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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Less than we've been funding to Harvard.

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The brilliance just flows on tap.

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Reminds me of someone that supported masks, social distancing, closing of schools and commerce, and firing people that refused to inject a bull**** jab mislabeled as a vaccine. Would you be so kind to remind me of those that displayed such brilliance?

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I regret that I only have but one blue star to give. These people have no shame and absolute zero self-awareness.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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More expensive Alcatraz renovation or the military parade on Trump's Birthday?

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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More expensive Alcatraz renovation or the military parade on Trump's Birthday?

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

May, 2024. The hyenas on The View fantasize about which prison Trump might end up in. Whoopi suggests reopening Alcatraz and imprisoning Trump there.

Almost Whoopi. Your President does want to reopen Alcatraz. pic.twitter.com/RovkZ6fKUv

— MAZE (@mazemoore) May 5, 2025

More evidence that Trump is a time-traveller.

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Trump was in Mar-a-Lago at the time; The Independent, an online British newspaper, reported, "WLRN 26 Miami's local PBS affiliate broadcasted Escape from Alcatraz on Saturday at 9 p.m. ET. The movie, which stars Clint Eastwood, was re-aired the following morning at 11 a.m."

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Not sure if the most shocking thing is that Trump gets his ideas from movies on TV or that he watches PBS...

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

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$50M to improve it as a museum. It would take billions to get it up to speed as a maximum security prison.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

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$50M to improve it as a museum. It would take billions to get it up to speed as a maximum security prison.

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Billions huh. How did you arrive at that estimate? Are we putting a fleet of nuclear subs to guard the place?

ADX Florence cost $60MM.

And yes, I understand the $50MM was for the museum part. Also, you may detect a hint of facetiousness in my response above though I think it would be humorous to put the inmates on display for tourists - including opportunities to harrass and humiliate the prisoners.

Build back better and the infrastructure bill disappeared like a fart in the wind dinnit?

Any more shovel ready a project than re-building a federal prison?

Print $7T to poison the planet, float the economy, then poison it again with the countermeasure,

...and now we balking on spending money on a federal prison?

Nice.

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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More expensive Alcatraz renovation or the military parade on Trump's Birthday?

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

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$50M to improve it as a museum. It would take billions to get it up to speed as a maximum security prison.

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Billions huh. How did you arrive at that estimate? Are we putting a fleet of nuclear subs to guard the place?

ADX Florence cost $60MM.

And yes, I understand the $50MM was for the museum part. Also, you may detect a hint of facetiousness in my response above though I think it would be humorous to put the inmates on display for tourists - including opportunities to harrass and humiliate the prisoners.

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Alcatraz was shut down more than six decades ago because it cost too much to run the place (three times what it cost to run other federal prisons). Alcatraz was designated a National Historical Landmark in 1986 and is now run by the National Park Service.

To make the prison operable would require a massive amount of money; there's no access to outside power lines or clean water on the island, facilities have deteriorated from time and saltwater damage, and weather conditions around the island make large-scale renovations difficult.

Alcatraz is already undergoing a $50 million renovation to refurbish the main prison building. Renovation plans include "abatement of hazardous materials in the exterior walls and interior construction areas, repair of concrete spalls, replacement of deteriorated steel reinforcement, strengthening of unreinforced concrete foundation walls, repair and stabilization of exterior windows, and installation of storm windows," according to Tutor Perini, the construction company overseeing the project. Renovations will be complete in 2027. It would take years to turn Alcatraz into a functional federal penitentiary (and large-scale renovations would eat up the millions of dollars in tourist revenue the island generates each year), and California Democrats would likely delay the process in courts.

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There is simply no good reason (beyond Trump thinking it would be neat-o) to spend the hundreds of millions it would take to get Alcatraz to being a functioning maximum security prison, not to mention the additional tens of millions annually to maintain the place. It would be much smarter (and MUCH cheaper) to simply increase capacity at existing federal prisons. But even then the Bureau of Prisons currently has excess capacity as it is, so this is a solution in desperate search of a problem.

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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More expensive Alcatraz renovation or the military parade on Trump's Birthday?

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

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$50M to improve it as a museum. It would take billions to get it up to speed as a maximum security prison.

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Billions huh. How did you arrive at that estimate? Are we putting a fleet of nuclear subs to guard the place?

ADX Florence cost $60MM.

And yes, I understand the $50MM was for the museum part. Also, you may detect a hint of facetiousness in my response above though I think it would be humorous to put the inmates on display for tourists - including opportunities to harrass and humiliate the prisoners.

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Alcatraz was shut down more than six decades ago because it cost too much to run the place (three times what it cost to run other federal prisons). Alcatraz was designated a National Historical Landmark in 1986 and is now run by the National Park Service.

To make the prison operable would require a massive amount of money; there's no access to outside power lines or clean water on the island, facilities have deteriorated from time and saltwater damage, and weather conditions around the island make large-scale renovations difficult.

