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31 states where drivers face 'touch law' fines up to $450 if hands are in the wrong place and it applies at red lights

These so-called touch laws across the US prohibit drivers from holding or using electronic devices for activities like talking, texting, or browsing.

Indeed, even holding a device in a visible or conspicuous manner can result in a hefty penalty, as the rules apply regardless of whether the vehicle is moving or stationary due to traffic or a traffic signal.

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The states are

• Alabama, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Oregon, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia

Personally I use "hands free" mode for my cell phone, but I am not a contractor, delivery or uber driver. I have mixed feeling about these "no touch" laws, but it is good to know what states have them.


https://www.the-sun.com/motors/14333679/touch-law-fines-wrong-place/

When the light turns green, I want you to go. It's so frustrating when I have to honk at you to get your attention.

Hands off at red lights is dumb. It may be annoying to some but it doesn't endanger anyone

We found the guy that holds everyone up staring down at his phone while the light's green.

txaggie_08 said:

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We found the guy that holds everyone up staring down at his phone while the light's green.

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Nope. My car goes when the light is green whether I'm paying attention or not.

(and yes, I put my phone down then)

If there's video evidence of distracted driving, should be treated like a dui. Having been slammed into by a kid while I watched him in my rear view, 100% avoidable.

I now have dash cams which helped when I was hit by a drunk driver, he then sped off but my footage caught his license plates.

Confusing thread title. I thought this was a law that passengers could not touch the driver's face.

The best place for phone use is in the left lane enabling variable speed control that's generally 10-20 mph below the speed limit.

There needs to be some common sense to apply to a law like this but Texas needs this badly. Every single day I see people actively on their phones will going 70mph+ on the freeway.

txaggie_08 said:

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We found the guy that holds everyone up staring down at his phone while the light's green.

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Every. Single. Day.

AlaskanAg99 said:

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If there's video evidence of distracted driving, should be treated like a dui. Having been slammed into by a kid while I watched him in my rear view, 100% avoidable.

I now have dash cams which helped when I was hit by a drunk driver, he then sped off but my footage caught his license plates.

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It's every bit as dangerous as someone being drunk behind the wheel. It's a national and cultural scourge.

coming to a small town near you -hands off face traps

hands off face was to good a description not to use.

Ok. Now do playing on the massive touch screen these new cars and trucks are getting.

Then go back and to the giant binder if CDs in the back seat

The state of Texas has these laws but enforcement varies... (revised)

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Confusing thread title. I thought this was a law that passengers could not touch the driver's face.

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quote from the article.

bobbranco said:

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Cities and towns in Texas have these laws...

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It needs to be state wide or it confuses out of town drivers.

Interesting breakdown of the 31 states that have the ban:

Red States = 9 (29%)
Alabama, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee, West Virginia

Blue States: 22 (71%)
Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, Washington

Not sure how to interpret, do they 'care' more or do they just like 'controlling' more?

Will this get as many pages as the THC thread? Government overreach, you know. Charge them if it can be shown to have caused a wreck. What about the old lady with the 40 pound dog in her lap? How about the one with a 48oz tumbler in one hand yapping at her kids with her head turned looking at them? Those things will never be against the law. Why are they just singling out cell phones?

I'm tired of adding more laws. Just add recklessness or negligence charges when distracted driving is a factor in a traffic violation. Changing a song on Spotify or looking at a Waze isn't terrible different from tuning the radio or looking at a paper map - the fact that you're touching your phone doesn't make it an inherently worse action.

Imagine being the cop enforcing this.

"Yeah I stopped you because I saw you touched your phone".


This is the cell phone version of laws against selling "loosies" .

Why stop at the phone?

Radio, water bottle, passenger, or anything not directly connected to driving should fet the same treatment.

No need for additional laws, enforce the ones we have.

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Imagine being the cop enforcing this.

"Yeah I stopped you because I saw you touched your phone".


This is the cell phone version of laws against selling "loosies" .

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Sir do you know why I pulled you over?

No. But I spilled my beer all over the place.

This is one thing really like about a Tesla. I can wear sunglasses, it can't track my eyes, and I can browse the internet at full leisure while it drives.

Leave people alone, no more laws. Reckless driving is already illegal.

My daughter is in college now, but back when she was in middle school her best friend was killed by a driver who was texting. Absolutely devastating. She was in the backseat, traffic stopped, and the driver behind them was going 60+ miles an hour…never hit the brakes.

We were outraged when he only got 90 days in jail. I still think it should have been more time, but the judge spread it out over 9 years. He has to go to jail for 10 days each year on her birthday.

Martin Q. Blank said:

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Confusing thread title. I thought this was a law that passengers could not touch the driver's face.

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They can only touch the driver's face with a cell phone or iPad but not with a laptop.

The real key to this is insurance refusing to pay for the at fault party if they're charged with distracted driving. They pay out for the victims vehicle and damages but the at fault party is absolutely screwed and left without a vehicle/coverage.

Why phones and not other distractions, I think there has been a massive uptick in collisions with the advent of smart phones. That's the difference.

At the end of the day you're driving a vehicle that has the potential to cause mass damage and fatalities. Your #1 job is to drive. Everything else is secondary.

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txaggie_08 said:

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We found the guy that holds everyone up staring down at his phone while the light's green.

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Nope. My car goes when the light is green whether I'm paying attention or not.

(and yes, I put my phone down then)

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Aww BULL.

Teslag said:

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This is one thing really like about a Tesla. I can wear sunglasses, it can't track my eyes, and I can browse the internet at full leisure while it drives.

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This reminds me of the meme where the lady chases down a car of strangers just to announce that she's vegan. Nobody cares.

gigemags-99 said:

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My daughter is in college now, but back when she was in middle school her best friend was killed by a driver who was texting. Absolutely devastating. She was in the backseat, traffic stopped, and the driver behind them was going 60+ miles an hour…never hit the brakes.

We were outraged when he only got 90 days in jail. I still think it should have been more time, but the judge spread it out over 9 years. He has to go to jail for 10 days each year on her birthday.

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Should be 10 days around christmas/new years so he cannot see family and friends during two of the most enjoyed holidays of the year. And 20 years, not 9.

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Teslag said:

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This is one thing really like about a Tesla. I can wear sunglasses, it can't track my eyes, and I can browse the internet at full leisure while it drives.

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This reminds me of the meme where the lady chases down a car of strangers just to announce that she's vegan. Nobody cares.

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You cared enough to comment

My ex drove through some traffic barriers/cones and scraped up her expedition on one side. She admitted to doing it, but was a bit embarrassed to admit that she was shopping on a website on her phone at the time...

Frag said:

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Leave people alone, no more laws. Reckless driving is already illegal.

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This.

Good lord....govt always wants MORE power.

Teslag said:

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This is one thing really like about a Tesla. I can wear sunglasses, it can't track my eyes, and I can browse the internet at full leisure while it drives.

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You drive a Tesla?!?!



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