A.I. - How do we handle this?

17,426 Views | 210 Replies | Last: 5 mo ago by fasthorse05
No Spin Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sharpshooter said:

I say let AI be our politicians.


But how will billionaires and world leaders bribe, ahem, I mean, "donate" to AI?
Funky Winkerbean
How long do you want to ignore this user?
No Spin Ag said:

Sharpshooter said:

I say let AI be our politicians.


But how will billionaires and world leaders bribe, ahem, I mean, "donate" to AI?


Threaten to break them into bits.
slaughtr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Definitely Not A Cop said:

That's how blood testing already works at a lot of places now, right?
Mostly only outpatient blood tests though. And each blood test is not "Read" by a doctor. There has to be a lab director license in the state the lab is in. For a physician to sign out a image, like an xray or MRI, they have to be license in the state the image comes from.
Definitely Not A Cop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sounds complicated enough that you could employ a company charging lots of money to jump through all the BS regulation hoops for you nationwide.
No Spin Ag
How long do you want to ignore this user?
riverrataggie said:

I don't mind a doctor using AI to verify what they are saying or speed things up if you will. But a doctor who thinks they will be replaced by AI isn't performing the duties of a doctor that I want in the first place.


Or they're overworked and because of that, make mistakes that AI can't because it doesn't get tired, distracted, or anything else that caused humans, even doctors, to error.

The reality is AI is going to do to every industry what robotics and China did to the auto industry in the 70s and 80s.

Those close to retirement, or already retired, don't have to worry, but to anyone under 45, and especially under 35, good luck.
AgGrad99
How long do you want to ignore this user?

Quote:

Or they're overworked and because of that, make mistakes that AI can't because it doesn't get tired, distracted, or anything else that caused humans, even doctors, to error.
maybe at a some point, but Ai is filled with mistakes at the moment.

That's going to be a tricky hurdle going forward. Because while it is incredible, it still gets it's data and programming from us...and we're fallible.
Aggie1944s Kid
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It's coming to the railroad. Last week one of the class 1 railroads posted a job opening for the position I work with part of the job description being "to remove human interface in operations"
A. G. Pennypacker
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'm within 3 years of retirement and probably will escape before much of an effect in my industry, but I do worry about my kids. My son is in finance industry. Probably big changes due to AI coming there. My daughter is in sales, so maybe less impact, but who knows.
AggieKatie2
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I've come to believe that the next great step will not be natural human evolution, but finding some way to put the human brain/soul into a mechanical body with a joining of AI.

It's really the only way at for mankind to expand and explore the universe.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
How long do you want to ignore this user?
learn to code is goijg to be replaced with learn a blue collar job like welding.
MouthBQ98
How long do you want to ignore this user?
You still need trained experts to sanity check AI work for a while and to interface with actual human beings, and to develop refinements. You for sure need to develop expertise in various disciplines to keep advancing the technology and innovating, so maybe you don't need many of the lower level of workers but you do need the higher level personnel in the field to keep development moving forwards.
slaughtr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Definitely Not A Cop said:

Sounds complicated enough that you could employ a company charging lots of money to jump through all the BS regulation hoops for you nationwide.

There's no jumping through hoops with State Physician licensure. States want to ensure anyone practicing medicine on their citizens is providing the best care.
Definitely Not A Cop
How long do you want to ignore this user?
slaughtr said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Sounds complicated enough that you could employ a company charging lots of money to jump through all the BS regulation hoops for you nationwide.

There's no jumping through hoops with State Physician licensure. States want to ensure anyone practicing medicine on their citizens is providing the best care.


You couldn't do something akin to insurance, where there is one Blue Cross Blue Shield, with each state having their own subsidiary of the main company?

Apologies for my ignorance.
slaughtr
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Definitely Not A Cop said:

slaughtr said:

Definitely Not A Cop said:

Sounds complicated enough that you could employ a company charging lots of money to jump through all the BS regulation hoops for you nationwide.

There's no jumping through hoops with State Physician licensure. States want to ensure anyone practicing medicine on their citizens is providing the best care.


