A.I. - How do we handle this?

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GeorgiAg
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A.I. is coming for many jobs in the service economy and it will touch almost all areas. Many high paying areas will be affected. For now, it will be heralded as a "tool." But having AI, like in the video, will result in the need for fewer and fewer radiologists, maybe even virtually eliminating the position down the road. It's also all over the legal profession and lawyers I know are discussing it.

Also, the film and modeling industry are absolutely toast. And say goodbye to OnlyFans "creators."

Crazy to think about, but how do we handle this revolution?
Chetos
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sorry, but i'm waiting for the texags AI op to post a summary of how this impacts me.
Sharpshooter
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I say let AI be our politicians.
Im Gipper
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Quote:

A.I. is coming for many all jobs in the service economy and it will touch almost all areas. Many Every high paying areas will be affected.

I'm Gipper
Desert Ag
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Chetos said:

sorry, but i'm waiting for the texags AI op to post a summary of how this impacts me.

They need to integrate a Grok button…
Logos Stick
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Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.
Logos Stick
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also, learn to shovel coal?!
Sims
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How do we handle it? Cheer for saved lives and quality of life improvements that will come at a fraction of the cost that decades of experience would present...if the experience generated a postive result at all.
FrioAg 00
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AI will likely impact all roles, but some are far more directly hit than others.

A trained radiologist is an obvious casualty. They are basically identifying patterns within complex image data. Pattern recognition is what AI is best suited for.


I believe other physician roles will likely go through a longer era with AI as a companion in diagnosis and application of evidence based treatment prescription.

The real skill in most physician specialties are listening to the patient, and knowing where to probe. That's pattern recognition too, but the probing questions part is harder for AI and will take longer to develop.
txags92
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Chetos said:

sorry, but i'm waiting for the texags AI op to post a summary of how this impacts me.
If you had been paying attention and reading between the lines you would have already seen that.
Phatbob
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We all shift to the new frontier, what AI can't do: original ideas.


That is where we have the true revolution, where AI takes over the things we already do and know so we can focus on the exploration of the unknown
GeorgiAg
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I would have to think long and hard now about spending all the time effort and money it takes to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.
Hoyt Ag
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Logos Stick said:

also, learn to shovel coal?!
In some aspects, AI already does this. Pretty cool stuff, to be honest.
Malibu
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Two theories:
1. Agriculture was 90% of employment in 1900. It is now 2%. Secretaries and word processing. Rinse and repeat. Displaced workers find new paths in a new economy.
2. This is very different. The robots are better than all of us at all our jobs. We tax the *censored on TexAgs* out of them for and have universal basic income and then figure out what the purpose of life is outside of working.

I'm not sure I buy that robots will ever be better than humans at purely creative tasks like filmmaking and creative writing. There's too much meatsack nuance that robots can't replicate.
Fenrir
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Logos Stick said:

Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.
Given the track record with all the things that were supposed to make healthcare cheaper but didn't, I'm not holding out hope. Someone, somewhere will find a way to add layers to make it worse and more expensive somehow.
FrioAg 00
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My bigger fear are the psych impacts on humanity as AI accelerates productivity (less human effort needed for superior outcomes).

We are wired to strive for productivity increases, but we don't really do well when our goals are achieved and we lose the purpose or struggle. We handle idol time very poorly.

I honestly think technology advances have created the mental health crisis which is accelerating in developed countries.
Jeeper79
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One of my kids is interested in stage acting. It's historically a drastically underpaying job relative to the amount of time and money involved in training for it. But it's also AI proof.

Makes me wonder what kind of shifts we'll see in the future. Especially if we ever have more leisure time as a result of productivity gains.
McNasty
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GeorgiAg said:

I would have to think long and hard now about spending all the time effort and money it takes to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.


Add pharmacist to that list. Seems like lobbying is the only reason they are still employed in large numbers.
Jeeper79
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McNasty said:

GeorgiAg said:

I would have to think long and hard now about spending all the time effort and money it takes to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.


Add pharmacist to that list. Seems like lobbying is the only reason they are still employed in large numbers.
Pharmacy visits are comically slow. If I've got 3 cars in front me, I know I'm in for at least a 30 minute wait to pick up meds that are already prepared. That whole industry is overdue for a shake up.
Iowaggie
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Phatbob said:

We all shift to the new frontier, what AI can't do: original ideas.


