democrats. Are we saying he's so strongly pro-Democrat that he set out to kill them just to make Republicans look bad?

If a guy killed Ted Cruz and Ron Desantis and had a list that contained only 70 other Republicans, what would be said on here?

He killed a dem who sided with Republicans to strip handouts to illegals, that sounds like MAGA to you?
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In reply to Cougar11 • 4:28p, 6/15/25
And all the other Democrats on the list?
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:29p, 6/15/25
Fair enough, but I still think the available information is pretty thin to draw anything conclusive yet. Time will tell.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:30p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
And all the other Democrats on the list?


Decoys.
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In reply to American Hardwood • 4:30p, 6/15/25
I think it'll end up with both sides claiming he's playing for the other team. And he'll be found dead so we'll never know. Unless the family talks.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:31p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
And all the other Democrats on the list?
can you not answer the question would MAGA kill someone like in your opinion?.
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In reply to Cougar11 • 4:31p, 6/15/25
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So let me get this straight he killed politicians that voted against giving illegals handouts? Sounds MAGA to me.
For at least, I think, the fourth time on this thread the two legislators who were shot voted on opposite sides on the bill to strip illegal immigrants of state health care. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that this issue had anything to do with the shootings.
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In reply to Cougar11 • 4:33p, 6/15/25
I don't think he's MAGA necessarily. Maybe he's a Trump supporter. Maybe not. Probably doesn't even matter.

I think something happened (probably financially) and this guy went off the rails.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:36p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
I think it'll end up with both sides claiming he's playing for the other team. And he'll be found dead so we'll never know. Unless the family talks.


Probable scenario. It could bd that he's just a confused nut job with no real cohesive ideology. Let's look at the two primary arguments, he was allegedly pro-life and he was appointed by Walz. IF he was a leftist and pro-life, that could lead to a lot of internal angst. May e he just couldn't square his beliefs and finally broke.
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4:39p, 6/15/25
Yeah honestly we don't know what he is. It's just that something is not right here. We're missing something that maybe the authorities already know.
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4:41p, 6/15/25
I posted something similar yesterday, but I think he was likely a Democrat in the past who at some point became so disgusted with the Progressives in the party supporting abortion up until the time of birth that he either left the Democratic party and became an independent, or a Republican, and yes probably voted for Trump if the roommate can be believed. I don't think he is MAGA, but I do think he is a nut job and snapped. He apparently was targeting those in the party who were staunchly pro abortion.

This is just my gut feel on the situation and I have no evidence to back it up.
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In reply to Rockdoc • 4:43p, 6/15/25
Rockdoc said:
Yeah honestly we don't know what he is. It's just that something is not right here. We're missing something that maybe the authorities already know.

His best friend and roommate said who he is (a Trump supporter who would be offended to be called a democrat) but you don't like it.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 4:43p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
I'm not making any jump. You asked if you missed anything about abortion. I pointed out something that was being reported.

The hit list, however, has been reported to be made up only of Democrats. Are we saying he's so strongly pro-Democrat that he set out to kill them just to make Republicans look bad?

If a guy killed Ted Cruz and Ron Desantis and had a list that contained only 70 other Republicans, what would be said on here?



He he had been appointed to a committee by Abbot with dozens of others and had a roommate that said he disliked trump and votes for Kamala I'm sure this board would be consistent and say he was likely a conservative. It only makes sense.
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In reply to YokelRidesAgain • 4:46p, 6/15/25
YokelRidesAgain said:
Cougar11 said:
So let me get this straight he killed politicians that voted against giving illegals handouts? Sounds MAGA to me.
For at least, I think, the fourth time on this thread the two legislators who were shot voted on opposite sides on the bill to strip illegal immigrants of state health care. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that this issue had anything to do with the shootings.
point being? If he was ardent MAGA he wouldn't have even tried to kill the one who voted with repubs.
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In reply to unimboti nkum • 4:46p, 6/15/25
unimboti nkum said:
Rockdoc said:
Yeah honestly we don't know what he is. It's just that something is not right here. We're missing something that maybe the authorities already know.