You couldn't do something akin to insurance, where there is one Blue Cross Blue Shield, with each state having their own subsidiary of the main company?

Apologies for my ignorance.

Several States recently made a compact to make it easier to get licenses in other states that participate. But I'm sure you understand that what California might want to get a license could vary tremendously from what Texas wants. Plus it costs anywhere from $200 to $800 a year for each State license depending on the State. Not to mention different CME requirements etc. Texas is the only State I know of that requires you to pass a test on legal issues in medicine, for instance.
lb3
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GeorgiAg said:

It'll be worse. An AI lawyer. It isn't going to get rid of lawyers.
I think it will help pro se litigants quite a bit and eliminate a lot of paralegals.
Joes
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Robotics, AI (especially AGI, which is imminent) and quantum computing are going to change things more drastically than almost anyone can imagine, and very VERY soon.
one safe place
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Jeeper79 said:

McNasty said:

GeorgiAg said:

I would have to think long and hard now about spending all the time effort and money it takes to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.


Add pharmacist to that list. Seems like lobbying is the only reason they are still employed in large numbers.
Pharmacy visits are comically slow. If I've got 3 cars in front me, I know I'm in for at least a 30 minute wait to pick up meds that are already prepared. That whole industry is overdue for a shake up.
It takes a lot of time and analysis to open a bottle of 250 pills, count out 30, then count the 30 of them being put in a smaller bottle.
Cyprian
How long do you want to ignore this user?
This seems like another huge jump forward in technology, which will eventually have huge impact on our lives. It was computers, Internet, and now it looks like AI.

I think like the last 2 jumps forward, the job market will adjust to it with other opportunities.
MaroonStain
How long do you want to ignore this user?
What a doomer thread. We are all going to die. The end.
AgsMyDude
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

learn to code is goijg to be replaced with learn a blue collar job like welding.


Maybe but I work with AI coding assistants daily and they are, well, not that great at large, complex problems.

For now, it's pretty good at reducing repetitive mundane problems and giving ideas of how to do something but definitely nowhere near replacing people in these roles. Especially when you factor in business logic, etc.
Queso1
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Bruce Almighty said:

We'll either end up like this:



or like this





I used to look down on the Wall-E humans. But really, what could they do? What was their reason for being?
lead
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Seems like there was a computer assisted ultrasound when I had my second kid 14years ago. It identified the heartbeat and some other stuff. It was probably a trained algorithm rather than "AI".
aTm2004
How long do you want to ignore this user?
riverrataggie said:

I don't mind a doctor using AI to verify what they are saying or speed things up if you will. But a doctor who thinks they will be replaced by AI isn't performing the duties of a doctor that I want in the first place.
One of my son's friend's mom is an emergency physician, and we were talking about AI one day and she mentioned how she's using it. Essentially, she'd have to spend tons of time researching different articles and books to get an idea of what could be going on with a patient, but now she's able to use AI to wade through all of that so she knows the path to go down with her research before going back to the patient, ordering a tests, or getting a consult, which is huge for both her and the patient.
GeorgiAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Joes said:

Robotics, AI (especially AGI, which is imminent) and quantum computing are going to change things more drastically than almost anyone can imagine, and very VERY soon.
This is what I was trying to panic about. Thank you for wording it better. The last part is what is freaking me out the most. The growth is logarithmic. It would be another thing if it were a slow development that humans could plan for over a period of a decade or so. I think it will be much faster than that and we are not prepared for the impact.

I heard one guy compare it to the invention of electricity in terms of its impact.
BCO07
How long do you want to ignore this user?
yeah, its not as simple as the video makes it out to be. may for cut and dry stuff, but how will it deal with nuance? Specifically, I order an imaging study and it comes back not mentioning what I'm looking for. However when I look at the films myself, having the benefit of personally doing the physical exam, will know what I'm looking for and where. I can then have a conversation with the radiologist and discuss what I'm seeing on exam and question specific things on the films.
TarponChaser
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Malibu said:

Two theories:
1. Agriculture was 90% of employment in 1990. It is now 2%. Secretaries and word processing. Rinse and repeat. Displaced workers find new paths in a new economy.
2. This is very different. The robots are better than all of us at all our jobs. We tax the *censored on TexAgs* out of them for and have universal basic income and then figure out what the purpose of life is outside of working.