That is where we have the true revolution, where AI takes over the things we already do and know so we can focus on the exploration of the unknown


I think that there is a whole generation coming that lacks creativity.

They've been given iPads to look at since they've been able to sit in a grocery cart.

They've never known what is like to not have something to watch on their screen.

They've been given the ultimate homework assistant that all of us would have taken advantage of if given the chance, but we weren't so we either had to do the work or be creative in how it got done.


While artificial intelligence is on the rise, natural intelligence is on the decline.
Aggie Dad 26
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Chetos said:

sorry, but i'm waiting for the texags AI op to post a summary of how this impacts me.


You're talking about "Iraqx" whatever it's name is. Lol
Logos Stick
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Jeeper79 said:

McNasty said:

GeorgiAg said:

I would have to think long and hard now about spending all the time effort and money it takes to become a doctor, lawyer, accountant, etc.


Add pharmacist to that list. Seems like lobbying is the only reason they are still employed in large numbers.
Pharmacy visits are comically slow. If I've got 3 cars in front me, I know I'm in for at least a 30 minute wait to pick up meds that are already prepared. That whole industry is overdue for a shake up.

That's mostly because of insurance processing. As you can imagine, dealing with insurance is a nightmare.
Jeeper79
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We may see a bump in self employment when a person doesn't need a whole team of employees to run their business.
MEEN Ag 05
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Logos Stick said:

Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.
It will make it cheaper on the supply side - but they will charge you the same, or quite possibly more, for the quicker response time and rake in the profits.
LMCane
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why would AI get rid of Only Fans?!
Aggie Dad 26
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Logos Stick said:

Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.


Unfortunately, you're wrong
Pichael Thompson
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Chetos said:

sorry, but i'm waiting for the texags AI op to post a summary of how this impacts me.



Hang tight


I'll ping iraqibot & get him over here for ya
Jeeper79
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LMCane said:

why would AI get rid of Only Fans?!
Only Fans may exist, but all the "girls" will be digital and personalized. And if they don't adjust, they'll be eaten some other company that does.
Malibu
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Jeeper79 said:

LMCane said:

why would AI get rid of Only Fans?!
Only Fans may exist, but all the "girls" will be digital and personalized. And if they don't adjust, they'll be eaten some other company that does.
txags92
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MEEN Ag 05 said:

Logos Stick said:

Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.
It will make it cheaper on the supply side - but they will charge you the same, or quite possibly more, for the quicker response time and rake in the profits.
Healthcare costs are never going down until we create a true market where buyer are able to select care, testing, etc. on a price basis. As long as most people are using insurance that forces them to go through one doctor and gives them a set price they will pay for each service no matter which doctor they go to, there is no incentive for anybody to lower prices.
Bruce Almighty
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We'll either end up like this:



or like this

Iowaggie
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But AI has also provided a lot of great media.




lb3
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Logos Stick said:

Somebody argued with me a while back on this board claiming AI would not impact the medical industry, particularly in the area of image analysis involving Xrays, MRIs, etc... I even posted a study from Stanford several years ago, 2018, where the computers outperformed radiologists. 2018 is like 100 years ago with where we are now with AI.

This will make healthcare cheaper which is a good thing.
AI is detecting things we can't see. The example in the OP is looking at an x-ray image which could easily be done with MRI images as well. But the real power isn't in reading images, it's in giving the AI access to the raw data coming off the MRI prior to processing them into images. That data includes discrete chemical signatures and not just pretty pictures. Alzheimer's for example should be detectable decades before symptoms emerge.
samurai_science
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Well, considering all the medical schools, turning out candidates based on gender and race instead of merits, I say it's a good thing
slaughtr
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For the foreseeable future, I see it as an adjunct, not a replacement. In Radiology and Pathology, it's already being used both before and/or after the physician looks at the images to either highlight something it wants the doc to look at or second read to confirm a diagnosis. This may lead to decreased numbers of people in these specialties, but currently there is a scarcity of these people, so that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Oh, and it definitely won't lead to decreased cost. Most of the cost of Radiology is the "Technical Component"...the cost to produce the image, not the "Professional Component"...the cost to read it.
 
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