His best friend and roommate said who he is (a Trump supporter who would be offended to be called a democrat) but you don't like it.

You would be wrong as usual. This crap doesn't bother me. But you'll have to admit he's acting like a democrat.
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In reply to Cougar11 • 4:54p, 6/15/25
Cougar11 said:
point being? If he was ardent MAGA he wouldn't have even tried to kill the one who voted with repubs.
Yes, I'm sure that while being a certified lunatic and planning a murder spree, dude spent every available minute making sure to memorize every single vote ever taken by a member of the Minnesota legislature to make sure that they never voted with a Republican on anything before shooting them.
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4:55p, 6/15/25
This guy gets it....

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In reply to unimboti nkum • 4:58p, 6/15/25
unimboti nkum said:
Rockdoc said:
Yeah honestly we don't know what he is. It's just that something is not right here. We're missing something that maybe the authorities already know.

His best friend and roommate said who he is (a Trump supporter who would be offended to be called a democrat) but you don't like it.


Yeah, pardon me if I don't put much stock in the word of a "best friend".
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4:59p, 6/15/25
I thought i read earlier in minnesota local news that it wasn't really a manifesto but a list of names. Some were pro abortion some werent.
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5:05p, 6/15/25
So to sum up:

Manifesto - Not a manifesto, Dems won't let us see it but want us to take their word what's in it

He voted Trump - Some random Dem friend they want us to take his word for

No Kings Flyers - Actually exist, we've seen them and the Dem explanation is a tortured mental gymnastics about how he would use them to attack rallies when you don't need flyers to attack a rally
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5:07p, 6/15/25
Have they posted any video of this alleged killer at the houses? And without a mask....
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In reply to Maroon Dawn • 5:09p, 6/15/25
Maroon Dawn said:
So to sum up:

Manifesto - Not a manifesto, Dems won't let us see it but want us to take their word what's in it

He voted Trump - Some random Dem friend they want us to take his word for

No Kings Flyers - Actually exist, we've seen them and the Dem explanation is a tortured mental gymnastics about how he would use them to attack rallies when you don't need flyers to attack a rally


Police won't release the manifesto because it's really a list of targets and the shooter is still out there.

Random friend is a guy who's known Boelter for like 40 years, since 4th grade, and lived with him part time.

Fliers? I don't know about that one.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 5:15p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
Fliers? I don't know about that one.
Dude has been repeating ad nauseam that having a bunch of pieces of paper with NO KINGS on them in his car absolutely proves that this guy was a nefarious Democrat!

What he thinks these fliers "prove" has not been answered despite several inquiries, nor why they are more convincing that a hit list with the names of Democrat legislators and abortion clinics on it.
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In reply to Horn_in_Aggieland • 5:19p, 6/15/25
Horn_in_Aggieland said:
Maroon Dawn said:
So to sum up:

Manifesto - Not a manifesto, Dems won't let us see it but want us to take their word what's in it

He voted Trump - Some random Dem friend they want us to take his word for

No Kings Flyers - Actually exist, we've seen them and the Dem explanation is a tortured mental gymnastics about how he would use them to attack rallies when you don't need flyers to attack a rally


Police won't release the manifesto because it's really a list of targets and the shooter is still out there.


That makes zero sense. You think the guy has forgotten his targets?! You really think he is going to risk taking others out given they have an APB out on him?! LoL.


Eta, they can release it and redact info. That is a thing.
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5:23p, 6/15/25
I think he's the perfect suspect for the murders. That's why they chose him.

It's a warning to the rest of the politicians and judges that vote or go against things like this.
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5:26p, 6/15/25
haven't been following this with an actual war raging in the Middle East

is the shooter still at large?

and how is that possible.
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