I'm not sure I buy that robots will ever be better than humans at purely creative tasks like filmmaking and creative writing. There's too much meatsack nuance that robots can't replicate.

How will AI negotiate something like a real estate transaction where human emotion is involved?
Cromagnum
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Sharpshooter said:

I say let AI be our politicians.


That's when it decides who is necessary and who is not.
87IE
How long do you want to ignore this user?
It will be interesting, at least to me, to see how the malpractice insurance is handled.

Will a hospital agree to outsource the reading of images without having someone responsible for errors?

Will insurance companies agree to cover AI reading images? How much will it cost.
Joes
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GeorgiAg said:

Joes said:

Robotics, AI (especially AGI, which is imminent) and quantum computing are going to change things more drastically than almost anyone can imagine, and very VERY soon.
This is what I was trying to panic about. Thank you for wording it better. The last part is what is freaking me out the most. The growth is logarithmic. It would be another thing if it were a slow development that humans could plan for over a period of a decade or so. I think it will be much faster than that and we are not prepared for the impact.

I heard one guy compare it to the invention of electricity in terms of its impact.
Anything could happen, but I'm not necessarily worried about the future, I'm just saying things will be much different, for better or worse. Probably some of each.
GeorgiAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
I'm really interested to see what all the influencers, actresses and OF hoes have to start doing now they are gonna have to compete with AI hoes.
GeorgiAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
87IE said:

It will be interesting, at least to me, to see how the malpractice insurance is handled.

Will a hospital agree to outsource the reading of images without having someone responsible for errors?

Will insurance companies agree to cover AI reading images? How much will it cost.
Fewer errors = fewer payouts on claims. Of course, insurance premiums will still go up.
GeorgiAg
How long do you want to ignore this user?
TarponChaser said:

Malibu said:

Two theories:
1. Agriculture was 90% of employment in 1990. It is now 2%. Secretaries and word processing. Rinse and repeat. Displaced workers find new paths in a new economy.
2. This is very different. The robots are better than all of us at all our jobs. We tax the *censored on TexAgs* out of them for and have universal basic income and then figure out what the purpose of life is outside of working.

I'm not sure I buy that robots will ever be better than humans at purely creative tasks like filmmaking and creative writing. There's too much meatsack nuance that robots can't replicate.

How will AI negotiate something like a real estate transaction where human emotion is involved?
They already have AI functioning as therapists. It will do it BETTER than the humans do.
Cromagnum
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GeorgiAg said:

I'm really interested to see what all the influencers, actresses and OF hoes have to start doing now they are gonna have to compete with AI hoes.


All the online attention hoes gonna have a rough time. Once they perfect sexbots with an AI interface, it's ballgame for all hoes.
TarponChaser
How long do you want to ignore this user?
GeorgiAg said:

TarponChaser said:

Malibu said:

Two theories:
1. Agriculture was 90% of employment in 1990. It is now 2%. Secretaries and word processing. Rinse and repeat. Displaced workers find new paths in a new economy.
2. This is very different. The robots are better than all of us at all our jobs. We tax the *censored on TexAgs* out of them for and have universal basic income and then figure out what the purpose of life is outside of working.

I'm not sure I buy that robots will ever be better than humans at purely creative tasks like filmmaking and creative writing. There's too much meatsack nuance that robots can't replicate.

How will AI negotiate something like a real estate transaction where human emotion is involved?
They already have AI functioning as therapists. It will do it BETTER than the humans do.

Unless AI "therapists" act like this they're useless...

Malibu
How long do you want to ignore this user?
Actual negotiations and taste decisions presumably a human will do that. Title review, loan document, notary...AI
 
×
subscribe Verify your student status
See Subscription Benefits
Trial only available to users who have never subscribed or participated in a previous trial.