Signalgate 2.0

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GMaster0
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https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/hegseth-signal-second-chat-yemen-wife-b2736476.html

"Defense secretary Pete Hegseth shared details of an upcoming military strike against the Houthi group in Yemen in a second Signal chat, which included his own wife and brother, according to The New York Times.

The paper says details, including flight schedules for the warplanes involved, were shared in the group chat on March 15."

It gets really hard to show this guy any support when actions like this keep happening. He needs to be let go immediately, grossly irresponsible and under qualified for this job.

jt2hunt
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Something doesn't make sense in this article reporting the information. How would they know these people were in the signal chat and how do they know what is shared in the signal chat?
Prosperdick
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I'll take a thousand compromised SUCCESSFUL missions over one secret clusterf*** like Afghanistan.
2000AgPhD
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I'm gonna give this the old 72 Hour Rule.
Rapier108
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"Anonymous sources..."

Guess it is back to this since nothing else the Democrats have tried has worked.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
lcraggie
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I have no doubt this was assisted by Signal leaking to the press. I wouldn't by surprised if we don't see credit card purchases of Hegseth leaked next and then they will examine each of his TDY receipts. They will find one with alcohol on a dinner and blow it out of portion. The media and deep state will not stop until he leaves because he is effective and has a moral compass. I hope the President stands behind Pete as Sec Def.
Rangers Lead the Way, NSDQ


DarkBrandon01
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More whiskyleaks from the admin's favorite DUI hire
Funky Winkerbean
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"According to the New York Times"

Fake news..
dmart90
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IF this is true, Pete is a f****** moron.
CanyonAg77
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Funky Winkerbean said:

"According to the New York Times"
And failed to include a link to the alleged story in the Slimes
Geminiv
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dmart90 said:

IF this is true, Pete is a f****** moron.


It's not really is fault. I'm gonna assume people here are familiar with the Peter Princple.
Queso1
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When I was a kid and I'd see guys like Ronald Reagan or Casper Weinberger or Margaret Thatcher. Maybe I'm older now, but I saw those as mature rational and responsible adults. I think they were different. The clowns we have now are the same morons we (genx) grew up with.
unimboti nkum
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C'mon, at some point we've all gotten hammered and done something stupid, multiple times
Soso nikinombiki maaki dii.
BTKAG97
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I look forward to Signalgate 426.0. It means **** is getting done.
Old McDonald
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this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers
DamnGood86
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March 15.

What day is today?
You may not be a moron, but some people think you are.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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How would anybody know this if it wasn't leaked by a rat? If it's even true. How about getting some names of these "anonymous sources".

It's easy for these liberal rags to make up crap and just claim it's from an "unnamed source".
Kenneth_2003
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It's a FREE app! Heck I used it for a project we did on the border a few years back. You can download it in the app store.

While the DHS guess and the "former" (I know) Marine that worked for us swore by it... I have real doubts
Ag with kids
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GMaster0 said:

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/hegseth-signal-second-chat-yemen-wife-b2736476.html

"Defense secretary Pete Hegseth shared details of an upcoming military strike against the Houthi group in Yemen in a second Signal chat, which included his own wife and brother, according to The New York Times.

The paper says details, including flight schedules for the warplanes involved, were shared in the group chat on March 15."

It gets really hard to show this guy any support when actions like this keep happening. He needs to be let go immediately, grossly irresponsible and under qualified for this job.


A number of people have been booted out lately.

Perhaps this is sour grapes?
D`Funkaladu`
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Kenneth_2003 said:

It's a FREE app! Heck I used it for a project we did on the border a few years back. You can download it in the app store.

While the DHS guess and the "former" (I know) Marine that worked for us swore by it... I have real doubts


Signal itself is fine. It's secure until you include someone that isn't trustworthy in the chat.
rootube
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If that article is true ole Pete was mad at leaks at the DOD and wanted an FBI investigation but was warned by his own staffers that an investigation would be worse for him than the leakers.
flown-the-coop
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rootube said:

If that article is true ole Pete was mad at leaks at the DOD and wanted an FBI investigation but was warned by his own staffers that an investigation would be worse for him than the leakers.


Absolutely this. Ol' Hot Pistol Pete went full jihadist about leaks and burned himself up in smoking out his enemies.

Or the NYT is reporting unsourced information with ZERO evidence to back it up. Recall the first "occurrence" actually included sourced material from the author's own cell record and was immediately verified.