Alcatraz is already undergoing a $50 million renovation to refurbish the main prison building. Renovation plans include "abatement of hazardous materials in the exterior walls and interior construction areas, repair of concrete spalls, replacement of deteriorated steel reinforcement, strengthening of unreinforced concrete foundation walls, repair and stabilization of exterior windows, and installation of storm windows," according to Tutor Perini, the construction company overseeing the project. Renovations will be complete in 2027. It would take years to turn Alcatraz into a functional federal penitentiary (and large-scale renovations would eat up the millions of dollars in tourist revenue the island generates each year), and California Democrats would likely delay the process in courts.

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There is simply no good reason (beyond Trump thinking it would be neat-o) to spend the hundreds of millions it would take to get Alcatraz to being a functioning maximum security prison, not to mention the additional tens of millions annually to maintain the place. It would be much smarter (and MUCH cheaper) to simply increase capacity at existing federal prisons. But even then the Bureau of Prisons currently has excess capacity as it is, so this is a solution in desperate search of a problem.

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This.

Regardless of whether or not he's trolling or serious, it's a dumb idea.

I have good news, if Trump wants this to happen, it will happen. Instead of giving DOGE money back to taxpayers as nonsensical dividends, we fund this to make a permanent statement that we are a Country of law and order. Period.

Word

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I have good news, if Trump wants this to happen, it will happen. Instead of giving DOGE money back to taxpayers as nonsensical dividends, we fund this to make a permanent statement that we are a Country of law and order. Period.

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No.

Let's keep the dumb, non-sensical, performative nonsense that wastes taxpayer money a Dem thing as much as possible please.

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I have good news, if Trump wants this to happen, it will happen. Instead of giving DOGE money back to taxpayers as nonsensical dividends, we fund this to make a permanent statement that we are a Country of law and order. Period.

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This time just stick them on the island without guards. Watching to see how they get off and survive could be a new reality show.
Pay the homeless with drugs to keep them from getting on shore.

Guess what was on TV in South Florida on Saturday night?

The 1979 Clint Eastwood film "Escape from Alcatraz."

The film aired on WLRN TV, a public station that serves all of South Florida, including West Palm Beach. pic.twitter.com/z2ND7Oz5qP

— Molly Ploofkins (@Mollyploofkins) May 5, 2025

I hope this is exactly what happened...it would be on brand.

He's seriously doing this to make the Dems and MSM chase the red dot on the carpet.

It's just as entertaining to watch.

Next he will have Dems humping wife beating illegal alien gang members like they were a Boston on Pikachu. Or has that already happened.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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So, how much is this vanity project going to cost?

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Exactly. So much for DOGE

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More expensive Alcatraz renovation or the military parade on Trump's Birthday?

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Congress already approved $50MM before Trump was even elected.

I think you keep it open as both a prison and a tourist site. Put in some viewing platforms and let the public come take a gander at our most vile criminals.

And for Trump's birthday parade, it will be good to finally see the military march in a parade that is not BLM or LGBTQI++ focused for a change.

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$50M to improve it as a museum. It would take billions to get it up to speed as a maximum security prison.

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Billions huh. How did you arrive at that estimate? Are we putting a fleet of nuclear subs to guard the place?

ADX Florence cost $60MM.

And yes, I understand the $50MM was for the museum part. Also, you may detect a hint of facetiousness in my response above though I think it would be humorous to put the inmates on display for tourists - including opportunities to harrass and humiliate the prisoners.

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$60M to build from scratch 31 years ago. What's happened to prices of things over the past 31 years?

Alcatraz hasn't been a functional prison in over 60 years and most of the buildings on site are in extreme disrepair and would likely need to be totally torn down and re-built to meet SuperMax status.

As has been said, I'm sure Trump is just trolling here, but if not, this is a really, really stupid idea.

ETA: And I'm sorry, but allowing tourists doesn't seem to be part of the prison business model.

ETAA: ADX Florence has recently closed three wings due to declining population, so there's plenty of room to house the worst of the worst there, without spending a ****ton to...do whatever...to Alcatraz.

I like it. Just hate me for it.

I would pay $10,000 a balloon to launch some urea at these Latin rapist fatherly thugs from Maryland. Alcatraz or my backyard.

But I think we need to get back to shaming the convicted versus the accused.

Not one single witness at today's Bureau of Prisons hearing supported reopening Alcatraz.
Not one. You know why? Because they all know its an idiotic idea lol

Who should be housed in Alcatraz?

— E X X ➠A L E R T S (@ExxAlerts) May 4, 2025

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Not one single witness at today's Bureau of Prisons hearing supported reopening Alcatraz.
Not one. You know why? Because they all know its an idiotic idea lol

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BoP is full of TDS and Deep staters

And they know that a newly reopened Alcatraz would not be run by one of their own promoted based on seniority but a warden picked based on merit, probably from a successful state penitentiary, Alcatraz is a logistical nightmare but it would still be an important symbol of the federal government's commitment to punishing criminals and protecting society. The location and the name have value.

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Who should be housed in Alcatraz?

— E X X ➠A L E R T S (@ExxAlerts) May 4, 2025

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This is consistent with it being both a tourist attraction and prison.

Put the corrupt politicians from all sides in there, have the public mock, ridicule and even sale commemorative tar and feather kits that visitors can through at the disgraced.

MIGA - Making Incarceration Great Again

Trump will never tire of winning.