For what purpose do you suppose Pete is "signaling" his friends about upcoming military operations? Does he strike you as someone completely ignorant on operational security? Because the earlier "incident" was about someone being added to a group that was cabinet level and their designees. Now he is just sending it to family and friends?

But let's stop when you have to say the words "if 'xxx' is true…". That usually always means it is pure fantasy.
rootube
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flown-the-coop said:

rootube said:

If that article is true ole Pete was mad at leaks at the DOD and wanted an FBI investigation but was warned by his own staffers that an investigation would be worse for him than the leakers.


Absolutely this. Ol' Hot Pistol Pete went full jihadist about leaks and burned himself up in smoking out his enemies.

Or the NYT is reporting unsourced information with ZERO evidence to back it up. Recall the first "occurrence" actually included sourced material from the author's own cell record and was immediately verified.

For what purpose do you suppose Pete is "signaling" his friends about upcoming military operations? Does he strike you as someone completely ignorant on operational security? Because the earlier "incident" was about someone being added to a group that was cabinet level and their designees. Now he is just sending it to family and friends?

But let's stop when you have to say the words "if 'xxx' is true…". That usually always means it is pure fantasy.



It may not be true but combined with what has been 100% verified he should probably be fired. At a minimum there should be an investigation. I don't think he a traitor or anything but he's clearly not competent to hold the position he is in based on what has already happened. This is not an oops my bad kind of situation when you are the secretary of defense.
TAMU1990
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He's not going anywhere...
Pumpkinhead
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That article says Hegseth brought his WIFE to the PENTAGON and she sat in two meetings there with UK and NATO military officials where work-related conversations were conducted.

That incident alone right there should be easy enough for any investigation to verify and if verified then I'd fire him. That would be amateurish behavior that presumably nobody else in the Pentagon would be allowed to get away with without getting fired. even putting all the 'SignalGate'' stuff aside. Why you'd ever bring your WIFE to the PENTAGON much less sit in on any meeting would be incomprehensible. WTF incomprehensible.
Pinochet
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D`Funkaladu` said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

It's a FREE app! Heck I used it for a project we did on the border a few years back. You can download it in the app store.

While the DHS guess and the "former" (I know) Marine that worked for us swore by it... I have real doubts


Signal itself is fine. It's secure until you include someone that isn't trustworthy in the chat.

Once again the olds on F16 are proving they don't understand technology. They want to find a boogie man so they'll blame whoever they can without any idea if it even could be true. Signal is E2E encrypted and the keys are not stored anywhere except on your device. The Signal Foundation (yes, it's a nonprofit) can't just read all your chats. That's the point.
Im Gipper
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I'm Gipper
flown-the-coop
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I would take the Pentagon being in complete disarray as confirmation that change is happening.

The entire structure has been corrupted and needs to be dismantled. If Pete winds up being the destructor and blamed for things, fine. Next man up gets to rebuild it and I would be more keen to see what that looks like.

But the spokesman / political garbage reeks of Trump first term nonsense. Digest it with lots of caution and district.
Ag with kids
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Im Gipper said:


People who got fired don't like getting fired and it also pays well to **** on Trump.

That could also be the situation here.
Funky Winkerbean
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Old McDonald said:

this is what happens when you malign competence and experience as "swamp" and substitute it for sycophants and brown nosers
What happened?
Im Gipper
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Ullyot likes Trump. He's not saying anything bad about Trump.

I'm Gipper
Rapier108
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Im Gipper said:


Everything coming out tonight are coordinated releases designed to give the pundits something to meltdown over Monday morning, as well as overwhelm and force him to resign.

100% that all of the "sources" are those who have been fired in the past week for leaking.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Im Gipper
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Did you read the article? The source is Ullyot. He says he was not fired. He's very Pro-Trump.

I'm Gipper
Rapier108
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Im Gipper said:

Did you read the article? The source is Ullyot. He says he was not fired. He's very Pro-Trump.
I was referring to the three people that were fired.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Ag with kids
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Im Gipper said:

Ullyot likes Trump. He's not saying anything bad about Trump.
He's well aware that this could hurt Trump. So, there's that.

But, maybe he doesn't like Hegseth...

And this is a way to try to get rid of him.

I just know that if the media tosses out "unnamed sources" it's generally someone intending to stab at least PART of the Trump administration in the back...

Let's just say I'm automatically skeptical about media stories now...
 
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